Years & Years

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Starts tonight 9pm
Family drama that flashes forward into the future.

Russell T Davies is from Manchester isn't he

I thought he was Welsh?

I thought he was Welsh?

Yes apparently! Sorry, I'm an idiot. He lived/s there though.

I've been googling and just realised his husband died last year as well, very sad.

No he's not Welsh. He is an Essex boy!

Whoops - sorry - realise you weren't talking about Russell Tovey

@Dulra I'm English and moved to Ireland 15 years and my ignorance of Irish history was absolutely shocking. A steep learning curve for sure. We didn't learn about the Boer War or anything where we (often) were on the wrong side of history.

I don't understand why Edith and Bethany aren't all over the dark web. I bet there would have been all kinds of info on there.

I'm 30 and did not learn about the Boer war at school. I feel very ignorant now. I couldn't have told you anything about it - when I googled it as a result of this discussion it was much earlier than I was assuming given the context on the programme.

Been reflecting on this... I wish RTD had given Viktor some focus to his life other than Daniel; some ambition that he wanted to achieve for himself. Most of the time, understandably, it has focused on his situation, but on the odd occasion where he could have been given a line about something else, it's been about something he read on the internet (North Pole melting; 3D printed village). If he does get out of the Erstwhile - and there was a shot in the trailer of him alongside Edith so presumably he does- we've got no sense of what his life would be. I hope he gets to hang out with Muriel.

Plop I was thinking the same. Viktor is a bit 'token ethnic' - no personality just a pretty face n a difficult situation. All the refugees I've met irl are tremendously strong characters with real drive to establish a career and a life here. Viktor seems very vague and drifty, more like a gap year kid.

growlingbear that's my experience too. I have a friend who now has leave to remain, but he spent years in legal limbo, and had several spells in Brook House (the real-life "Three Bridges detention centre"). Over the years, we've talked about his family, his career, his mental health - his life didn't just begin and end with his refugee status.

I guess Viktor is there less in his own right and more to show the light/shade of the Lyons family's behaviour?

I agree. Although frankly i could look at Viktor all day!

He's not typical of the refugees I've met either, who if anything have an 'excess of personality' because of what they've lived through.

May I leave this here...

Oh no Plop I still see him as the little boy in 'Mr Bean's Holiday' 🤭

DS who is 15 definitely knows about the Boer War and told me the fact about the British coming up with the concept of concentration camps a couple weeks ago when we were watching a documentary on WWII, so I think some schools do it (he goes to a private one and they do go off piste from the national curriculum).

Yes you may Plop Thank you.

He has such a beautiful face Plop.

Thanks plop.

I was a bit confused when a small, goofy looking boy cropped up on the cast list for Years and Years fox think it might be time for him to update his ImDB profile !

The actor who plays Viktor would go down very well in a period drama.

Have skipped whatever’s been said since Tuesday. Am watching ep 5 now. Seven minutes in and - I’m not sure I’ve cried this much as an adult, ever.

Love this series. Definitely think Bethany will be tracked and probably end up in a concentration camp. Edith will perhaps die trying to rescue Viktor/expose the camps.

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Anyone else think viktor looks just like jack savoretti?

Yes a little bit. I hadn't heard of Jack so had to google and helloooo!

I also think Bethany will end up being killed in the concentration camp, and the ending will be similar to the boy in the striped pajamas. Karma for Stephen but tragic.