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The Traitors Part 2

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QueenOfThorns · 15/12/2022 21:29

Don’t sit on the nice furniture if you smell like fish!

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Twonewcats · 22/12/2022 11:33

Peasepuddingbloodycold · 22/12/2022 08:19

I hope Kieran’s videos don’t go viral or make it to the mainstream media.

Why? He's total scum. And anyone who records videos like that then CHOOSES to post them to YouTube, thinking they'll get laughs shows what an idiot he is.
I hate trial by media stuff, but he's put the horrible stuff out there - it's there for everyone to see. The media/public SHOULD be disgusted at this, and he shouldn't be getting fawned over

Twonewcats · 22/12/2022 11:35

The series is definitely skewed towards traitors being more likely to do well, in a way, which is a shame, given that it's a "random" choice who ends up being a traitor.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 22/12/2022 11:36

On that thought, my next guess is going to be that a possible twist tonight is that the people being banished are not allowed to say whether they are Faithful or a Traitor until after those remaining have said they think they have got rid of all the traitors and are ending the game.

I'm not sure about that. At the moment the faithful don't know exactly how many traitors are left. They know they've found two but because of the murder as well as recruitment, they don't know another one's been created. If one traitor is voted out and says what they are, the faithful will then be forced to decide if they think there is another one still in! More tension.

I think Hannah and Meryl are the problem. Hannah is so convinced it's not Wilf that she can't change that view now without looking stupid and Meryl will just follow her. For me it's made the result possibly a foregone conclusion so not enjoying this later part of the series as much. I hope Kieran manages to spice things up.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I really miss Amanda.

porpy · 22/12/2022 11:37

Oh I hope further series do not get the Love Island treatment, one of the reasons this has been such a hit is the range of people and ages, people are bored of boring influencer types on reality shows.

Peasepuddingbloodycold · 22/12/2022 11:39

On that thought, my next guess is going to be that a possible twist tonight is that the people being banished are not allowed to say whether they are Faithful or a Traitor

I thought this was the case and that’s what Claudia said.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 22/12/2022 11:40

Maybe I should apply for the next Series

I think you should and then come on here and give us clues

CaveMum · 22/12/2022 11:43

@Peasepuddingbloodycold no, Claudia just said “you decide when the game ends.”

If they tell them there are more traitors, then if they vote off a faithful first it will be obvious that 2 of the remaining 4 have to be traitors. If they vote again and get rid of another faithful then they will know 2 of the remaining are traitors.

Rowthe · 22/12/2022 11:51

RedToothBrush · 22/12/2022 10:25

I think the strategies to get to the final are :

work out who a traitor is and then buddy up to them whilst acting dim as fuck if you are a faithful. do as the traitor directs

take out your fellow traitors if you are a traitor

Once you get to the later stages you want to be on the right side of block voting. So being nice, but dim and not sticking your head up too much works.

Meryl has perfected this. She is nice enough but dull and thats why she's made the final.
Hannah buddied up early on with the right traitor

My expectation for next series is to see it more tactical with faithful perhaps correctly identifying their buddy is a traitor but deliberately trying to keep them in until the late stages as the alliance is more important than getting the traitor out.

What Wilf has been best at is timing and understanding the right moment to make the right move against the right person.

Alyssa was a liability and it become him or her so he ensured he survived.

Amanda made a massive error with Theo and went for him in logic I don't really get. Wilf nearly got caught out doing the same thing with Hannah over the who do you trust game but got away with it because it wasn't a banishment. I don't think he would have had it been.

Amanda's error was noticed and that made her vulnerable. Wilf did take advantage but it hadn't gone unnoticed by others.

I do think that Hannah is the one to watch tonight. She holds the keys to the final.

Her loyalty to Wilf isn't matched by any other relationship in the group. I can't see her shifting loyalty from Wilf to Kieran at this point. Something may happen tonight and she may do, but as it stands Kieran needs to play a blinder to beat Wilf.

There is 5 left and they KNOW there is at least one traitor left. They will keep voting off someone until a traitor has gone. So an alliance between Will and Kieran won't work unless they can both get to the final 3. They both will have worked that out.

The numbers mean that if Will and Hannah can survive the first banishment tonight, its extremely difficult for Kieran to win.

If Will and Hannah survive its 2 v 2.

Both Meryl and Aaron can be manipulated easier, so I think this is Keirans problem. Taking out Hannah gives a better shot at taking out Wilf. But leaving Hannah and teaming up with Wilf to get to the final three works too. He will probably struggle to take out Wilf without taking out Hannah first.

Wilf will want to take out Kieran though I suspect. For much the same reasons. But if he tries this in the first round where he hasn't got the numbers he leaves himself more exposed. He would be better to hedge his bets and take out one of Meryl and Aaron to get to a 2 v 2 situation where the balance of power tips in his favour.

I am therefore expecting the first banishment to target Hannah in someway. Whether she survives determines the game.

Yes the only way Will loses is if Kieron gets Hannah banished.

I dont think the others will vote for Will as a traitor unless Hannah has gone

Rowthe · 22/12/2022 11:53

Twonewcats · 22/12/2022 11:35

The series is definitely skewed towards traitors being more likely to do well, in a way, which is a shame, given that it's a "random" choice who ends up being a traitor.

Yeah the traitors were given a helping hand when Wilf was given a free recruitment.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 22/12/2022 11:53

Claudia just said “you decide when the game ends.”

Yes I think that's the problem. If for e.g. Aaron and Kieran were voted out and Hannah, Meryl and Wilf were left in, I could see Hannah persuading Meryl to vote for the game to end and Wilf will win. (Assuming there's no extra twist thrown in.).

Twonewcats · 22/12/2022 11:55

CaveMum · 22/12/2022 11:43

@Peasepuddingbloodycold no, Claudia just said “you decide when the game ends.”

If they tell them there are more traitors, then if they vote off a faithful first it will be obvious that 2 of the remaining 4 have to be traitors. If they vote again and get rid of another faithful then they will know 2 of the remaining are traitors.

But they won't tell them there are more traitors - they've to decide if they think they have found them all.
They have no idea currently whether ANY of them are traitors, although Andrea being murdered would prove there is at least one.

Twonewcats · 22/12/2022 11:57

Rowthe · 22/12/2022 11:53

Yeah the traitors were given a helping hand when Wilf was given a free recruitment.

Also, the traitors just have to watch their body language/alliances etc (which is def hard), whereas the faithfuls have to do that too, AND work out who they can trust and who to be allied with

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 22/12/2022 11:58

They have no idea currently whether ANY of them are traitors, although Andrea being murdered would prove there is at least one.

Plus there would be absolutely no tension if we knew that there were no traitors and so at least some of the faithful would win money.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 22/12/2022 12:00

Yeah the traitors were given a helping hand when Wilf was given a free recruitment.

Yes I think they had to do that to show the faithfuls that there was at least one traitor left.

pizzazze · 22/12/2022 12:00

I assume that when the banishments happen they won't find out if they were a fairhful or a traitor because if they do it will make the game too simple

ReneBumsWombats · 22/12/2022 12:04

I think Hannah and Meryl are the problem.

It's Hannah. She's making that classic human mistake of seeing treacherous behaviour in others but not in the one she's invested in. I can't blame her, it's what we all do, but it's so frustrating. How did Wilf explain not choosing her at the dinner party? She was really hurt by that. I need to watch again to see what he did.

ReneBumsWombats · 22/12/2022 12:06

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 22/12/2022 12:00

Yeah the traitors were given a helping hand when Wilf was given a free recruitment.

Yes I think they had to do that to show the faithfuls that there was at least one traitor left.

I think it was to ensure there was at least one traitor in the final. In case Wilf got banished.

ReneBumsWombats · 22/12/2022 12:07

There was a clue really in just how angry Kieran got when he thought Wilf had been planting his name.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 22/12/2022 12:07

I don't know if it does make it simpler. The twist is that the contestants decide when the game is over. So, if a traitor is voted out in the first banishment, do the remaining ones think phew, we got him, let's end the game? And then Claudia says, are you sure there are no more? Wilf or Aaron would have to play it very carefully not to appear too eager to end the game. It's going to be interesting.

Twonewcats · 22/12/2022 12:17

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 22/12/2022 12:07

I don't know if it does make it simpler. The twist is that the contestants decide when the game is over. So, if a traitor is voted out in the first banishment, do the remaining ones think phew, we got him, let's end the game? And then Claudia says, are you sure there are no more? Wilf or Aaron would have to play it very carefully not to appear too eager to end the game. It's going to be interesting.

yep, I think the Round Table will be very very interesting from a psychological point of view.
There will be things said and done which could out Will and Kieran very very easily.

FluffyYucca · 22/12/2022 12:32

Thinking about this some more.

I think Kieran’s best chance is to try to persuade Aaron and Meryl that both Wilf and Hannah are traitors and to test the theory out with Wilf first.

ReneBumsWombats · 22/12/2022 12:34

FluffyYucca · 22/12/2022 12:32

Thinking about this some more.

I think Kieran’s best chance is to try to persuade Aaron and Meryl that both Wilf and Hannah are traitors and to test the theory out with Wilf first.

That would be smart. And with Hannah's devotion to Wilf, it'll look plausible. I have been wondering if people will think she's a traitor since she's so sure about Wilf.

BoreOfWhabylon · 22/12/2022 12:39

Twonewcats · 22/12/2022 11:33

Why? He's total scum. And anyone who records videos like that then CHOOSES to post them to YouTube, thinking they'll get laughs shows what an idiot he is.
I hate trial by media stuff, but he's put the horrible stuff out there - it's there for everyone to see. The media/public SHOULD be disgusted at this, and he shouldn't be getting fawned over

Agree entirely. Please can someone post them on Twitter/whatever? He's disgusting.

Bourneolou · 22/12/2022 12:50

Brilliant

The Traitors Part 2
Taxistaxing · 22/12/2022 12:51

The initial choice of traitors wasn't random. Claudia interviewed them and asked if they thought they could be/wanted to be a traitor and a lot straightaway said 'no'.

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