Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
The royal family
Original poster

ITV documentary about Andrew and Ghislaine

116 replies

cherryonthecakes · 17/01/2022 23:22

www.itv.com/news/2022-01-17/ghislaine-maxwell-kept-coming-in-and-out-in-and-out-of-buckingham-palace

An ITV documentary is airing tomorrow suggesting that Andrew may have dated Ghislaine Maxwell

OP posts:
Roussette · 18/01/2022 21:54

Ian Maxwell still says she's innocent.

toddybell · 18/01/2022 21:55

@Roussette

toddy He's been Ghislaine's cheerleader all the way through. He set up a Ghislaine webpage with frequent interviews and news about how wronged she has been.

Yes but he's defended her to the hilt. He must've know this programme wasn't going to be focussed on how lovely a person she was. He's said her main asset was that she was 'pretty'.

Roussette · 18/01/2022 21:56

Yes Ian... she will get the justice she deserves. Hopefully

Roussette · 18/01/2022 21:59

God, he's such a pompous twat

Slingingcontest · 18/01/2022 22:00

Interesting that Epstein got to know Ghislaine when her father's crimes had been exposed and she was totally broke.

That in no way absolves her involvement - she was well educated and had free will - and was not only involved but a key player and as guilty as sin.

But we now know the way he operated, and that her motive was money.

The other interesting thing was the sheer number of young girls present at the NY house (as witnessed by female journalist). It doesn't sound as though PA could have had any doubt about what was going on.

BoodleBug51 · 18/01/2022 22:04

That was a very good programme from ITV.

Georgeskitchen · 18/01/2022 22:14

The programme didn't tell us anything we don't already know

Vapeyvapevape · 18/01/2022 22:15

I wonder who's idea or was for Andrew to become a trade ambassador ? He knows eff all less ten about trade and business .

FunkyPhantom · 18/01/2022 22:20

I bet he was sweating watching that.......

Oh, hang on..........

Toasterandjam · 18/01/2022 22:30

The address book posted on here was interesting...Tony Blair...Richard Branson....not saying either involved of course but I knew someone who worked for Branson when she was younger and always said that he was very handsy with all the young girls.

The documentary revealing that a 14 year old was involved, didn't realise that, its even more disgusting, if possible, than I first. The lawyer defending Andrew can't have any daughters as surely he wouldn't be able to stomach this case, let alone take it on? I'm glad I watched the programme but made me feel sick.

derxa · 18/01/2022 22:31

@Georgeskitchen

The programme didn't tell us anything we don't already know
Yup I found Ranvir's commentary a bit ......
Roussette · 18/01/2022 22:33

Slinging. I can't remember the exact figure, something like $68million was what JE gave to GM over the course of their relationship.
When they first met, she was living in a very small NY apartment, then she moved on to him, money and luxury.
I suppose then she owed him and started procuring young girls for him

derxa · 18/01/2022 22:33

@Roussette

Ian Maxwell still says she's innocent.
She's his sister
TVTestCard · 18/01/2022 22:37

I did enjoy the description of Mick Jagger .. “big lips, stringy hair... what’s his name again?” Grin

Roussette · 18/01/2022 22:37

Do you think I don't know that?

flippertyop · 18/01/2022 22:40

Regardless of if he was involved in the trafficking (and who knows) how, as a member of the royal family, he thought it was acceptable to be around that kind of behaviour I don't know - other than he was an arrogant twat. It really serves him right to be stripped of everything - being an HRH was his job and he should never have mixed in those circles

Roussette · 18/01/2022 22:44

Yes I agree.
An HRH and at the time a Trade Envoy representing our country.
That meant nothing to him obviously if he can mix with the likes of JE

Honourable my arse

blyn72 · 18/01/2022 22:54

I thought some of the eye witnesses seemed unreliable.

Slingingcontest · 18/01/2022 22:55

@Roussette

Slinging. I can't remember the exact figure, something like $68million was what JE gave to GM over the course of their relationship. When they first met, she was living in a very small NY apartment, then she moved on to him, money and luxury. I suppose then she owed him and started procuring young girls for him
Wow @ $68 million. Didn't know it was as much as that. Think of the good that could have been done with that amount of money Sad
Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/01/2022 22:56

Well, that was just a rehash of things we already know, but I bet Andrew wishes to god that interview could somehow be made to disappear - talk about offering a hostage to fortune

BringBackThinEyebrows · 18/01/2022 22:59

I had the documentary on in the background. Ghislaine described Prince Andrew as her friend rather than Epstein's, and they had a warm friendship. Was there anything else to suggest a relationship?

Lolamento · 18/01/2022 23:12

After seeing a clip when that ITV presenter calls PA I do not think I would bother. So obviously bias.

TVTestCard · 18/01/2022 23:13

Re her brothers .. does anyone know what they think about her innocence? Like do they think none of it happened or do they think Epstein did abuse the women but Ghislaine wasn’t involved? Or that Epstein didn’t do anything wrong either? I wasn’t sure if they’d said or not.

Slingingcontest · 18/01/2022 23:18

Or do the brothers think that with Epstein, she had replicated an almost carbon copy of the relationship she had with her tyrannical father and therefore they don't consider her entirely responsible (which she definitely was!).

Justkeeppedaling · 18/01/2022 23:47

@Vapeyvapevape

Did the bears have hidden cameras in them ?
I reckon there was something in the bears, but I was more on the lines of thinking it might be drugs if some kind.