Ham pr disasters 40! ..the 40 by 40 anniversary edition!

[jeffgoldblum]

Still interested, still not bored!

I’ve done this too to get out of my DH work things, or to escape from them early. We don’t have a nanny though. Sadly they are too old for that now.(not pretending they are ill though, just lack of babysitter normally)

@jeffgoldblum Don't let them chase you away. Just woke up and saw the post removals!

Neil Sean, who has been right quite a bit recently, posted a really obscure video last night implying that something big is coming up for HAM. He is careful to avoid being sued but it was thought - provoking.

Also, last week I posted links about HAM to articles by The Hill reporter Mark Toth dating back to 2024 linking HAM to UK destabilizing. Over the past years, I've thought he was right. Google his name and Prince Harry to read them.

When I saw the scene online where Diana told CS that KC was in love with his valet, I almost died laughing. Both Diana and CS were deranged!

Also, you can watch Fox News on YouTube. I don't - I think they are very biased but that's me.

Yes. Could be due to terrible optics at last Ingriftus, she decided it best she stays away. However, HAM never usually do what's best for anyone/anything else but each other

The Duchies do (own much of the UK). The Monarch and Heir benefit from the yield, but don't control the source

The exact details of how the Duchies are owned always fry my brain, @Rhaidimiddim - not least because the RF deliberately keep them opaque - but it's said that William's selling 20% of the Duchy of Cornwall for housing and I'm not sure how this chimes with claims that the RF can't sell the actual assets?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8pg8ryjkzo

Very clever 😆

curtseys

Tea always solves a lot, jeff, but please don't let the snipers disillusion you.
I'm another who'd sorely miss your posts and frankly you'd be a huge loss to the forum if we didn't have you any more

Any property transactions over £500k value have to be approved by the Treasury. There is also legislation to ensure that such changes must be to the long-term benefit of the Duchy (as it is to provide an income for future heirs).

The proceeds of any capital transaction do not go to the Duke of Cornwall but back into the Duchy.

The Duke of Cornwall receives an income from the profit each year.

The thing is, more than one billionaire can be working to control us at the same time. They can even do similar things for very different reasons.

Destabilisation is an opportunity to them, the idea that the common people have the right to decide for themselves or to not be the playthings of their grand world desires just isn't something that occurs to them.

You simply can't be a good person and be a billionaire. It's not possible, because it means deciding that retaining your billions is more important than redistributing your vastly excessive resources to those who are less fortunate and STILL be a hundred-millionaire.

The only exception, bizarrely, is the royal family - because they're in a weird gilded cage where they exchange freedom for luxury. I don't know if it justifies them being billionaires, but it is, to a degree, a necessary part of the contract, and the impression given to others.

I'm not even sure how being involved in Invictus can be said to be a positive any more, AngelineFibres, but maybe they see it differently

It's absolutely not my world, but I have to say I'm disappointed and thought more of military integrity than that

You simply can't be a good person and be a billionaire. It's not possible, because it means deciding that retaining your billions is more important than redistributing your vastly excessive resources to those who are less fortunate and STILL be a hundred-millionaire.

Some do redistribute billions to ‘good causes’ but that can be much worse than simply indulging in yachts and eating gold-plated truffle. Their ‘good cause’ will be imposing their morality/ideology/crackpot ideas on the rest of us.

It’s slightly faffy but I copy text which means the whole thing copies then delete all but then it I wanted to quote.

I'm not sure how any official military involvement was decreed last night but remember for them it's case of honouring the event/office/veterans, not H..

There's an old saying in the mil that you were "saluting the rank, not the individual" and I think that would have applied here.

Serving military ordered to have attended would have held their collective noses and got on with it....

Why though? Why do you think these billionaires need to "control us" ?

The reason well known donors donate are known. The Kochs donated because they wanted a pro low tax guv. Adelson was a pro Israel conservative. Soros pro social justice. Gates anti malaria and disease. Theil has some strange Christian Nationalism going on.

Who are these billionaires who want to destroy the Royals ? It's not as if Republicans need to hide in the dark. And how can anyone get control over everyone by stirring up the Royals ?

I'm going to stick my neck out and say something which may be unpopular. CS's book hasn't been published yet. There has been ( thus far I have seen , there maybe more ) one excerpt in the DM who are of course for commercial reasons going to publish the more salacious bits. I do think though before anyone has actually read the whole it's a bit premature to give an opinion on it ( the text - suspected motives behind it fair play ) So eg the DM headline was Diana said KC had an affair with his valet. Even in the same paragraph CS said that sounded unbelievable (paraphrase ) . Now , do I think the motives behind this book are mercenary , shoddy yes - do I think there is going to be a great deal of CS recollections which either can't be proven or don't fall under libel etc - yes . I don't think the book can be dismissed as vile until the entirety of it is known. I'm not saying it won't be. It doesn't look good thus far 😂 But re the actual text itself , I'm reserving judgment until I have read the whole thing which puts the headline fodder in context.

Basilisk(boring)Stare 😎

Earl Spencer does seem to like hanging out his family's dirty laundry doesn't he ? He's no gentleman for sure.

Well, quite. There's something fundamental to the fact that by choosing your causes, you are choosing - and often controlling - how the money is spent. Working in the charity sector infuriates me, with millionaires and billionaires setting all sorts of hoops and conditions to spending.

Let alone the exploitation required to become a billionaire in the first place!

Yes! The Spencers had massive problems. Diana's disorders were there before marriage. However, they were incredibly elitist as a family - and still are. Diana used to refer to her in laws as "the Germans" and would frequently remind them that her lineage was longer and better.

Supposing one of his wives or children wrote a nasty book about him? I'm sure that they could.

Yes, it's a really odd anecdote to include, I've now seen that he's claimed the Queen (via Robert Fellowes) offered to reinstate Diana's HRH on the day of the funeral.

Again, another pretty unbelievable statement, that neither now Fellowes or the Queen can confirm. I do find it highly unlikely, as it was Charles who drove for Diana to get a State style funeral, and the late Queen has never, to my knowledge, done that kind of performative display.

Charles Spencer may find this book blows up his whole credibility. I've seen several quotes from people who have known him for years and years, saying he never mentioned anything like this at all previously, never even hinted at anything similar.

This could be like Spare imploding on HaM, on steroids.

I suspect more likely to be one glass of wine too many!

Warmest thanks, bluegreygreen; I might have known you'd have both the details and the skill to put them so clearly

I wonder if some of Spencer's own issues are at the root of this. He's on marriage no4, not invited to the weddings of two of his daughters, who knows.
He's not exactly been a great husband and Dad.

Yet more appreciation from me for someone who's genuinely in a position to know, notimagain

The point about honouring the rank rather than the person makes perfect sense, but it's certainly not how Harry will regard it and I still think the services would do better to take a big step backwards from this farce - especially when other military charities are available

I agree. He looked broken.