Ham pr disasters 64! …….Prince Charming…Prince Charming…..ridicule is nothing to be scared of ! …..

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A lack of humour and self reflection is not helping.

The phrase, ‘fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you’ comes to mind

Anyone who invites them to anything more than once is an idiot 😀

I just saw a bit of Harry giving his speech, he looks shattered, I suspect he didn’t know about the allegations, he looks in shock, like someone has died.

Is it true his speech was 3 minutes rather than the 20 minutes it was supposed to be.

Gosh, I actually felt pity for him.

They've been associated with this organisation for a while though.

They've not scored any new gigs in ages.

She may be hurt and upset, but the problem is they have both had "their truth" for so long, it is difficult to believe this is anything different.

I doubt she is hurt and upset, more angry, annoyed and peed off.

HAM would never agree to an ethical audit . Meghan would have to give back the blood diamonds she likes to wear for a start

Never mind the blood diamonds, @Lunde; I suspect there'd be too big a risk of others finding out what income had come in the form or "expenses" from various charities
If H&M allowed the institution access to information like that I'd be most surprised

Apologies in advance for the derail, but if anyone wants or needs to find out more about online harm and suicide prevention for young people, this organisation is doing some excellent work.

https://mollyrosefoundation.org/

I met the founder through a friend. He's an extraordinary person who has used personal tragedy to fuel action.

Earthshot will make them very mad. Live streaming by Amazon Prime to 40 countries in their home language.

I've been thinking about what they have remaining from a PR perspective.

1. Invictus: Pro: not about protecting children Con: needs a sponsor for Birmingham
2. SmartWorks: no signs of activity by M so can probably be left to whither on the vine
3. Sentebale: litigation in the pipeline
4. ANL appeal against Nicklin ruling and costs - decision on permission to appeal awaited
5. BetterUp: senior adviser role to save face for H
6. Scotty's Little Soldiers - tainted by the TMs story
7. Travalyst: occasional speech by H to continue

Sparse pickings. What happens in the longer term seems to me to pivot on whether the marriage continues. Without M, there's a chance that H could make occasional public appearances as a non-working Royal in support of a clutch of charities, but only if he can show he hasn't known about TMs since 2019. His family may not be feeling positive about him but at least there are competent people among them. M has H, Marcus and a totally dysfunctional family.

Not me.

I can’t find pity for him. He felt no pity for what he put his family through.

I feel very little pity for her as she too has caused hurt to others and has not cared about the ramifications of that.

I do feel sorry as it is dreadful news to come to terms with regards her father but the shame isn’t hers and she has not been accused of that.

She was handy enough spreading allegations. Now she will find out what it feels to be on the receiving end - even though it is about her father and not her.

@chapstickandfibs I know what you are saying, I felt pity for him because I am leaning towards thinking he didn’t know, I think it has been a massive shock for him.

A CSA in the family ripples throughout. This will impact the hamlets too. Perhaps this is playing on H's mind? But I really don't think he's deep enough tbh. If this is all a huge shock to him, it should be a deal breaker but he's stuck with his wife and her hideous family

When did Harry move from Chimpo to Senior Adviser in Better up? And does it still pay him as much?

Harry must have known even if not as early as the 2019 letter, he must have known when Meghan had her 2025 letter delivered in public to TM saying she knew he was a child abuser, we just don’t know how long he has known for.

H is an expert in intergenerational trauma, remember. He'll understand all too well about the Hamlets.

If he didn't know, he could leave, and argue for custody of the Hamlets. It's much more difficult if he did know.

If she is indeed 'hurt and upset' why on earth did she make a trip abroad, with media in full attendance, when there's no reason for her to be there? Harry will manage without her hanging out of him. If I was feeling vulnerable the last thing I'd want is to have cameras pointed in my face and journalists shouting questions at me. Especially if I had two young children at home.

If he didn't know, and there is a distinct possibility, then his wife has most likely been lying to him, presuming the information posted in the recent media stories about the letters are true, for that reason alone, he should have cancelled any planned "events" and taken advice to what happens next. People would have understood the cancellations. This is not RF keep calm and carry on, this is Sussex PR sadly.

She has had a LOT of filler inserted into her face since Nottingham. It’s been done quite well actually. There’s no reason for Meghan to be there in Brussels today, and she had every excuse not to be there. She wants these new photos to knock those Nottingham photos off the front page.

Apologies if I'm missrembering but a few years back didn't H say something along the lines that he was concerned about the Wales's childrens upbringing???

If he did that's sounding a bit hollow now.

You're right. I hadn't thought about the December 2025 letter. So he is complicit. Awkward @BigWillyLittleTodger

If by a long shot this is the first he had heard of it he could extract himself from the marriage and gain a smidge of public sympathy, “Meghan let me think all these years it was my fault she had no relationship with her father” but I don’t think he would ever turn on Meghan even if she did let him carry the guilt of the breakdown of their relationship under false pretences.

He's complicit. If (and I don't believe he didn't) know in 2019, he certainly knew in 2025. I'd say he's horrified at the extent of the accusations. His wife will throw him under the bus whether he knew or not. He is where he through his own stupidity, greed and bitterness

Yes he did. Very clearly stated it. The irony

He did. He was concerned about the two spares, and the restrictions of royal life on all three of them.

Edited for clarification

Even something as serious as this, Harry will not leave, if he did so the RF, and especially his brother will be proved right - his ego will not let that happen.

I am as certain as I can be that she will attempt to throw the RF and/ or MIGs under the bus .

He spoke for about 6 minutes, as did all the other speakers. Seems like that was the approximate length of the slot he and the other speakers were given.