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[jeffgoldblum]

A lack of humour and self reflection is not helping.

Quite. I'm not responding further, I can feel my IQ plummet reading some posts.

In Terms of sex with minors - California is only introducing a minimum age to get married on 1 January 2027. The legislation was signed at the end of September. Prior to that children could be legally married to adults in California.

I suspect Harry was between a rock and a hard place

As patron of Invictus he needs to show "his support" for military veterans .... yet clearly he didn't get invited anywhere glamorous so he just shuffled off to the nearest small local event.

Clearly MM doesn't support veterans unless there is 5* travel and a dress allowance included.

@Rockyroadminibites To be fair, to my shame, I was being a bit , well greatly , pedantic there. There are certain schools named under the Public Schools Act 1868. ( by which I mean private fee paying schools not state schools) . Others eg Radley aren't "technically" Public Schools but Independent schools. I'm sorry. I just once sat at dinner with a chap who bored the tits off me about this so I remember it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Schools_Act_1868

I'll leave it there 😊💐

As patron of Invictus he needs to show "his support" for military veterans .... yet clearly he didn't get invited anywhere glamorous so he just shuffled off to the nearest small local event.

I suspect there was an element of 'see, you don't need a swanky uniform and half the armed forces present to perform your service of remembrance.'

More apologies for derailing @jeffgoldblum Those anti-university attitudes ('I studied at the University of life' 🤨) now reveal themselves through 'Mickey Mouse' degree comments, and the view that only STEM degrees have any validity.

I did Eng Lit & Lang. . No only STEM counts comments from me. 😂

Anyway back to the point

I only read the Mail. I was put off the Sun as a young teenage girl decades ago because of page 3.

Cambridge didn't use a-level grades in the same way in 1967 - many applicants got the "two Es" offer because Cambridge had it's only application system and set its own entrance exams so you only needed a bare pass if you passed the exam and interview.

Also remember that in 1967 only around 8% of 18 year olds got 2 A level passes - plus A-levels were marked according to a strict norm-referenced quota system unlike today
1967 - 10% got a grade A of those that took A levels got an A
2026 - 28.5% got an A or A*

To put it in prospective, I had a sibling going for medicine in the early 1990s. Her offers varied between ABC and BCC.
Now you'd be looking at A*AA and a good score in the medicine extra exam too.

And grades were even lower when my parents, who are similar age to KC3 went.
Dm was at Oxford and one of her friends got BBC - with the C in the subject she was doing.
Df fought his way to uni from a secondary modern - many of his peers left school as soon as they turned 16, before they did any exams.

My BiL’s older brother (who inherited a big estate) had some sort of feudal right to go to Cambridge irrespective of exams and tests. He didn’t take up the option, he went to Cirencester Agricultural College instead.

I’d be interested to know the number of Oxbridge successes from Gordonstoun back then. I bet much lower than my own school where the Oxbridge group were treated like Gods and thoroughly coached.
So Charles was probably at a disadvantage anyway.

Then when he went there he was dragged out to go and do Prince of Walesy stuff by being sent to Aberystwyth uni for a term to learn Welsh - never mind his studies at Cambridge eh, or if he was leaving a girlfriend behind. I don’t think he had a good time there at all, isolated, lots of anti English politics etc.

Was it Horses who was so determined Prince George should have been pulled out of school to attend Remembrance events? British public schools supplied many young men who died - Cheltenham College has a big memorial with a long list of names. I’ve no doubt plenty of Etonians died and they will have had a special service in. Halle on Sunday. Thank goodness his childhood and education are protected.

King Charles III attended Aberystwyth University (then known as the University College of Wales, Aberystwyth) for one term in 1969. 1, 2]

• Reason for attending: He spent about nine to ten weeks there to learn the Welsh language, history, and culture in preparation for his official investiture as the Prince of Wales at Caernarfon Castle later that year. 1, 2, 3, 4]
• Tutor: He was famously taught Welsh by the nationalist lecturer and Welsh Language Society figure Dr. Edward Millward. 1]
• Primary degree: His main university education was at Trinity College, Cambridge, where he completed his degree in history, seconding to Aberystwyth during a break from Cambridge. 1, 2, 3]

Ditto, although I did my A levels at a highly regarded former grammar which had become comprehensive. I didn't realise it at the time, but I was playing the system by leaving the comprehensive where I had done my O levels because it was starting up its sixth form and I didn't want to be a guinea pig.

This is meant to be the PR thread.

MN is full of threads for general chatting - it fills up so quickly as it is.

Most definitely no combovers! Who do they think they’re fooling?😂

As for KC, when he was much younger he had a polo body and dark hair and, while not handsome by conventional standards, he had a certain style and charm.

Nowadays he’s endearing, I think.

The boys had the advantage of height and in their youth were genuinely attractive, particularly William who had his mother’s looks. It must be galling for both of them to lose their hair, admittedly, but I don’t think it makes them unattractive…as long as they don’t start to look the worse for wear in terms of health and fitness. H has looked seedy for a while now.

I have a vision of jeffgoldlum putting these filled up threads in the spare room, and the room being packed floor to ceiling!😂

I do hope it’s not really like that, Jeff!

Celebitchy is a cesspit for the conspiracy theories and fantasies of the Sussex Squad standom,

It was the place that pushed the lurid anti-William stories during the "Where's Kate" period 🙄🙄🙄

Interestingly the two girls who got into the super selective grammar from my primary school both left school at 16 after O-levels and never did A levels or Uni.

Yes the higher education chat is going on a bit.

I don’t think that’s the relevant statute.

The same confusion occurred when the news story was centred in the Philippines. There appeared to be a grey area because the age of consent was 12 until just after the pandemic.

But just as the Philippines introduced protection for minors against sexual abuse & exploitation in the early nineties, so did the USA in 1978.

Whatever the age of consent was, the creation or possession of sexually graphic images of a minor (under 18) has been illegal for a significant length of time.

Thanks for the apologies @BasiliskStare and. @IdaGlossop…because I didn’t want to nag …I admit that because this topic is of no interest to me and not relevant to the thread…and apparently seems to cause some bad feelings…..I have been off reading elsewhere, periodically checking and will return later.

That is interesting because it shows the risks of separating children into different schools at 11. Usually, we talk about pupils not having the chance to fulfil their potential because they didn't pass the 11+. Your example shows something quite different: that the academic route shouldn't be assumed for bright pupils - even royal ones!

Typo

Thank you. The education discussion is tedious and completely off topic now.

Also, what would anyone else think of keeping the discussion about the Thomas Markle case to a different thread? I don't think it's really appropriate here except insofar as it directly relates to Harry and Meghan.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/royals/articles/meghan-markle-sudden-us-exit-083444868.html

Knuckles rapped, rightly, I'm back on task thinking about HaM PR strategy in the wake of Thomas Markle's arrest.

The sensible strategy for M is to go underground, which some media commentators are saying she will do. It's more difficult for H, back on home turf. While we can be fairly certain that M hid what she knew (her recent statement could contain lies), the same is not the case for H. Can he carry on making solo appearances without saying something about M's absence? Or is that for her to explain?

If M is found to be implicated in the TMs case (eg by collaborating with TMj) is there a legal route for KCIII to keep the children in the UK so they have continuity in their schooling eg as wards of court, with Harry as parent-in-charge day-to-day?

I completely agree.

TM isn't part of their PR, and there are other threads about it.

I feel there is a big difference between talking about the PR that they choose to do and talking about the family actions which they have no control over.