Years & Years

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Starts tonight 9pm
Family drama that flashes forward into the future.

Stephen went to see Viktor at the detention centre he had been taken to and told him he hated him and it was his fault Danny had died.

Thank you, Captain. Wow. That was a jump. So he didn't get to stay in Danny's flat? What happened to the flat? You'd think that would be a story given how big an issue housing is in the series. If he owned it, his sister in the Red Zone could move in, you'd think.

I imagine Dannys house was sold as part of his estate, Viktor also wouldn’t be able to pay the mortgage and it wouldn’t be suitable for Rosie as he wouldn’t be able to get upstairs.

Do we know how long Danny’s been dead? The house could have just been sitting empty whilst Viktor has been arrested.

I can’t believe the government would just let the cyber daughter do all these things without tracking what she does, so I’d imagine that will be significant next week.

Did anyone recognise the annoying chap playing Woody? He was in a kids 1980s Tv program called Gruey-I used to love that!!

Woody was also in 9 Songs, a non-porn film famous for scenes of unsimulated sex!

Given that they were billeting homeless people with anyone with a spare room I doubt that a house could just stand empty.

I didn't know about The Boer War concentration camps either, I've just been reading up on it 😢

PS - I find it really sad that anyone should think the best way to describe and really shitty mean spirited self absorbed man is saying he is a female body part

Really? 🙄

I did history to o level (showing age!!) but dropped it when I was 15 as I was rubbish at it! Probably because all we did was the bloody ice age, Iron Age, our most ‘up to date’ history was King Henry VIII, never even got to Boer or either World Wars. No wonder I hated it.
I was hoping Steven was going to party to all the information on the camps and then pass it on to his sister but I don’t think he is now he’s put Viktor there.

I couldn’t believe how he ran over that courier’s bike just because he was the same company and none of the others said anything. I sort of thought they’d demonstrated more of a moral compass than that so far. Maybe it was Daniel holding that together though.

I guess it’s showing how things are decaying though and spiralling out of control.

The last episode was chilling. The stuff of my nightmares.

I think it's exactly that, @fedup21 - showing how quickly someone can unravel because of things that happen to them. We started off liking and sympathising with Stephen but now he's falling apart it's hard to feel sympathy (or empathy) for him

And yet if he was real and we were there living it with him then we (as a society) would probably still sympathise with him. We're viewing it from 'the past' where these sort of things are still unthinkable while he's a product of the years and events between now and then.

Very true - and that's the sinister side of it, isn't it?

There but for the grace of God...

Terrifying.

I miss Daniel

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Same

I’m really upset by it...and although the character is fabulous and i love Russell Tovey i think the main reason I cant stop thinking about it is because parts of his personality are just like ds1

The frustration when he was getting upset when everything was going wrong and that evil fucking cunt stole his passport...that would be ds1. And ds1 would know that handing his passport over was wrong but the only thing to do like Daniel knew. And ds1 would know getting on the boat and staying on it was probably a mistake but he’d be so desperate

Its completely irrational of me...the odds of ds1 partner being deported are zero (however much dd might be wishing for it )

Russell Tovey's 'northern' accent was really annoying. Even more than Emma Thompson's. It sounded like Hull, sometimes Leeds, when it's supposed to be Manchester.

Very disturbing, brilliant telly, though.

All those people where the boat is the only plan they have, heartbreaking.

Emma Thompson's accent was supposed to be annoying. Like Nigel Farage's or Donald Trump's. .

Russell Tovey sounded fine to me.

RuffleCrow are you from northern England? It was awful! Really inconsistent, and roaming over the whole region.

I don't think NF or DT have annoying accents. I think they're just annoying.

Do you have to be from a particular region to judge whether or not an accent is bad?

No, but if a Scottish person said someone's Glasgow accent sounded like Aberdeen, I'd respect that, even if someone from Cornwall thought it was fine.

I think the accents in Derry Girls are ok, because my ear isn't tuned to that region. Whereas those from the area have commented how awful they are. So they're probably bad.

I found Russell Tovey's accent distractingly bad.

I get what you're saying but i suppose their target viewing audience is much more than native mancuniuns. If most viewers think it's ok then they probably consider he's done ok. I was watching Mum and just very occasionally Kelly let her rather brilliant accent slip and I thought no-one who hadn't grown up on the outskirts of East London, or extremely obsessed with accuracy would probably have noticed.

As a life time Londoner, I find all the accents sound fine to me 🙂

Russell T Davies is from Manchester isn't he? I'd've thought he'd've intervened if the accent wasn't okay? Is it meant to be a posher accent for the area? All 4 accents of the siblings are quite different, but I thought that made sense because they've lived such different lives.

I am no judge though! Not from Manchester either.

The Boer War is featured in the WJEC English Literature war poetry in 2 Thomas Hardy poems - Drummer Hodge and the man he killed are both about this.

Some students may have learnt about it in recent years?