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Ham pr disasters 37! Will the blame remain in abeyance too?

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jeffgoldblum · 10/09/2026 19:45

Continuing the discussion, still interested, still not bored!

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BasiliskStare · 12/09/2026 20:06

Oh FFS @jeffgoldblum - not you I hasten to add - them. I wonder if they have actually contributed any money towards a suitable charity from Archewell . & BTW were they not here settling in the children on Friday. ? This is not just disaster tourism , it's spouting platitudes online disaster tourism with a cut and paste photo from God knows when . Or have I misunderstood? 😊 Please someone tell me I have .

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AlexandraCarrington · 12/09/2026 20:08

She never went to school though.

She and Margaret were of the generation whose secondary education was messed up by the war. So they had that in common with everyone else.

And many upper middle and upper class girls didn't go to school, or only for a couple of years to be 'finished' or abroad to learn French or German.

Notmybestusername · 12/09/2026 20:09

Consider for a moment the camera angle speaks a thousand more words than the platitudes above. The wreath is shot out of focus and from the wrong side. What's in focus and front facing is the earnest couple with their nearest sympathyish-adjacent expressions.

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:09

3 days too late! , obligatory picture of them attempting to look as if they care! 🙄

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OlympicWomen · 12/09/2026 20:12

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:09

3 days too late! , obligatory picture of them attempting to look as if they care! 🙄

True 🤨 so fake

OlympicWomen · 12/09/2026 20:13

AlexandraCarrington · 12/09/2026 20:08

She never went to school though.

She and Margaret were of the generation whose secondary education was messed up by the war. So they had that in common with everyone else.

And many upper middle and upper class girls didn't go to school, or only for a couple of years to be 'finished' or abroad to learn French or German.

Yeah, my point is in agreement with the statement about George having the most normal, regular upbringing of any monarch. Not what was the case for the late Queen. Although she did have a loving family, it's true.

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:14

OlympicWomen · 12/09/2026 20:12

True 🤨 so fake

Suspiciously also released after the article indicating they intend to ignore the king and stick their beaks , where they don’t belong.

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Notmybestusername · 12/09/2026 20:14

Compare and contrast the officials, royals and various dignitaries that pay respects at our cenotaph or war memorials for want of an equivalent. Shot from an ascribed press box, the person in question bowing/kneeling/lowers body language and usually photographed side-on or angle to the back and focusing on the task in hand/due reverence etc, respects paid, poppies placed etc.

RemainInAbeyance · 12/09/2026 20:16

Whilst I know this is all good natured, can we please try and stay on topic - there are lots of other threads - I do get it meanders but we are quick to pull bad faith actors back and this thread moves so fast with the Hams

OlympicWomen · 12/09/2026 20:16

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:14

Suspiciously also released after the article indicating they intend to ignore the king and stick their beaks , where they don’t belong.

... but of course.
This is where it shows - that image is all about them, not the tragedy of 9/11.
For working royals, their focus is on others.

TheRealHousewife · 12/09/2026 20:16

KatherineParr · 12/09/2026 17:32

They were only very briefly fully compliant with the Sandringham Agreement but there's a bit of a difference between them stepping over the boundaries and just flat out saying 'we're not going to comply any more'. I agree with @MrsLeonFarrell if they push this any further the titles will end up removed. It feels like they're spiralling to be honest.

The Nolan principles aren't quite as the article has portrayed them. I've pasted the Nolan principles below so we can see what Harry and Meghan are stepping back from:

Selflessness: Acting solely in the public interest.
Integrity: Avoiding outside obligations that could influence official duties.
Objectivity: Making decisions on merit and evidence.
Accountability: Remaining accountable to the public and subject to scrutiny.
Openness: Acting transparently and providing reasons for decisions.
Honesty: Remaining truthful in all duties.
Leadership: Promoting and exhibiting these values through personal behaviour

Thank you for the clarification 👍

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:17

OlympicWomen · 12/09/2026 20:16

... but of course.
This is where it shows - that image is all about them, not the tragedy of 9/11.
For working royals, their focus is on others.

I see we are thinking along the same lines!

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OlympicWomen · 12/09/2026 20:18

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:17

I see we are thinking along the same lines!

👏🏼 👏🏼

Notmybestusername · 12/09/2026 20:19

The lighting on H and M looks different.

I might be over thinking this almost certainly , but you know those rom-com dvd covers of yore (pick anything with Jennifer Aniston or Reese Witherspoon for example) and they are photoshopped into the same frame with the film's male protagonist - despite it being obvious that they are two different photos taken on different days

....it has those vibes.

A kind of layering on effect.

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:22

Notmybestusername · 12/09/2026 20:19

The lighting on H and M looks different.

I might be over thinking this almost certainly , but you know those rom-com dvd covers of yore (pick anything with Jennifer Aniston or Reese Witherspoon for example) and they are photoshopped into the same frame with the film's male protagonist - despite it being obvious that they are two different photos taken on different days

....it has those vibes.

A kind of layering on effect.

Wouldn’t surprise me! , Meghan likes to be the focus in every photo regardless of what it’s supposed to convey and Harry is only her useful accessory to achieving that.

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KilkennyCats · 12/09/2026 20:26

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:01

Well it was only a matter of time! , understandably this has gone down like a cup of cold sick with many Americans.

Archwell is grateful for their sacrifice…. I’m sure that eases the burden of those affected 🤨
Posturing pair of ninnies.

MissMoneyFairy · 12/09/2026 20:26

It would have been better without that awful laughable photo shopped dated photo, their website has paid tributes before but no one else in the RF feels the need to promote themselves like this. What are their advisors or promoters being paid to make them a laughing stock.

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:26

I’m afraid this deluge is only going to continue ladies! And probably at an elevated rate now they are here and not getting their way! , I’m going to have to be prepared to start a new thread at the drop of a hat! 😬

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CathyorClaire · 12/09/2026 20:27

One more point - I would love the MSM to pick up the work done by Rachel the pilot and others. Not because of H per se but it does look like it should be investigated as it appears to have become something it wasn't when set up & the staggering amounts of money involved I think deserve some investigation.

I agree entirely but I think the charity grifts extend far further than Invictus.

I'd love to see the whole lot investigated but given Harold has been pretty astute in his use of various cloaking devices I think it's likely to be like getting blood out of a stone a long drawn out process.

Notmybestusername · 12/09/2026 20:31

Google says that photo is from a 2021 memorial for 9-11.

Rhaidimiddim · 12/09/2026 20:31

SqueakyDinosaur · 12/09/2026 20:01

Many upper class women didn't go to school. None of the Mitford sisters did, for example.

I think education for girls was far more of a middle class preoccupation. My grandmother, born in 1908, went to boarding school but it was very much not the norm, even in their comfortable upper middle class world. Look at the Cazalet Chronicles, too.

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I think that underscores the PP's point - that George got to go to school and make friends, and he and his siblings get to do normal stuff in the everyday world (even if with lots of mobey and bodyguards).

OlympicWomen · 12/09/2026 20:33

Rhaidimiddim · 12/09/2026 20:31

I think that underscores the PP's point - that George got to go to school and make friends, and he and his siblings get to do normal stuff in the everyday world (even if with lots of mobey and bodyguards).

Absolutely.

Lunde · 12/09/2026 20:33

SqueakyDinosaur · 12/09/2026 19:54

"For the first time ever, in the future, we will have a king (George) who has grown up in a functional family, as close to a normal life (of a rich child) as is possible."

I don't entirely agree - I think within the parameters of the era, QEII actually had a properly familial upbringing. I think the early death of her father was an absolute disaster in terms of her ability to be a present and demonstrative mother.

I don't know

QEII
-never got the chance to attend school
-BP had to form a Girl Guide troop with the staff's children to give her an "activity" where she met other children - but clearly not as equals
-I'm not sure that I would have been overly impressed if my 13 year old daughter had claimed to have fallen in love with an 18 year old naval officer nor allowed them to write to each other from the age of 13.
-she maintained the Edwardian traditions of her parents and lived apart from her son Charles for two years to live the carefree expat lifestyle of a naval officer's trailing spouse on Malta between 1949-1951
-I remember Princess Anne talking about her very formal birthday parties that were held in the nursery with the nannies - they had to eat jelly with a dessert fork
-at Christmas you had to be 15 before you joined the family for Christmas dinner at Sandringham - 14 and under ate in the nursery

KittyKokum · 12/09/2026 20:34

First photo I've seen where HAMs fingers aren't slithering all over one another, but instead the restless digits on both their hands are restlessly searching to entwine and grasp themselves ;must have taken a lot of restraint!

OlympicWomen · 12/09/2026 20:34

jeffgoldblum · 12/09/2026 20:26

I’m afraid this deluge is only going to continue ladies! And probably at an elevated rate now they are here and not getting their way! , I’m going to have to be prepared to start a new thread at the drop of a hat! 😬

We're behind you, your Jeffness! Fighting the good fight 💪🏼!

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