The Traitors Part 2

[QueenOfThorns]

Don’t sit on the nice furniture if you smell like fish!

I wonder if tomorrow it'll be 2 out - whoever gets the most votes.

Wonder what they'll make of no one gone at Breakfast (if Keiro stays).

They'll have to switch things up somehow so that it could go either way in the finale.

If Kieran stays they will murder someone as normal

I think Claudia said there’ll be a murder even if Kieran accepts. They were very careful in the trailer, I think only Hannah, Aaron and Wilf appeared. So Maddy, Meryl or Andrea could have been murdered. Is there anyone I’ve forgotten?

It's interesting. Amanda was playing to protect herself. Whereas Will did the numbers and realised he had the block to take control of the game.

Amanda had an alliance with Andrea and Aaron. Wilf had an alliance with Meryl, Keiron and Hannah meaning he had one more. Maddy was the wild card not really in either team.

It was interesting as it was said by one of them after the round table 'omg she created a team which she controlled' but no one is asking the same question about the other team...

Will's choices for who to murder were actually tough without the twist. Keep his numbers and pick off the others (making it look more likely its one of the team) or pick one of his team and lose his numbers.

The twist gives him a massive second life imo.

I can't see Kieron just walking. He might as well take the chance - but yes he could turn on Wilf. But Wilfs only other option was Hannah and he's right about another male.

That would mean in terms of who he kills next, I think it's easier for him to pick off one of those not in the team - so Andrea or Maddie. Because it leaves only the team to turn on each other for the last few rounds. So he needs a second traitor as part of his team.

I don't know that Kieron has built relationships as strong as will. The pivotal relationship becomes Hannah.

Who does Kieron think he can win over in a numbers game and who does Wilf think he can win over? Or do they play another numbers game?

How many are there who get to the end? If its 3 they have to aim to take Hannah to the end, shafting her in the process.

They have the numbers to potentially pick off the others if they take that approach imo.

The key is to look at who is playing the numbers game, and seeing that block voting is the very thing the traitors will aim for. And if you are doing that, I think Keiron is the more obvious target for now.

It depends on how dirty Kieron is prepared to play. He will know how low Will has gone. So that makes it easier for him to go dirty.

Ultimately I think Kieron has to pick between shafting Will or shafting Hannah and thats what will decide the game, unless Hannah can twig that both Kieron AND Wilf are traitors and I don't think she will believe its both of them UNLESS Claudia says there are two left tomorrow.

I do think Wilf was left in a position where Amanda had left herself exposed after Theo went. It was a massive error to take out one of her numbers, as it made her look both duplicitous and weakened her own numbers game. It's worth saying that with Meryl's vote to Amanda, Amanda had three and Maddie had two. Thus Wills choice was either to try and take out Maddie in a tie or take the opportunity to take out Amanda whilst also going with the pack in a protective manner. If he'd gone for Maddy over Amanda it could have looked more suspicious regardless of whether Amanda or Maddie had ultimately gone in a tie break.

Its all about the numbers game now

I thought that if Kieron accepts he and Will will do a murder?

So either way, somebody won't be at breakfast so the faithfuls maybe won't clock that there's been a recruitment.

Oh I didn't think about that!

Loving it. Including chat on here
looking round at my own family now and wondering how it would play out if we did a traitor game.

got my eye on a few 😉😉😉

If kieran stays tomorrow is 6 people going into the round table, and one murder tomorrow.

That leaves 4 for the final day, potentially with another round table.

However... I can well see there being another twist.

But I find it hard to work out how you get a double banishing with the numbers left in.

As it stands I can't see the final three without a traitor at this point without a key twist cos of how the numbers game plays out.

But twists...

They need to know how many traitors there are. It's not fair otherwise.

I've grown to love Wilf, he is top traitor material and he deserves to win. In short, you're all wrong, I'm right and let's hear no more about it.

Loving this programme. But did I misunderstand it - Claudia picked the traitors so any of them could have been? So why do they take it all so personally?

I've been cheering Will on since the start.

I think hes great.

Especially when Claudia interviewed everyone at the start and he was all' of course I want to be a faithful- not'

I think hes played a great game, hes there to win, not make friends.

I do believe a lot of his tears are fake, he doesnt want to come across as ruthless to the viewers.

When given the chance I thought he would pick Hannah, someone who would have his back and he could have easy discussions with about who to murder. I understand why he went with Kieron- because he thought they would think at least 1 traitor was a guy, but I think hes shot himself in he foot. I think Hannah should have been his choice.

Kieron is quite smart, and can outplay him. I dont think Kieron will be as easy to beat as he thinks, Kieron had a lot of influence,.and he can use it just as easily to take down Will.

I dont think he will trust Will at all esp when he works out how it was Will who was leading everyone to the traitors.

But for me it is Will for the win!

Also I dont think it's fair they get an extra kill.

The team have just found a traitor and Will gets a free choice to recruit.

Before he could only recruit and if they refused to become a traitor there wasnt a kill. But tonight there will be a kill regardless.

What's the point of finding the traitors if they just make new ones?

The faithful literally got down to 1 traitor and they gave Will a free traitor without any risk. He will get a kill regardless.

.I dont think there is any chance at all Kieron will refuse this chance, why would you go home empty handed after all this?

Yes, I think if he gets to recruit he shouldn't also get to kill. Odds are in traitors' favour from the start anyway.

They showed Hannah, Aaron and Wilf in the trailer but there was another female voice which I think was Meryl. So Andrea or Maddy to be murdered, or Kieran declines.

I think Kieran accepts and they kill Maddy, and that puts heat on Aaron as a traitor because he spent a lot of time with Amanda and was really upset she was voted out. As Will says, they'll be looking for a bloke.

I don't get how they wittle down from here - there'll be 6 left at the start of tomorrow's episode, do they do more than one banishment? Or banishments on the final day? Trying to work out how many people can be left before the big reveal.

I think Wilf made the right decision recruiting Kieron. His thinking is logical. The faithful should be thinking there is a male traitor. If it was me I would think either Wilf or Aaron was a traitor rather than Kieron so it makes sense to recruit Kieron. I don’t think Aaron would make a good traitor. During the round table bit where they all claimed to be a faithful I thought Aaron looked the least trustworthy. Just goes to show how easily people can lie.
Someone needs to think it’s one of the men and vote them out. Going to be hard if Kieron accepts the challenge as both he and Wilf will manipulate Meryl and Hannah. I think Aaron could be up for being murdered. Then Andrea.

I’m really pissed off at Will. I hope he doesn’t win.

But Amanda should have realised when he threw Alyssa under the bus that he’d have no loyalty.

I also liked Amanda more than Wilf. Amanda was honest about her intentions. Wilf is deceitful and yes’s I know that is the nature of the game but I don’t want him to win.

It's a logical choice, but it's not going to play out how Will wanted.

Kieron is too smart for him. Hannah would have been a good ally for him.,.and they could have worked well together. She would have had his back.

I think they need to avoid getting that idea, that at least 1 traitor is a Male out, cos Aaron is the obvious choice but if he is voted out then there is only the 2 of them left. Also they would need to avoid murdering Aaron.

I think Kieron will betray Will and cause him to be voted out.

If Will and keiron are in the last vote with one faithful = they will vote against each other - neither could trust each other not too. I imagine they would also vote against each other with 4 i.e two faITHFULS plus them in the final vote. The odds are very much on a traitor winning I think with maybe only two banishments to go

I don’t mind wilf either. From tiktok I can see he’s got 2 little girls and a partner, which is a lot of responsibility for his age- genuinely believe that’s what is driving his need to win. It is all a game after all and he’s playing it well so far. I agree with a pp it would have made more sense to go with Aaron to recruit, his name is already being dropped and I don’t think he has the same potential as Kieron to turn on him.

Love seeing the reactions to discovering traitors, wish the murdered all learned their identities before they leave as well.

Will their be a twist involving the murdered ones and that is why they don't find out who are the traitors?

There not their, bloody phone

Meryl is so boring. Never says or does anything interesting. You can tell they struggle to find enough footage of her worth broadcasting.