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EASTENDERS 59. WINTER WEDDINGS OR NOT. - no spoilers .!!!!!!

926 replies

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/12/2022 10:15

Sooooooooo new thread again

phil is in Spain , hurry up and sort out Keeble

will there be weddings. Phil and Kat or dare I say Alfie and cat

and muck and Janice 😂😂

will Kat fall for Alfie’s charm aka lies via panto and end up kissing him

as I said on last thread , slowly heading for Xmas , god please let the photo of Janine hiding bloody clothes be sussed and Linda truth be out and muck and L back together

shame no baby merrkat

whitney is 30 and preg so due July ish

all other kids in kiddicupboard

dot is dead and her funeral

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Figgygal · 26/12/2022 08:44

It went downhill after they left the pub didnt it
I think I'd rather he was just dead dead there's no way he'd leave his family to resurface in years time

AntonDuPig · 26/12/2022 09:04

Alyssa is so cute!!

Who is Ronnie (currently)? 🤔
At the pub Christmas lunch, pre showdown - Mick asked Linda where to put Annie down for a kip, and she replied put her down in Ronnie’s room?

SoupDragon · 26/12/2022 09:08

AntonDuPig · 26/12/2022 09:04

Alyssa is so cute!!

Who is Ronnie (currently)? 🤔
At the pub Christmas lunch, pre showdown - Mick asked Linda where to put Annie down for a kip, and she replied put her down in Ronnie’s room?

Ollie, not Ronnie

SoupDragon · 26/12/2022 09:11

I'd completely forgotten that Janine made Jada frame Linda.

Watching everything come crashing down around Janine and her trying to scrabble about constructing more lies was well done (and terrible for poor Scarlet).

MsMiaWallace · 26/12/2022 09:24

Maybe Alfie used the 'stolen' 30k & bought the other half of the Vic?

AntonDuPig · 26/12/2022 09:29

SoupDragon · 26/12/2022 09:08

Ollie, not Ronnie

Oh thank you! I totally misheard Ronnie.

That makes more sense!

PeasInOurTime · 26/12/2022 09:59

RedToothBrush · 26/12/2022 00:32

Dee Bliss and Harold Bishop 'died'. Mick has clearly 'died'.

Janine will leave. Only to return in 7 years to claim her estate from Mick. Only for Mick to secretly return, hiding in the shadows, just a week before she would get it.

Meanwhile it will turn out that Mick was the person who had remained in touch with Ian (tipping him off about Dot's funeral) and after returning to the beach and being unable to find either Janine or Lynda in the stormy conditions (he was now 2 miles down the coast), thought that he would be done for murder / had no reason to live so turned to Ian for advice. He stayed with Ian for a while, so he could create a new identity and get a job. This also helped Ian give a backstory to his new wife.

Janine rocks up, only for SCENES at the Queen Vic.

In the Vic looking shocked are Billy and Jay who now have moved in with each other and after a secret affair that came out at Christmas 2026. Grant is now the Landlord having shacked up with Shirley (though no married - its a relationship of convenience and because Grant is still technically in hiding). Cat is married to Dave Branning, who is a second cousin three times removed of Jack. Whitney is in black, wailing as she mourns the sudden death of her ninth fiancee. Sonia now smokes 20 a day and recites the bible. Honey died in mysterious circumstances in 2027 (part of the ongoing serial killer storyline featuring Bobby Beale). Martin Fowler still is a massive fucking Loser with a capital L. Bernadette now has quads after a desparate attempt to save her relationship with Melissa Brown (Bernadette is in the pub with her whole family but the quads are nowhere to be seen).

Then for New Year Mick lets slip about Ian. Ian returns with a plan to take revenge on Phil (who is still not in jail and is still leading his non-exist gang empire of lounging about looking 'ard without actually doing anything, especially not crime) and Sharon.

Meanwhile in a twist no one saw coming its revealed that Sharon wasn't just shagging Phil and Keanu - Albie is actually Ben's baby via sperm donation.

Thus there is an inevitable hospital scene at New Year - no one knows who will end up there. But Sonic is inexplicably on duty as a nurse there, despite having taken her new 9 - 5 job as the practice nurse at the new GPs.

The Duff Duffers cut on a still of Stacey screaming 'NOOOOOOO'.

Brilliant 🤩

amprev · 26/12/2022 10:08

I know it’s been said down thread, but Charlie Brooks played a blinder didn’t she? I don’t think there has been anyone finer in Eastenders doing mad bitch so well.

Has anyone noticed how awkward Phil Mitchell looks in the supposedly happy scenes - like when he gave Kat the empty jewellery box scene? His happy face looks like a slit in a welly.

Dodecaheidyin · 26/12/2022 10:21

His happy face looks like a slit in a welly.

😂

RedToothBrush · 26/12/2022 10:56

Can anyone answer a question that's plagued me for years: how many bedrooms does the Vic have?

And following on from that: who lives there.

Also repeat for the Slater household and the Mitchell / Moon household.

Harperweek · 26/12/2022 11:41

RedToothBrush · 26/12/2022 10:56

Can anyone answer a question that's plagued me for years: how many bedrooms does the Vic have?

And following on from that: who lives there.

Also repeat for the Slater household and the Mitchell / Moon household.

As you come up the stairs to the Vic, on the left is a bedroom, then the kitchen, then the lounge. Then there is a bedroom with the step down, aka Mick and Linda’s room. Then it the bathroom I think and possibly two more bedrooms beyond that.

that’s what I think anyway.

Eastie77Returns · 26/12/2022 11:49

EE does love a watery grave ending doesn’t it! Didn’t Shirley’s other son who attacked Linda die in a lake?

Mick told Janine she had 3 minutes to pack and leave, get out of his sight etc…and then decided to follow her anyway🙄 Why?!!!
Can’t believe he rescued her first.

Poor Scarlet. She’ll have to go and live with Uncle Ricky in Germany. I don’t think she has any relatives left on the square apart Tommy.

@RedToothBrush the Vic is a tardis and additional rooms appear at will. Up until yesterday I think Mick, Janine, Scarlett, Shirley, Ollie, Linda, Annie were living there? Ricky is staying too. Frankie and Nancy were there earlier in the year. There is never any mention of anyone sharing or sleeping on the sofa.

Anyway I don’t think Mick is dead dead. I think Danny Dyer’s acting range is so limited he won’t be a huge success post EE and he will be back. He didn’t get a Julia’s theme ending so the door is still open!

SoupDragon · 26/12/2022 11:49

Can anyone answer a question that's plagued me for years: how many bedrooms does the Vic have?

It has however many bedrooms they need it to have.

MotherMole · 26/12/2022 11:51

Merry Christmas all. This thread makes me laugh so much.

Just wanted to mention that they filmed the scenes at Joss Bay in Broadstairs, NOT Dover…. And you don’t get any phone signal there so technically that part was correct 😉

SoupDragon · 26/12/2022 11:57

Going by people, there must be at least 4 bedrooms in the Vic - Master bedroom, Ollie, Scarlett and Shirley.

The Slater house has 1 downstairs (would be dining room)m there must be a standard 3 upstairs plus the illegal attic.

Meredusoleil · 26/12/2022 11:58

In the Vic, there is:

Mick and Janine
Scarlett
Ollie
Shirley
Ricky (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Phil's House, there is:

Phil and Kat,
Tommy
Bert and Ernie
Freddie?

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In the Slater house, there is:

Stacey and Eve
Jean
Lilly
Hope and Arthur
Alfie (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms. But may be 5 if count the loft room which Alfie was making.

In Patrick's house, there is:

Patrick
Kim and Howie
Pearl and Micah
Denzel

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Jack's house, there is:

Jack and Denise
Amy
Ricky
Raymond

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Gray's house, there is:

Chelsea and Jordan
Whitney
Felix
Finlay

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Billy's house, there is:

Billy and Honey
Jay and Lola
Will and Janet
Lexi

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Karen's house, there is:

Karen
Mitch
Bernie
Bailey
Keanu (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Sharon's house, there is:

Sharon
Zack
Martin
Linda and Annie

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Kathy's house, there is:

Kathy and Rocky
Bobby

So I assume 2+ bedrooms.

Ben and Callum have their own place I think. Just a 2 bed flat.

Sonia lives on her own in Dot's old house.

Callum's nan Vi still lives above the funeral parlour I think.

Not sure where Sam lives these days. Or Mack and Mia.

Have I missed anyone?!?

SoupDragon · 26/12/2022 12:02

Just wanted to mention that they filmed the scenes at Joss Bay in Broadstairs, NOT Dover

that brings to mind a question I had.... are the cliffs really low enough for someone to be able to jump off "safely"?

SoupDragon · 26/12/2022 12:04

Don't forget that all houses have an optional Narnia Annexe.

Meredusoleil · 26/12/2022 12:06

SoupDragon · 26/12/2022 12:02

Just wanted to mention that they filmed the scenes at Joss Bay in Broadstairs, NOT Dover

that brings to mind a question I had.... are the cliffs really low enough for someone to be able to jump off "safely"?

Course not! I was thinking the impact of hitting the water alone would have killed Mick or at least knocked him out cold 🙃

RedToothBrush · 26/12/2022 12:14

Eastie77Returns · 26/12/2022 11:49

EE does love a watery grave ending doesn’t it! Didn’t Shirley’s other son who attacked Linda die in a lake?

Mick told Janine she had 3 minutes to pack and leave, get out of his sight etc…and then decided to follow her anyway🙄 Why?!!!
Can’t believe he rescued her first.

Poor Scarlet. She’ll have to go and live with Uncle Ricky in Germany. I don’t think she has any relatives left on the square apart Tommy.

@RedToothBrush the Vic is a tardis and additional rooms appear at will. Up until yesterday I think Mick, Janine, Scarlett, Shirley, Ollie, Linda, Annie were living there? Ricky is staying too. Frankie and Nancy were there earlier in the year. There is never any mention of anyone sharing or sleeping on the sofa.

Anyway I don’t think Mick is dead dead. I think Danny Dyer’s acting range is so limited he won’t be a huge success post EE and he will be back. He didn’t get a Julia’s theme ending so the door is still open!

Don't forget Sean disappearing for 10 years after falling into an icy lake:

As they show up Roxy fools Sean into kiss where she manages to free of the car and runs onto the icy lake as Ronnie and Jack retrieve Amy from the car, Sean follows Roxy on the icy and they seem to forgive each other however the Ice break and Sean and Roxy fall into the frozen lake Ronnie saves Roxy but Sean rescues himself Sean seems set to stay but Roxy tells him to go to which Sean walks away into the dark forest and is not seen until ten years later in April 2019

eastenders.fandom.com/wiki/Sean_Slater

I am currently reading the 'Kill Count' Section on the eastenders fandom site.

Phil's kill count is really funny. He's a Really Shit Murderer.
1. Alan Hall (8 March 1994) (Manslaughter) - Burned to death in a fire that Phil started on the orders of Frank Butcher, Phil did not know Alan was inside the car lot.

2. Jack Dalton (18 July 2003) (By proxy) - After being ordered to kill Dennis Rickman by Jack, Phil held Dennis at gun point telling Dennis the only way he would live is if Jack died, Dennis then offered to kill Jack himself, Phil then let Dennis go on the condition he carries out the killing and borrowed Dennis his car, Dennis then shot Jack dead.

3. Luke Browning (5 December 2017) (Unintentionally instigated) - He ordered Aidan Maguire to kidnap and only scare Luke off for assaulting his son Ben Mitchell, but Aidan ends up killing him.

4. Vincent Hubbard (20 April 2018, revealed 12 October 2021) (Unintentionally instigated) - Ordered Aidan and his henchman to kidnap Vincent, to stop him from going to the police about their crimes. Phil once again only wanted Aidan’s men to scare Vincent but Aidan killed Vincent.

5. Dennis Rickman Jr (21 February 2020) (Accidental) - Though he never intended to kill his Adoptive son, during a fight with Keanu Taylor (whom he did intend to kill) on the Smith-Holland (ship) Phil pushed Keanu into the ship's wheel, causing the boat to crash and killing Dennis.

So 5 deaths - one he didn't know about, three of which someone else does the deed and two of these are unintentional and then one accidental death.

He's also got 22 murder attempts. Thats twenty two times he's failed.

I stand by the claim that Phil is the World's Worst Gangster. He's just SHIT.

Meanwhile Janine has two clean murders and one manslaughter and killing her elderly husband David by giving him a heart attack and Mick's 'Death'. And 4 unsuccessful attempts so not only are her murders better, but her kill to attempt ratio is much better than Phil's. She does however tend to keep it to her husbands.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 26/12/2022 12:22

Great acting! Not from Mick of course!

Charlie Brooks is an incredible actress, liked her before, like her now!

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/12/2022 12:43

Meredusoleil · 26/12/2022 11:58

In the Vic, there is:

Mick and Janine
Scarlett
Ollie
Shirley
Ricky (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Phil's House, there is:

Phil and Kat,
Tommy
Bert and Ernie
Freddie?

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In the Slater house, there is:

Stacey and Eve
Jean
Lilly
Hope and Arthur
Alfie (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms. But may be 5 if count the loft room which Alfie was making.

In Patrick's house, there is:

Patrick
Kim and Howie
Pearl and Micah
Denzel

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Jack's house, there is:

Jack and Denise
Amy
Ricky
Raymond

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Gray's house, there is:

Chelsea and Jordan
Whitney
Felix
Finlay

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Billy's house, there is:

Billy and Honey
Jay and Lola
Will and Janet
Lexi

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Karen's house, there is:

Karen
Mitch
Bernie
Bailey
Keanu (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Sharon's house, there is:

Sharon
Zack
Martin
Linda and Annie

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Kathy's house, there is:

Kathy and Rocky
Bobby

So I assume 2+ bedrooms.

Ben and Callum have their own place I think. Just a 2 bed flat.

Sonia lives on her own in Dot's old house.

Callum's nan Vi still lives above the funeral parlour I think.

Not sure where Sam lives these days. Or Mack and Mia.

Have I missed anyone?!?

Impressive @Meredusoleil

the houses used to be 3 bedrooms. 2 above living/dining room. One above kitchen

like mine

jack and Sharon’s def were 3

slaters turned dining room into bed 4 downstairs

then added 5th in attic

vic has 4. One being small box room as that’s been moaned about over the years

Ian’s now Kathy’s was 2 but had loft extension so now 3

scarlett will go back to Kat

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Eastie77Returns · 26/12/2022 13:19

Meredusoleil · 26/12/2022 11:58

In the Vic, there is:

Mick and Janine
Scarlett
Ollie
Shirley
Ricky (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Phil's House, there is:

Phil and Kat,
Tommy
Bert and Ernie
Freddie?

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In the Slater house, there is:

Stacey and Eve
Jean
Lilly
Hope and Arthur
Alfie (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms. But may be 5 if count the loft room which Alfie was making.

In Patrick's house, there is:

Patrick
Kim and Howie
Pearl and Micah
Denzel

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Jack's house, there is:

Jack and Denise
Amy
Ricky
Raymond

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Gray's house, there is:

Chelsea and Jordan
Whitney
Felix
Finlay

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Billy's house, there is:

Billy and Honey
Jay and Lola
Will and Janet
Lexi

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Karen's house, there is:

Karen
Mitch
Bernie
Bailey
Keanu (on the sofa?)

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Sharon's house, there is:

Sharon
Zack
Martin
Linda and Annie

So I assume 4 bedrooms.

In Kathy's house, there is:

Kathy and Rocky
Bobby

So I assume 2+ bedrooms.

Ben and Callum have their own place I think. Just a 2 bed flat.

Sonia lives on her own in Dot's old house.

Callum's nan Vi still lives above the funeral parlour I think.

Not sure where Sam lives these days. Or Mack and Mia.

Have I missed anyone?!?

Everyone has a 4 bed, even the low income households😭

I thought Karen’s grandchildren Mack & Mia also lived with her. Her flat looks like a 2 bed to me. Maybe the front room doubles as a bedroom. Where is Keanu staying. Her other two boys…do they live permanently with their dads? She never mentions them, they never visit. Btw who/where is Bailey’s mum??

Sam lives in one of Jack’s many houses that was conveniently empty. He said she could stay there for a couple of weeks to “sort ‘erself aht” when Phil threw her out after the Jonah business. That was months ago. I wonder if she’s introduced Ricky Snr to his namesake Ricky Jnr😂

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 26/12/2022 13:20

Shirley isn't a likeable character (understatement) she has gone through many traumas in her life-

Jimbo(son) died
Kevin(ex husband) died in carcrash
Stan(Dad) was an abusive nasty character (died)
Sylvie(her Mum) was an abusive narc then suffered dementia (died ) electrocuted in the Queen Vic
Tina(sister) died -murdered by Gray
Mick(son but only disclosed later in life) now missing, probably dead, though she dis try to drown him in the bath when he was little
Her best mate Heather (died) killed by Ben
She had a long time off/on relationship with Philth

Add to this , relationships with Vinnie (Bobby Davro) not Vinny Panesaar ! and re-kindling the relationship with Buster ("Brushstokes" Karl Howman) wh it turns out is Deano's Dad not Kevin
Deano who is a convicted rapst .
And Aunt Babe who with Heather's mum ran an illicit "Baby Sellling Ring" from a caravan , helped to to hide the fact Mick was her son.

Poor woman, I'm surprised she hasn't spomtaneously combusted !

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 26/12/2022 13:29

Btw who/where is Bailey’s mum ??

Baileys mum died , she was temporarily living in the flat downstairs ( Teds flat before he ran off with Patricks MIL ) that was empty . Baily was her carer trying to manage her Mother and school , then when they moved , Mitch helped .

When Alfie was on Mcks house , I saw there was a window on the upper level so they must have a loft conversion?
And no doubt thought after the hose was refurbished "Oh when we get the new kitchen lets get at least 40 sets of cutlery and three dinner sets 'cos come Christmas we'll be feeding half the bleedin' Square "

Pauline Fowler had the loft done when she lived there but the two original bedrooms were split into 3 . And the house (now Kathy's but owned by Ian?) had a front room that was Lou Beale's then Ian had it converted to a bedroom/utility for Jane after she was shot by Steven

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