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Harry and Meghan have removed Archie and Lilibet from school after two days

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MinnieMounjaro · Yesterday 20:41

Breaking news in the Daily Mail. Duke and Duchess of Sussex's children 'removed from school after two days' mol.im/a/16130877 via https://dailym.ai/android

I do wonder if there is actually any school that will be able to meet their expectations in regard to security. I'm interested to see how it all plays out.

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IcedPurple · Today 16:07

ilovemykindle · Today 15:58

I live in a 'blink and miss it' town in the middle of nowhere. Everyone knows to avoid the area around the school near to the town centre between the starting times and finishing times. I sure it will be worse at a school in the middle of a city.
Giving the security the benefit of doubt maybe they didn't have the chance to see what the traffic was like during school holidays.

Surely a major part of a 'security team's' job is to assess routes and travel times in advance? And you'd hardly need to be a genius to work out that travel time is going to be a lot longer during school drop off times than out of term. Seems pretty basic.

If I was supposedly paranoid about my children's security and was paying these people a lot of money to ensure that, I'd not be inclined to 'give them the benefit of the doubt'. However, I highly suspect this is all theatre designed to try to force taxpayers to pay for the Sussexes' security. A bit like the farcical New York 'car chase' a few years ago.

incrediblyincredible · Today 16:10

Can’t they just put them in breakfast and after school club, it’s dead at my kids schools then 😁

incrediblyincredible · Today 16:11

Also what kind of security are they requesting? 4 guards surrounding each kid?

DaftBerkCanGoFHimself · Today 16:12

I have to say that as a tax payer I resent every penny spent on the royal family.

bluegreygreen · Today 16:13

Probably unsurprisingly, this story of Catherine driving her own car on the school run and sitting in traffic is doing the rounds on the internet

Archive link https://archive.is/oKx9E

Arjan · Today 16:14

IcedPurple · Today 15:31

I know he used to bring his American security 'team' over when he was here for short visits, but surely that can't be true now that he's supposedly moving here long term? Presumably they all have families in California and can't just up and leave them. Also, they wouldn't be licensed to work in England. Americans can't just move to Britain and work, especially not as bodyguards. Surely they have engaged local security guards? Mind you, nothing the Sussexes do makes any sense so who knows?

He uses Chris Sanchez’s security organisation, Torchstone Global, and they have an office in London also and offer services throughout Europe.

And his buddy, currently the most recognisable bodyguard in the world LOL, is David Langdown who is British and possibly happy to be returning home.

Harry and his family are set with their elite private security team, he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it anymore, hence trying to manipulate the government into using tax payer money to cover it.

if the school run farce is genuine, then Chris Sanchez has totally failed his principal and his family, nothing to do with Ravec, the RF, the Establishment et al.

ANNotherWriter · Today 16:19

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 15:54

If Harry had a brain, he'd ignore the media and hire a good PR/branding firm to run Meghan's Instagram account and a good office team to make public statements for him/them. Ditto for Meghan's As Ever thing. He'd avoid any "personal" photos (e.g. "private" moments of family Sunday jaunts on Instagram) and have very occasional formal, posed pics of him, Megs and the kids, and just get on with his life and interest.

But he doesn't have a brain, and neither does Meghan. If they did, they would be working royals using that platform to do good, impactful work and the kids would be running around the gardens of palaces.

There are zillions of tedious celebrities/influencers posting the exact same tat as them. It's really not interesting.

Edit typo.

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I agree with 90% of this but not the occasional formal photos. why?
No one really cares about seeing photos of his kids.

They are here as private individuals not Royals doing a job for the firm.

Given he's terrified for his kids' safety the less we see of them the better. Surely?

KilkennyCats · Today 16:21

DaftBerkCanGoFHimself · Today 16:03

Get your facts right before posting. Honestly. The Megan bashing does really smack of racism to me. Or envy. And at least read the article properly in that ‘newspaper’

It wasn’t that the school didn’t meet their expectations it’s that with the heavier traffic the security detail couldn’t keep the cars together leaving them vulnerable. It was a decision made based on their security’s advice.

Seriously? Racism or envy? Because those two things are so alike.
Behave yourself 🙄

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 16:21

Arjan · Today 16:14

He uses Chris Sanchez’s security organisation, Torchstone Global, and they have an office in London also and offer services throughout Europe.

And his buddy, currently the most recognisable bodyguard in the world LOL, is David Langdown who is British and possibly happy to be returning home.

Harry and his family are set with their elite private security team, he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it anymore, hence trying to manipulate the government into using tax payer money to cover it.

if the school run farce is genuine, then Chris Sanchez has totally failed his principal and his family, nothing to do with Ravec, the RF, the Establishment et al.

"Harry and his family are set with their elite private security team, he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it anymore, hence trying to manipulate the government into using tax payer money to cover it."

I don't think his problem is that he can't pay - he's even offered to pay himself for state security. His problem is that in the UK - unlike the US and most of the countries he has visited - private security is not permitted to carry firearms. Only state security can carry firearms.

In my opinion, part of his problem is a wildly exaggerated security concern, but mostly he's trying to use the provision of state security to somehow show that he still has the status of working royal. But that will never be the case, even if he were granted 24/7 state security.

As I just said on one of the other threads, I don't care if he gets the same kind of bespoke state security he had when he lived in the US and only visited the UK. I don't see any problem with that. Perhaps RAVEC should call his bluff and give him extra security cover now he's in the UK. He will then have to shut up about security and accept that having state security still doesn't make him a working royal.

Williaminagingerwig · Today 16:22

KilkennyCats · Today 16:21

Seriously? Racism or envy? Because those two things are so alike.
Behave yourself 🙄

😂😂 indistinguishable!

Arjan · Today 16:23

The infamous NYC car chase, where their security detail decided to transfer the 3 of them into the back seat of a yellow cab, all squashed in beside each other, with a poor unsuspecting taxi driver, who could have been anyone.

I mean, what a farce.

MurphysColeslaw · Today 16:23

I don’t believe the school run thing is genuine.
There is just no way a member if an elite protection agency would make such a school boy error (no pun intended) 😘

Fondmemories · Today 16:23

ANNotherWriter · Today 16:19

I agree with 90% of this but not the occasional formal photos. why?
No one really cares about seeing photos of his kids.

They are here as private individuals not Royals doing a job for the firm.

Given he's terrified for his kids' safety the less we see of them the better. Surely?

We don't see Zara and Mike posting on instagram constantly about their family activities do we? Or Peter? Sophie and Edward didn't do that either when their kids were younger. Even the York girls only post occasionally. M and H behave like the whole world is fascinated by them. The only way they can drum up actual interest is to create drama and conflict everywhere, which is why they do it.

aCatCalledFawkes · Today 16:24

Autonomouse · Today 15:27

don't know their California setup, but I'm guessing that the winding backstreets of Oxford present a different logistical challenge!

I'm not familiar with the back streets of Oxford ( or any roads in the vicinity of Montecito) either!
Maybe someone could enlighten me, but the last thing I read about M & H's paid- by -them security detail, he had brought them with him from the US?
Not that that excuses them from not proactively studying the logistics of getting their protectees safely to school, under any and all circumstances.

I have lived in and around Oxford all my life, I take the bus or the train into the city when I have to go. Not a chance I would drive in.

MurphysColeslaw · Today 16:24

I don’t know how that kiss emoji ended up there . Please ignore .

Wishesandhorses · Today 16:24

MurphysColeslaw · Today 16:23

I don’t believe the school run thing is genuine.
There is just no way a member if an elite protection agency would make such a school boy error (no pun intended) 😘

Agree.

I have serious trouble imagining even the shoddiest protection agency wouldn't have thought of 'do a dummy run first' and thought 'what might the traffic be like?'

wordler · Today 16:25

Arjan · Today 16:14

He uses Chris Sanchez’s security organisation, Torchstone Global, and they have an office in London also and offer services throughout Europe.

And his buddy, currently the most recognisable bodyguard in the world LOL, is David Langdown who is British and possibly happy to be returning home.

Harry and his family are set with their elite private security team, he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it anymore, hence trying to manipulate the government into using tax payer money to cover it.

if the school run farce is genuine, then Chris Sanchez has totally failed his principal and his family, nothing to do with Ravec, the RF, the Establishment et al.

If it’s the same security team that they has in Nee York during the ‘near catastrophic car chase’ then they are definitely incompetent.

That was the time they took their principals out of a blacked out SUV driven by their own security team and put them into a random, unvetted yellow cab on their own in the MIDDLE of said chase.

The only explanations both scenarios is either:

They’ve hired the worst security team ever

They are being given good advise but are ignoring it

There is no real danger and they and their team know it and these are manufactured drama scenarios

Arjan · Today 16:26

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 16:21

"Harry and his family are set with their elite private security team, he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it anymore, hence trying to manipulate the government into using tax payer money to cover it."

I don't think his problem is that he can't pay - he's even offered to pay himself for state security. His problem is that in the UK - unlike the US and most of the countries he has visited - private security is not permitted to carry firearms. Only state security can carry firearms.

In my opinion, part of his problem is a wildly exaggerated security concern, but mostly he's trying to use the provision of state security to somehow show that he still has the status of working royal. But that will never be the case, even if he were granted 24/7 state security.

As I just said on one of the other threads, I don't care if he gets the same kind of bespoke state security he had when he lived in the US and only visited the UK. I don't see any problem with that. Perhaps RAVEC should call his bluff and give him extra security cover now he's in the UK. He will then have to shut up about security and accept that having state security still doesn't make him a working royal.

I think the whole armed security demand is a red herring, he knows he is not allowed pay for it, so if he does get it it allows him relieve himself of the burden of having to pay for private security like every other high profile family in the UK.

Wishesandhorses · Today 16:27

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 16:21

"Harry and his family are set with their elite private security team, he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it anymore, hence trying to manipulate the government into using tax payer money to cover it."

I don't think his problem is that he can't pay - he's even offered to pay himself for state security. His problem is that in the UK - unlike the US and most of the countries he has visited - private security is not permitted to carry firearms. Only state security can carry firearms.

In my opinion, part of his problem is a wildly exaggerated security concern, but mostly he's trying to use the provision of state security to somehow show that he still has the status of working royal. But that will never be the case, even if he were granted 24/7 state security.

As I just said on one of the other threads, I don't care if he gets the same kind of bespoke state security he had when he lived in the US and only visited the UK. I don't see any problem with that. Perhaps RAVEC should call his bluff and give him extra security cover now he's in the UK. He will then have to shut up about security and accept that having state security still doesn't make him a working royal.

It's all getting a bit Michael Jackson really.

Fgs, employ a bloody governess if security is such an issue and there really is not one of the quiet private schools tucked away on private estates who will take the kids?

I don't blame them if they won't really - not because of the poor kids, but would you want to be the class teacher dealing with that family's dramas on a daily basis?

IcedPurple · Today 16:28

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 16:21

"Harry and his family are set with their elite private security team, he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it anymore, hence trying to manipulate the government into using tax payer money to cover it."

I don't think his problem is that he can't pay - he's even offered to pay himself for state security. His problem is that in the UK - unlike the US and most of the countries he has visited - private security is not permitted to carry firearms. Only state security can carry firearms.

In my opinion, part of his problem is a wildly exaggerated security concern, but mostly he's trying to use the provision of state security to somehow show that he still has the status of working royal. But that will never be the case, even if he were granted 24/7 state security.

As I just said on one of the other threads, I don't care if he gets the same kind of bespoke state security he had when he lived in the US and only visited the UK. I don't see any problem with that. Perhaps RAVEC should call his bluff and give him extra security cover now he's in the UK. He will then have to shut up about security and accept that having state security still doesn't make him a working royal.

I don't think his problem is that he can't pay - he's even offered to pay himself for state security.

RAVEC have said that he did not in fact 'offer to pay'.

His problem is that in the UK - unlike the US and most of the countries he has visited - private security is not permitted to carry firearms. Only state security can carry firearms.

No, I don't think that's his problem. Yes, his American security can carry guns, but only on the same terms as any citizen in California. They don't have any special privileges, nor do they have access to intelligence, which Harry claims is necessary because he's so terribly important.

Harry's problem is a) he's tight fisted and doesn't want to pay and b) he can't accept that he is no longer a senior royal and does not play any role in the life of the nation. But he's going to have to get used to it.

. Perhaps RAVEC should call his bluff and give him extra security cover now he's in the UK.

Ravec should provide security if, and only if, the intelligence warrants it. Not as some sort of game. We're talking millions of pounds of taxpayer money here.

CoventryCity · Today 16:30

Arjan · Today 16:14

He uses Chris Sanchez’s security organisation, Torchstone Global, and they have an office in London also and offer services throughout Europe.

And his buddy, currently the most recognisable bodyguard in the world LOL, is David Langdown who is British and possibly happy to be returning home.

Harry and his family are set with their elite private security team, he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it anymore, hence trying to manipulate the government into using tax payer money to cover it.

if the school run farce is genuine, then Chris Sanchez has totally failed his principal and his family, nothing to do with Ravec, the RF, the Establishment et al.

ofc it is not genuine. this is ham stitching up their own team , making them look as if they have fcked up. As if the security team would have fcked up. ham have dropped them in it, and are 'blaming' them for their own motives - to try an get funding. So using their own kids and putting others in the shit (not for the first time) for their own (attempted) gain. Grotesque couple.

wordler · Today 16:30

There’s also absolutely no need for their children to be sent in a three car convoy on the school run - absolutely ridiculous.

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 16:30

ANNotherWriter · Today 16:19

I agree with 90% of this but not the occasional formal photos. why?
No one really cares about seeing photos of his kids.

They are here as private individuals not Royals doing a job for the firm.

Given he's terrified for his kids' safety the less we see of them the better. Surely?

I don't necessarily think they should show the kids, but that would be better than these wannabe-mysterious photos when you only see the back of the kids' heads or they have an emoji planted over their face. I was trying to think of a better way of doing what they're currently doing, if they really want to show the kids.

I don't care about seeing the kids either and think this back of head / emoji face attempt to be "mysterious" and "private" actually makes things worse for the kids.

Autonomouse · Today 16:30

They'd also have to leave their guns at home.

LaMarschallin · Today 16:31

IAmATorturedPoet · Today 15:55

Every time I read the word convoy, I hear this (my dad liked it!) …… breaker, breaker 😂

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss&ra=m

It was a dark like the dawn
On that schoolday morn
And the traffic was proving a shock (derr!)
We thought we'd soon there
When a Smokey Bear
Pulled us over and said
"That a Glock?
(Sir)...

You can't arm your convoy,
Not British to make a fuss,
Put that Glock away in its box, oy!
Have you thought about the walking bus?

(No) Convoy....

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