SCD '20 #8: Notpool week is coming to an end, as is our last thread and one celeb's Strictly journey...

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I'm not sure 9 pages will last us, so I'm getting prepared a bit early! Check the last thread first before posting here — we might still be over there.

I wish Tess would stop saying and what do you want to say to your partner, actually I wish Tess would leave.

@jambeforeclottedcream

SunshineCake I got the vibe that she'd save Maisie in the DO through gritted teeth.

Oh yes, last week she would have saved Max 🤔

Just caught up. Blimey these threads move fast! Felt sorry for Maisie tonight she looked really sad, it must be horrible knowing the public don’t like her. I don’t think 2 party latins in a row helped either although she danced well. Also I didn’t recognise the song, and as a middle aged woman I’m probably the core demographic. Glad CQ went that routine was terrible, worried Shirley would save her! Don’t know what she saw in it. Mind you she was cringeworthy the whole night!

Emilybrontescorsett totally agree Debbie Mcgeee should have won, her Argentinean tango made me cry! Or if not., Alexandra Burke should have won. I can't even remember the name of that inconsequential little twerp who won it that year, I was so angry!!

Given where Clara was on the leader board I gave her 6 votes (I seem to have 2 BBC accounts - I'm not arguing with that!). And DH gave her his 3.

I wouldn't have wanted to see Maisie, Bill, Ranvir, Jamie or Harvey in the dance off, but I think all of them could have won a dance off (as indeed Maisie did).

By undermarking Clara and forcing lots of people to pile votes on her, the judges left Maisie open to another dance off, in my view, because people were too busy voting for Clara to spread their votes around.

I liked Caroline at first but I have gone off her over the weeks and she was the right one to go this week.
JJ has to be next on the list.
I'm still enjoying Bill. There are better dancers but he's the one I look forward to watching the most at the moment.

Monkseal’s theory has always been that the dance-off sometimes achieves the opposite of what it’s meant to do. If there wasn’t a dance-off and it was simply decided on the combination of judges scores and audience votes then we wouldn’t have been so paranoid about giving All The Votes to Clara, because just stopping her from being bottom would be enough. Since we knew we had to get her up two places not just one we all voted like mad things.

Just spotted new thread, checking in.

@SunshineCake

I wish Tess would stop saying and what do you want to say to your partner, actually I wish Tess would leave.

On Twitter James Jordan's suggestion for Johannes was "Don't ever f*cking lick me again!"

@Skipsurvey

hrvy get's the votes from the mothers, do young people even watch strictly?

My 5 and 7 yo DSs are obsessed

By undermarking Clara and forcing lots of people to pile votes on her, the judges left Maisie open to another dance off, in my view, because people were too busy voting for Clara to spread their votes around.

That's a good point, actually (thought I don't think Clara was so much under marked as let down by rubbish music, routine, costume and make-up - plus there's were overmarked)

Sorry for being a noob but what do people mean when they say “ringer”?

Yes I agree Schaden, Clara was sold down the river by the costume, theme etc. And some others were overmarked. Whichever way I think Clara has more dance talent than that routine allowed her to show!

My 12 and 14yr old don't know who HRVY is. My teens eyes were rolling at the lack of vowels. They know Clara because we listen to radio 1, and they love Bill too.

@Mylittlephonyy a ringer is someone with dance experience. Often trying to minimise or deny the fact that they spent years at stage school having hours of dance training every week.

I wonder if the judges have a feedback session with the producers and reflect on their marking?

Given the, frankly, ridiculous scoring where 9s and 10s are being dished out at will, it inevitably ensures at least one tie on the leaderboard, which drags more couples into the potential dance off ‘pool’.
The judges should ensure some separation on the leader board, marking couples relative to one another, maybe?

At this rate everyone will be on thirty points, and the judges say won’t count until the dance off.

They’re not being very smart given the power they have and the rules of arithmetic.

I probably haven’t worded this as well as I should have! 😀

@ThursdayLastWeek

I voted for Maisie because I don’t understand why people dont like confident young women

So how come people like Kara Tointon, Georgia Foote, Alesha Dixon, Rachel Stevens, Chelsee Healey, Stacey Dooley etc did so well?

On the other hand, there seems to be an extraordinary amount of hatred for arguably less confident middle-aged women on here, even to the extent of projecting reactions from Johannes that simply didn't happen.

@DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes
Aaaah I see! Thank you for explaining! :D

I think I need to make an effort to watch ITT and see Maisie. She dances well, but I tend to forget her routines by the end tbh — there's no 'hook' to connect me to them. It probably hasn't helped that I don't think I've been a massive fan of some of the music she's had.

I want her to doing ballroom in a lovely dress with her hair done elegantly to a nice song next week, although I'll settle for 2/3.

Jamie needs a proper ballroom dance as well — I can't believe he hasn't done any since week 2 (and that was AS, so actually a speciality dance).

Sonebody (sorry, I can't remember who) was asking about JJ's Latin. He's done paso and jive, so none of the "party" Latin. I wonder when we'll get the first rumba?

@GrouchyKiwi

People see what they want to see, I guess.

The only clearcut case of a pro loathing their celeb, IMO, was Aliona with Gregg Wallace, and I couldn't blame her for that.

Brendan and Lulu too

Science that article sounds interesting. I’ve often wondered how Shirley got the gig. She’s not particularly good at being a judge imo. And she’s a bitch.

Gosh that sounds harsh but I’ll clarify. She’s not very nice to some of the females & always seems to single one out.

These threads move so quickly! I missed the last one completely 😂

Good point about Maisie doing too much party latin. She needs something elegant and slow, to prove she's not just a one trick pony.

I would argue moonjelly that they lacked confidence in the beginning.
I certainly remember Alesha Dixon in the DO, the judges telling Rachel Stevens to 'emote more' until her tango and/or rumba (?) and as I mentioned upthread Kara Tointon fell on her arse.

People like a journey right?

Anyways. I think that the way Maisie is judged compared to say Danny Mac the ringiest ringah there ever was is distinctly unfair.

But it’s just my opinion! And it’s why I shall vote for her.