Ham pr disasters 64! …….Prince Charming…Prince Charming…..ridicule is nothing to be scared of ! …..

[jeffgoldblum]

A lack of humour and self reflection is not helping.

I'm all done with education topics on this thread, sorry for prolonging 😊 and actually @IcedPurple I think a separate thread re the TM legal case as opposed to what H&M say about it would be suitable as opposed to H&M PR.

I think his next appearance is in Brussels for the Lost Screen Memorial (tomorrow ? ) . & then a speech. It will be interesting to see how actually high profile these are as opposed to high profile in terms of being reported in the UK press.

He managed a chestful of medals though. I would love someone to identify what each of them are.

Thank you for the thread Jeff, 🎖️🎖️🎖️

HaM get coverage for everything. I expect tomorrow will be no different.

They could use the speech to provide some oblique commentary on the TMs situation. I hope for hosting MEP's sake there is an teleprompter so they have sight of the speech before it's delivered, in case HaM have decided to go rogue.

I agree the TMs conversation should be on a separate thread.

Most of the EU bigwigs will be in Dublin for the EU leaders' summit this week so very unlikely they'll be meeting with anyone important.

As ever, the Sussexes have impeccable timing.

I believe, although if incorrect someone will come along to say so, they are his Afghanistan service medal, and the QE jubilee medals which all service personnel received, but Harry as a member of the RF, received all of them, even if he wasn't born for some of the jubilees.

The MEP Antonio López-Istúriz White is hosting them. M will be able to speak Spanish with him. He might even play caballero and kneel before her clutching a sword in tribute to her bravery in the face of adversity.

Come on MN - a laugh emoji - is it too much to ask ? 😂

I agree. I wouldn't put any weight into anything any of the Markles say at this point. None of them, as far as I know, have a very good track record for truth or accuracy.

That's what makes this TMs situation such a damned mess. Those that may know something (M, TMj, SM) can't be relied upon to tell the actual truth. I'm not sure about Doria. She seems to just keep silent rather than speak a lie, just as she's doing (publicly) in this situation.

That’s my understanding too. He has one medal from actually being in the army, and the rest are what I think of as his ‘granny medals’. He also has a ‘granny knighthood’ in the form of a cross which he didn’t appear to be wearing.

AFAIK as far as Jubilee medals goes he's got three
Gold 2002,
Diamond 2012
Platinum.. 2022.

Have to say I've not heard anyone on the military or ex-military side of things criticise the medals, and today he's been getting a tiny bit of praise even from some ex-mil in some places, for doing the decent thing at showing up somewhere yesterday.

It has to be asked: 'Doria, are you silent or are you silenced?'

I suspect the latter. The culprit? Her daughter.

It will be interesting to see if Meghan is there.

"for doing the decent thing at showing up somewhere yesterday".

I would have given him praise had he turned up without publicising the fact in advance and not had photographs appearing in the Sun. Any decency was negated by his other actions.

I think that would be a good idea.

There are aspects that legitimately belong on this thread, by which I mean how the Sussexes deal with the media interest, but details about the TM case would be better elsewhere.

I have a theory. Yesterday, she was briefing that she wasn't going to speak because she was distressed but was going to go to support H. I await more briefing today or early tomorrow to the effect that the news about her father is really taking its toll and that she isn't going.

IMHO, HaM's overall strategy seemed to be as directly disruptive to the RF as possible to pressure KC3 to bring them back in, but then the TMS allegations followed by the FBI arrest put a hard stop to their bolder plans.

H collaborating with the Sun simply shows that H does not learn. There is no upside to letting the media into his life. The Sun is laughing all the way to the bank and will still happily run anti-HaM headlines whenever that is lucrative.

And November 11th is Veterans Day in the USA so I suspect H will be on speed dial to People and Hello to insert himself into that occasion by using the Remembrance pictures as well as the pictures at the EU parliament, to overstate his importance to the US audience. (I suspect most Americans do not even know that the EU has a parliament).

Well despite what many of us think…it seems Harry has scored a pr victory with many people due to his more restrained remembrance appearance…..however what has occurred to me ….he has pretty much completely outed his location to everyone now! 🤷‍♀️

Yet again life conspires to rend asunder the Sussex plans. Previously we have had Covid, the LA fires, deaths of famous people etc . This time it's in her own family. They have the Midas touch in reverse.

The style of his appearance was a step in the right direction. Funny the The Sun knew where he was and when. M and Wace may have things to say...* *

FWIW I still H is a horror (as is AMW), and I hate the PR aspect of yesterday, but at least he got off his backside.and attended an event in person.

I wonder how many of his critics could be bothered?

I agree with innocent until proven guilty. But I'll also say it 'doesn't look good' based on the FBI affidavit filed in court.

As far as the chain of evidence, the lockers in Mexico and RP were entered and 'messed with' by TMj and the press. That evidence is 'potentially contaminated'. But I don't think any of that evidence would be used in the US court proceedings.

According to what I can see in the media and the FBI affidavit TMj 'directed the FBI' to the LA lockers which to me means he didn't 'take them there'. TMj states he never had access to them nor did he ever enter them, with or without his father.

I rented storage for a few months and access was strictly controlled. You had to enter your personal access code to enter the facility and only the renter was assigned a code. There was also CCTV covering the entrance and all the units. If TMj was in those units, the FBI will find that out.

No doubt he will be waffling on - ta dum! ☺️

Oh she’ll be there alright. At this point she’d go to the opening of an envelope! I hear she’s not going to speak, but she’ll bravely be there supporting his nibs, possibly looking pale and emotional. Hopefully she’ll be able to squeeze a solitary tear from her left eye. If we’re really lucky she’ll fall to her knees sobbing, calling out ‘father’ in the style of Douglas Reynholm in the IT crowd.

H wants us to know his location as it bolsters claims for protection.

I agree in PR terms, for once H has got it right. Maybe he has finally been given good advice and actually taken it.

I do wonder if Nottingham was a reality check for H. He suddenly realised he wasn’t anywhere near as popular as he thought.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2026/11/09/meghan-duchess-sussex-child-safety-speech-father-arrest/

The Duchess of Sussex will no longer deliver a planned speech on Tuesday about online child safety as she is “not strong enough” following her father’s arrest.