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If you don't believe the Sussex children are real....

481 replies

SleepingStandingUp · 24/06/2026 12:14

... can you explain it to me? So many comments on media articles etc saying oh it's because the kdis aren't theirs, they're actors, they have no kids, they just rent them for photos.

Archie was born in England, the Royal family met him, she was photographed with a tiny baby.
Do you think it was a doll or someone was paid to hand over their baby for a photo?
Who are these people who rent our their kids for photos? Why don't they sell their exclusive story for millions?
Why has no one around her, or where the kids reportedly educated, done the same?
What happens when the "kids" become adults and can't reasonably be kept out of sight? Will they "kill" them off, come clean or adopt a couple of fake actors to play the role?

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SidekickSylvia · 24/06/2026 14:49

MellowZebra · 24/06/2026 14:39

Did you not know that we were locked down during the pandemic so that the government could change the birds' batteries?

I love this. I wonder if some people did/do genuinely believe it.

user293948849167 · 24/06/2026 14:51

MrsSchadenfreude · 24/06/2026 14:09

I just wish she would brush her daughter’s hair occasionally.

My friend’s daughter is half Ghanaian and looks completely white, with straight light brown hair and green eyes. Her cousin, who is also mixed, looks completely black. Genetics are odd!

I keep reading this about the hair but actually my DD had similar hair as a small child, naturally wavy but quite fine so it did look messy quickly when she did normal kid stuff like run - I really did brush it!

bluegreygreen · 24/06/2026 14:52

And why does it bother you if her child's hair is messy?

Because it will be unpleasant for a child when she reaches the sensitive preteen years that multiple images of her (freely available online to her and her friends) show her with messy clothes or unbrushed hair.

This is the primary issue with the images of the Sussex children; there is also the issue with the hypocrisy and the merchandising, but the images will be available for years into the future, when they are old enough to see them, and they are not calculated to improve their mental wellbeing.

Lifeomars · 24/06/2026 14:53

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 24/06/2026 14:27

'Lady' Colin Campbell knows no one in the RF. She's barking mad. The Harry and Meghan haters think she knows something because she was married to a lord for 5 minutes about 50 years ago!

She's almost in the same league as that Lady Victoria Harvey creature. She is a complete Andrew MBW defender in her capacity as one of his "former girlfriends" which I guess means she shagged him for a few weeks. She claims that all the Epstein stuff is malicious, made up gossip. An unspeakable cruel and vicious snob

EarlyRun · 24/06/2026 14:56

user293948849167 · 24/06/2026 14:51

I keep reading this about the hair but actually my DD had similar hair as a small child, naturally wavy but quite fine so it did look messy quickly when she did normal kid stuff like run - I really did brush it!

I think people should think before they type. Their daughter has likely inherited some hair genes from her mum. Black people get pretty fed up of people commenting on the texture and look of their hair as it’s so often stems from racism. Maybe people know what they’re doing by commenting though. 🤔

Campingintherain2024 · 24/06/2026 14:57

No wonder they left the UK. Its probably for the best. I really don't understand the hatred towards them.

Tulipsriver · 24/06/2026 14:58

Mixedmix · 24/06/2026 13:27

I’ve heard that Meghan used donor eggs/surrogacy for one or both pregnancies. I know Meghan is half white but the children are very fair. They don’t look mixed race. I’m mixed race and have a mixed race child.

Genetics are weird 🤷‍♀️. My friend is mixed race (one parent black and one white). She has quite dark skin, eyes, and hair and looks very obviously mixed race. Her partner is white and fair haired.

Their little girl is fair skinned with blue eyes and dark blonde wavy hair. She looks very much like her maternal grandmother and her mum's half sisters.

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

MrsEmmelineLucas · 24/06/2026 15:01

Campingintherain2024 · 24/06/2026 14:57

No wonder they left the UK. Its probably for the best. I really don't understand the hatred towards them.

The internet has no borders. It makes no difference where they live.

LipglossAndLies · 24/06/2026 15:01

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

Just like with Catherine and her illness why does anyone need to k ow their medical history. If she used a surrogate thats her decision for whatever medical reasons she had. So lets treat them both the same and this thread should be deleted its so disgusting

Decacaffeinatednow · 24/06/2026 15:01

@timetochangethering
Has the heat got to you?

EnterQueene · 24/06/2026 15:03

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MaturingCheeseball · 24/06/2026 15:03

I too think this thread has been started in bad faith in order to provoke a fight that didn’t exist.

I think ages ago there was chatter about moonbumps and wotnot, but we’ve all seen (rather too much of) the kids now so obviously they very much exist.

As others have mentioned, the Kate hate when the woman had cancer was disgusting. On MN it was as terrible as anywhere and a few perpetrators of the bile slunk/were thrown off. That’s why I’m suspicious about these “do the kids exist” threads as I detect that some old hands are desperate to reignite outrage and accuse posters of all the usual crimes.

Decacaffeinatednow · 24/06/2026 15:05

I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.
She was never there. Archie was born in the Portland Hospital.
Do you actually realise how stupid you sound?

MaturingCheeseball · 24/06/2026 15:09

She didn’t do the “on the steps of” photo call because they had planned to sell the first picture… until they were stymied by the Big Bad Palace.

My2cents1975 · 24/06/2026 15:12

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 24/06/2026 13:42

“The wisest move this pair made was to back away from this level of utter crazy and move else where.”

They haven’t though. The utter crazy is online and the media and they have embraced both. Posting private family moments on social media. Creating press releases about their travels and family relationships.

It’s been the direct opposite of moving away from it.

It is quite a choice to claim that someone is backing away from "utter crazy" while that same person is sending $300 gift baskets of as ever gift set to an online influencer known as The Notorious JTB, who trolls the royal family, targeting Catherine with a particular level of malice.

I am "sure" it was also an accident that a person who viciously trolls Catherine was part of the screened group of people meeting M in Australia.

rhubarbcustardrhubarb · 24/06/2026 15:14

roses2 · 24/06/2026 12:29

I've heard the theory a donor egg may have been used because it is unusual for BOTH kids to be red haired when the mum has black hair but not being real is a new one!

The red hair gene can pop up anytime. I know people of Indian heritage with red hair. A lot of Afghans and Pakistani people have red and dark blonde hair.

Differentforgirls · 24/06/2026 15:14

roses2 · 24/06/2026 12:29

I've heard the theory a donor egg may have been used because it is unusual for BOTH kids to be red haired when the mum has black hair but not being real is a new one!

I have two sons. One has black, curly hair and dark brown eyes. The other has blonde, straight hair and blue eyes.The first is prone to put on weight, the second isn't. You can still tell they are brothers.

My first son is a secondary teacher. He teaches RMPS. He was explaining this very thing to a class of first years and described his wee brother. A 12 year old was insistant that they couldn't be brothers as it wasn't possible.

You sound like that 12 year old.

CaptainMyCaptain · 24/06/2026 15:16

roses2 · 24/06/2026 12:29

I've heard the theory a donor egg may have been used because it is unusual for BOTH kids to be red haired when the mum has black hair but not being real is a new one!

I can vouch for that not being true in my own family

MurunBuchstansangursCousinRossiter · 24/06/2026 15:16

Some people are as thick as shit and unfortunately the thicker someone is the more likely they are to want to believe that they know something other people don’t.

Or they’re just gullible. Unfortunately a friend of mine has been hanging around with a nut job who believes all sorts of shit and it’s rubbing off on my friend.

MrsEmmelineLucas · 24/06/2026 15:18

rhubarbcustardrhubarb · 24/06/2026 15:14

The red hair gene can pop up anytime. I know people of Indian heritage with red hair. A lot of Afghans and Pakistani people have red and dark blonde hair.

Exactly. The red hair gene could easily have been on the Markle side, their origins are Northern European, or even the Ragland side.

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 24/06/2026 15:19

My2cents1975 · 24/06/2026 15:12

It is quite a choice to claim that someone is backing away from "utter crazy" while that same person is sending $300 gift baskets of as ever gift set to an online influencer known as The Notorious JTB, who trolls the royal family, targeting Catherine with a particular level of malice.

I am "sure" it was also an accident that a person who viciously trolls Catherine was part of the screened group of people meeting M in Australia.

All while claiming to be the actual most bullied woman on the planet.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 24/06/2026 15:20

Unless you think the old Queen and Prince Philip would allow themselves to be photographed with a French baguette wrapped in a baby blanket, I don't think you can seriously argue that the first child is unreal. And if the first child is real, why doubt the second?
At the same time, the choice to be shown on social media very pointedly not showing your children does generate a lot more interest than either simply showing or not showing them would. It's a bit like appearing on social media with your face covered by a large red floppy hat. It revs up the gossip more than either showing your face or not appearing on social media at all would.

ExOptimist · 24/06/2026 15:28

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

They walk among us.

Allseeingallknowing · 24/06/2026 15:29

LipglossAndLies · 24/06/2026 15:01

Just like with Catherine and her illness why does anyone need to k ow their medical history. If she used a surrogate thats her decision for whatever medical reasons she had. So lets treat them both the same and this thread should be deleted its so disgusting

Can you show us pics of the fake rubber bump?