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If you don't believe the Sussex children are real....

481 replies

SleepingStandingUp · 24/06/2026 12:14

... can you explain it to me? So many comments on media articles etc saying oh it's because the kdis aren't theirs, they're actors, they have no kids, they just rent them for photos.

Archie was born in England, the Royal family met him, she was photographed with a tiny baby.
Do you think it was a doll or someone was paid to hand over their baby for a photo?
Who are these people who rent our their kids for photos? Why don't they sell their exclusive story for millions?
Why has no one around her, or where the kids reportedly educated, done the same?
What happens when the "kids" become adults and can't reasonably be kept out of sight? Will they "kill" them off, come clean or adopt a couple of fake actors to play the role?

OP posts:
AliceandOscar · 24/06/2026 15:32

Mixedmix · 24/06/2026 14:29

That’s rare! Mixed Asians like me usually look mixed but mainly darker eyes and hair.

Edited

I’m mixed Indian but go completely white in winter with blue eyes and brown hair, yet my brother’s nephew looks Indian with black hair and brown eyes despite his mum being a blue eyed blond
my sister is the one who got the auburn hair and eyes. .

Flowerlovinglady · 24/06/2026 15:33

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

Why would they do that though? I mean I can't see the motivation. They could just have cracked on like the Duke and Duchess of Windsor - no kids, no great problem since William has already produced three heirs.

chocoluv · 24/06/2026 15:34

I genuinely think social media needs to be restricted.

Too many people who are easily led are falling down rabbit holes of conspiracy theories or hate.

garlicandsapphires · 24/06/2026 15:36

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

You do sound quite batty tbh.

I suppose if you’re looking for ‘evidence’ and want to find it, you will find it.

I have seen this supposed ‘proof’ of a fake bump and it’s nonsense. I mean, a rubber bump is not inflated with air, is it, so therefore can’t ‘pop’ Confused

ComtesseDeSpair · 24/06/2026 15:37

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

For what possible reason would they do this? They have money, if they were struggling to conceive it is infinitely easier to have a child through IVF, surrogacy, or adoption than it is to put on a lifelong charade of having a child by borrowing one from a friend.

Citadelica · 24/06/2026 15:41

I don't believe anyone in Sussex is real.

My2cents1975 · 24/06/2026 15:46

chocoluv · 24/06/2026 15:34

I genuinely think social media needs to be restricted.

Too many people who are easily led are falling down rabbit holes of conspiracy theories or hate.

I am always cautious of restricting social media as the question becomes, who judges what is and what is not acceptable speech? And behind that is the question of who ensures that the judges are fair?

It is who watches the watcher ad infinitum.

IMHO, social media companies need to be held to similar standards as broadcasters. If BBC broadcasts something that is false, they can be sued. If Facebook permits sharing of content that is clearly false, the public prosecutors should be able to sue Facebook. That would transfer the burden of curtailing the crazy onto social media companies...if they have proper algorithms insane conspiracy theories would be eliminated at source.

Gizimajob · 24/06/2026 15:47

I think some of it may be designed to force H and M to show their children to the public properly - thus proving they are real.
It’s incredibly annoying anyway; anyone who really believes the story that the children are not real must be very gullible.
My own daughter’s hair looks different in different lights - sometimes almost ginger sometimes dark brown and I don’t think it’s very unusual for that to happen.

tartyflette · 24/06/2026 15:52

A lot of this stuff seems to originate in the US. No further comment needed.

x2boys · 24/06/2026 15:57

Lindy2 · 24/06/2026 13:00

Harry and Meghan do really invite conspiracy theories with their ridiculous approach to only showing photos of the back of the kids' heads and some of the obvious photoshopping that seems to occur.

I believe the children are real. However, I'm not 100% certain that Meghan gave birth to them.

Edited

I dont blane them hsve you seen some of the comments on the royal family board?
Down right nasty comments about two smsll children
Some of the poters on there really need to get themselve a hobby its not healthy the obesssion they have with H&M.

mrsbowes · 24/06/2026 15:58

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

Ok but what about birds?

simpsonthecat · 24/06/2026 15:58

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

I don't believe or agree with one bit of this. What with AI and conspiracy theorists everywhere, it is quite obvious to me it is just nonsense to feed off of.m

CanOnlyBeMyself · 24/06/2026 15:59

We’re not on this planet very long are we and there’s so much GOOD stuff to read…

Lifeomars · 24/06/2026 16:06

Mixedmix · 24/06/2026 14:29

That’s rare! Mixed Asians like me usually look mixed but mainly darker eyes and hair.

Edited

I once saw the most gorgeous mixed Asian and white baby girl in the supermarket, she had dark hair, light brown skin and green eyes. She was with her very proud auntie who was enjoying all the compliments herlittle niece was getting. My heritage includes Asian and Portuguese, which has given me skin that never burns and wavy dark hair, yet my sibling has taken after the English side and has straight brown hait and pale skin which burns. Genetics are fascinating.

x2boys · 24/06/2026 16:06

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

All this is just nonsense you for some resaon beleive.

BillericayDickie · 24/06/2026 16:08

Citadelica · 24/06/2026 15:41

I don't believe anyone in Sussex is real.

we are not , we are all robots.

famousfiveoutfortheday · 24/06/2026 16:11

I’ll NC after but this is me and my mum. We couldn’t be more different colouring if we tried

If you don't believe the Sussex children are real....
LipglossAndLies · 24/06/2026 16:18

Allseeingallknowing · 24/06/2026 15:29

Can you show us pics of the fake rubber bump?

What? Why are you asking me? Im not the one believing these disgusting theories. Why do you even need to see pics anyway? Wht do you need to even know?

bluegreygreen · 24/06/2026 16:20

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 14:58

Can I start by saying I am not batty!

There is a load of evidence out there that Meghan did not carry the children, in fact I would say it was a given that a surrogate was used. (I do believe the kids exist though!) What is odd is the lying about it and the obvious lies about the births etc.

Evidence;

She used (many) a fake rubber bump, but more than once it slipped (photos available purple dress, red coat), it popped in one video in a way an actual bump never would and folded in half in another again as a bump never would.

She travelled to the USA for her baby shower when she was too pregnant to fly (although I concede that she did fly on a private jet), and was photographed there with both virtually no bump and a big bump.

She travelled pregnant to a country with Zika virus which is foolish in the extreme, if she were pregnant, but perfectly understandable if not

The birth timeline for Archie doesn't make sense. She has stated she went to hospital, had an epidural, had Archie, then travelled home in the space of less than 12 hours, which is just not possible as she would have been immobile until the epidural wore off and the supposed journey was a minimum 90 minutes each way.

She has used the children of friends many times to pose for "archie" and "lilli" shots - Many of the photos of Lilli are actually Stassi Schroeder's daughter (look at the ears!)

One video with Harry and "Archie" playing footy is actually Harry and August.

She repeatedly uses other children instead of her own in photoshoots and photoshops the kids massively which makes people more suspicious.

Given her general penchant for publicity I cannot believe she didn't do the "on the steps of the Lindo wing" shot, which makes me believe she was never there.

Bump: Celebrities often use fake bumps to enhance (as they see it) the appearance of their pregnancy.

Flying: Rules regarding flying in pregnancy are made by airlines for insurance reasons, and are unlikely to apply to private flights.

Zika: You are not privy to the advice Meghan will have had (nor should you be), nor her response to said advice.

Birth timeline: Meghan and Harry lie. This has been proven in court for both. It has also been shown by historical evidence (Harry lied in his book being at school when the Queen Mother died; there is news footage of him arriving home from a ski trip with his father and brother). Meghan will have her reasons in this case (a more interesting birth story?).

Photos/videos: Both Meghan and Harry want to control the narrative.
One way Harry tries this is to bring court cases against newspaper groups.
One way Meghan does so is by taking photographs and publishing them out of date order, so that sometimes the children seem younger than they did in previous photos. She also manipulates the photographs a lot.
Does she take photos of other children as well? Perhaps, but unlikely. Where would be the benefit?

Lindo WIng: Archie was born in the Portland, not in the Lindo Wing. It is reported that Meghan had planned a different first photo reveal for American television.

None of your 'evidence' indicates that Meghan did not carry the children.

Public figures have the right to private medical and health information.

People who lie are not going stop lying just because something important has happened in their lives, particularly if they think they can control the narrative by lying.

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 24/06/2026 16:20

famousfiveoutfortheday · 24/06/2026 16:11

I’ll NC after but this is me and my mum. We couldn’t be more different colouring if we tried

You are both lovely.

LipglossAndLies · 24/06/2026 16:20

chocoluv · 24/06/2026 15:34

I genuinely think social media needs to be restricted.

Too many people who are easily led are falling down rabbit holes of conspiracy theories or hate.

I think sm just do away with anonymity. Let us see the names of people who spew out all these disgusting comments...I bet if that happened you wouldnt see it who would risk their jobs and relationships if people saw ehat they actually do and say. Here everyday bashing a family they never met endlessly. What is PR disasters on thread 17? Jesus why? Insane.

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 16:21

LipglossAndLies · 24/06/2026 15:01

Just like with Catherine and her illness why does anyone need to k ow their medical history. If she used a surrogate thats her decision for whatever medical reasons she had. So lets treat them both the same and this thread should be deleted its so disgusting

Except it makes a difference to the line of succession. She (and Harry, more so him) should have owned it and asked the Queen to make an amendment using Letters Patent, instead they have tried to hide it.

Harry has tried to have his cake an eat it by both being a public figure and wanting his kids to be Prince and Princess, and also wanting to be private - he could have easily done like Anne and Edward with their kids and allowed them to live as private citizens.

chocoluv · 24/06/2026 16:22

My2cents1975 · 24/06/2026 15:46

I am always cautious of restricting social media as the question becomes, who judges what is and what is not acceptable speech? And behind that is the question of who ensures that the judges are fair?

It is who watches the watcher ad infinitum.

IMHO, social media companies need to be held to similar standards as broadcasters. If BBC broadcasts something that is false, they can be sued. If Facebook permits sharing of content that is clearly false, the public prosecutors should be able to sue Facebook. That would transfer the burden of curtailing the crazy onto social media companies...if they have proper algorithms insane conspiracy theories would be eliminated at source.

I agree and have always thought that people should have the freedom to see everything.
But I wonder if just time restrictions would help.

There are studies that show those that spend more time on SM are more likely to have MH issues or more likely to believe conspiracy theories/be more hateful.

I’m wondering if simply going on it less would mitigate some of these things.

bluegreygreen · 24/06/2026 16:22

x2boys · 24/06/2026 15:57

I dont blane them hsve you seen some of the comments on the royal family board?
Down right nasty comments about two smsll children
Some of the poters on there really need to get themselve a hobby its not healthy the obesssion they have with H&M.

Regular posters usually shut down comments about children, which is why I wanted to know why the OP had posted this thread.

timetochangethering · 24/06/2026 16:22

Decacaffeinatednow · 24/06/2026 15:01

@timetochangethering
Has the heat got to you?

Nope?