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Ham pr disasters 64! …….Prince Charming…Prince Charming…..ridicule is nothing to be scared of ! …..

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jeffgoldblum · 08/11/2026 15:52

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A lack of humour and self reflection is not helping.

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countribution · Today 14:30

Lunde · Today 14:03

What is interesting is that Harry doesn't seem to be automatically deferring to her.

Usually, if she butts into a conversation, Harry backs off - but here she attempts it and Harry keeps talking to Emilio... even though Emilio has to lean way around her to continue the conversation with Harry.

Meghan starts looking looking around at the cameras and starts talking to give the illusion of inclusion - but nobody is playing today - not even Harry! He even looks away when she attempts to give him "the look"

It's all very awkward - clearly nobody wanted her there. I wonder if she was uninvited to speak and they hoped she'd stay home?

The body language looks like Harry is angry with her and that she has no idea what to do when her usual tactics don't work.

100%

He knew how it would play out.

MerryAquaKoala · Today 14:31

IdaGlossop · Today 14:14

The oddest part of M's eight-year silence is that concern for her father, her children and herself didn't spur her on to follow up with the Met. In her situation, you'd want to be able to say 'These were baseless allegations. How dreadful for my father. What a relief I am not the daughter of a child abuser. Thank goodness my children do not have to carry the burden of being the grandchildren of a child abuser.

You would also be fearful that you would be faced with the knowledge that your male parent was a paedophile, and have to make massive adjustments in how you viewed your childhood. That fear would also push you to check what the police were doing, because you would want to know either way.

Instead, she carried the knowledge of the accusation for six years then wrote him a letter assuming his guilt. Now that he has been charged is when she's upset. It makes no sense to me.

Possibly - the met got the crazy letter from a crazy person. It was checked out and 'confirmed' it was in fact a crazy person making crazy allegations. Ham were told and it was ignored therefore. In sum - it was not believed and so they did nothing.

Who knows what happened to motivate her to send him a letter in Dec 2025. And after that is chaos.

She royally (eek) fcked up with her immediate letter when junior shocked everyone in Oct 26, and fckd up whatever plans they had.

Many many unknowns.

DancingFerret · Today 14:33

Mylovelygreendress · Today 13:38

Meghan could not accept the hierarchy . The realisation that she would always be below Catherine was something she couldn’t accept.,

She also couldn't accept being below the late Queen, who she quite clearly regarded as a little old lady to be patronised (few will forget her exaggerated stage bow and sneaky sideways smirk to dim Harry).

IdaGlossop · Today 14:42

Starryfifty · Today 14:28

She was building her brand then. Nothing was going to get in the way. The pair of them have absolutely no regard for anyone else

The timing could not have been worse for her, it's true. But if it had been handled properly in 2019, she wouldn't be in the position she's now. The institution must really regret not looking into her background.

Inevitably, I look at my PR career and think about what HaM could have done differently. In senior roles, I have been privy to a whole range of 'difficult' issues bubbling under the surface that colleagues have told me about so that I can work on a plan for handling them if and when the time comes.

If M had sought advice, the Met would have been followed up, she would be distant from the story, and people would feel compassion for her.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 14:44

DancingFerret · Today 14:33

She also couldn't accept being below the late Queen, who she quite clearly regarded as a little old lady to be patronised (few will forget her exaggerated stage bow and sneaky sideways smirk to dim Harry).

'Collaboration' with HM.

Yes, she really didn't get the HMTLQ and the RF, did she? I watched the queen's funeral and MM looked stunned at the pageantry and marching and public grief - this is the hierarchy we thought our presence has the power to upset?

MargaretThursday · Today 14:44

I've seen videos of her chatting away to no one before, so if you just caught her on camera it looked like she was with someone having a great time.

Is this something younger actresses are taught to do to look like they're involved?

I'd have thought quietly listening with interesting would be better.

Starryfifty · Today 14:45

jeffgoldblum · Today 14:22

Here are some more pictures from Brussels.

Harry looks rough but maybe just a bad photo

TheTenantofGriftersGrange · Today 14:47

They are back in the UK, they are trying to do "service", they want to do social causes stuff, yet they gave up the best platform for doing that, along with the state security they crave and the ability to raise their kids within the royal family. In other words, they are living in the UK trying to do the things they could have done so much more effectively and impactfully if they could have controlled their tetchiness a bit.

Pretty sure Meghan had no interest in doing “service” - charitable works have just been a means for publicity and honing a profile of being an important “good” person. With, probably, a side order of profiteering. Not sure Harry was ever that interested in “service” either, he just didn’t know what else to do, that being the family business and all that.

DancingFerret · Today 14:48

MargaretThursday · Today 14:44

I've seen videos of her chatting away to no one before, so if you just caught her on camera it looked like she was with someone having a great time.

Is this something younger actresses are taught to do to look like they're involved?

I'd have thought quietly listening with interesting would be better.

The funniest (is that the right word?) one was when she was seated alongside Serena Williams's mother at a tennis match.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Wj1h2Cgt8Jc

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Wj1h2Cgt8Jc

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 14:52

IdaGlossop · Today 14:42

The timing could not have been worse for her, it's true. But if it had been handled properly in 2019, she wouldn't be in the position she's now. The institution must really regret not looking into her background.

Inevitably, I look at my PR career and think about what HaM could have done differently. In senior roles, I have been privy to a whole range of 'difficult' issues bubbling under the surface that colleagues have told me about so that I can work on a plan for handling them if and when the time comes.

If M had sought advice, the Met would have been followed up, she would be distant from the story, and people would feel compassion for her.

Edited

We don't know they didn't, which was why PW might have thought that PH should take his time getting to know her and her family.

Edited for meaning

fridaynightzzz · Today 14:55

I heard a clip on the radio with him talking about protecting children from social media, not his own children of course.

chapstickandfibs · Today 14:55

Mondommountain · Today 12:42

@chapstickandfibs I know what you are saying, I felt pity for him because I am leaning towards thinking he didn’t know, I think it has been a massive shock for him.

I would hope she did tell him.

That’s a hell of a thing to keep quiet about and a hell of a thing to carry round on your own.

I’d be more inclined to think the pair of them were sat right on that and the only stuff showing on his face (and her lack of strength or sudden frailty about it all) is because everyone else knows what they were sat on.

They have been so full of shite up to now my sympathy has been eaten by my cynicism.

chapstickandfibs · Today 14:59

Rhaidimiddim · Today 13:49

The shame of her father's crimes indeed isn't hers.

Not alerting authorities herself, not actually following up on what was being done about the investigation into her dad, blaming someone and something else (H and the press) for the breakdown of her relationship with her dad - those behaviours are entirely on her, and I don't think there's any coming back from that.

💯

Perfectly put.

Starryfifty · Today 15:00

chapstickandfibs · Today 14:59

💯

Perfectly put.

They always seem to bounce back though. MSM is not reporting HAM's failures

MerryAquaKoala · Today 15:01

'The institution must really regret not looking into her background.'

There is zero doubt that the authorities / MI5/6 didn't look into her background. It is what they do. The issue is that the RF didn't have any choice except advise Harry to stop / take it slowly. But we all know how that went down.

IdaGlossop · Today 15:02

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 14:52

We don't know they didn't, which was why PW might have thought that PH should take his time getting to know her and her family.

Edited for meaning

Edited

There was a story doing the rounds last week (Rob Shuter, so probably eyewash) that there was no vetting because the MIGS didn't want to upset H or be accused of racism.

If there was vetting, it shows how difficult H must be to manage as he was given permission to marry M despite what must have been uncovered. QEII, according to H: 'Well I suppose I'll have to say yes.'

chapstickandfibs · Today 15:02

Sorry for the delay responding.

I’ve been out getting my winter jabs - where I got accused of not looking frail enough for them…

Seems to be the buzzword this week.

MerryAquaKoala · Today 15:03

IdaGlossop · Today 15:02

There was a story doing the rounds last week (Rob Shuter, so probably eyewash) that there was no vetting because the MIGS didn't want to upset H or be accused of racism.

If there was vetting, it shows how difficult H must be to manage as he was given permission to marry M despite what must have been uncovered. QEII, according to H: 'Well I suppose I'll have to say yes.'

It's a matter of national security. There was vetting.

IdaGlossop · Today 15:04

MerryAquaKoala · Today 15:03

It's a matter of national security. There was vetting.

As a citizen of the UK, I'm relieved.

BigWillyLittleTodger · Today 15:04

Starryfifty · Today 15:00

They always seem to bounce back though. MSM is not reporting HAM's failures

Don’t they just, there’s a saying that after the world has been obliterated by nuclear war, two things will survive, cockroaches and Cher, I think we can add HAM to that list.

MerryAquaKoala · Today 15:06

IdaGlossop · Today 15:04

As a citizen of the UK, I'm relieved.

I suppose it doesn't cover the implications of marrying super trash, with no threat to national security.

MerryAquaKoala · Today 15:06

BigWillyLittleTodger · Today 15:04

Don’t they just, there’s a saying that after the world has been obliterated by nuclear war, two things will survive, cockroaches and Cher, I think we can add HAM to that list.

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Trounlet · Today 15:07

Starryfifty · Today 14:45

Harry looks rough but maybe just a bad photo

And a bad video...he doesn't look well at all. As other have already said if a member of my team looked as unwell as he does today I'd be sending him home.

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 15:07

Starryfifty · Today 14:45

Harry looks rough but maybe just a bad photo

It's November in Britain. Lots of us look rough 😅

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 15:09

chapstickandfibs · Today 15:02

Sorry for the delay responding.

I’ve been out getting my winter jabs - where I got accused of not looking frail enough for them…

Seems to be the buzzword this week.

Frail is a new buzzword.