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HOMELAND- Is that a cucumber Quinn or are you pleased to see us? NO SPOILERS PLEASE WE'RE BRITISH

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TheSpottedZebra · 15/11/2015 21:03

Da.

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TheSpottedZebra · 07/12/2015 13:07

I still think that Quinn will die though. But not straight away. Maybe in Carrie's arms, and we'll get a moving scene, where they e claret love for each other, and Jonas or Tuffers overhears?

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TheSpottedZebra · 07/12/2015 13:08

e claret = declare, obvs. It's in my spy code.

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Lweji · 07/12/2015 13:23

e claret is more likely. At a bar, once they sort out all the baddies. Because he.is.not.dead.nor.he.will.die.

If he was faking it he was very convincing.

He knew all about sarin and what it does to humans - although you have to ask how... - so he could easily fake it.
I was going to say that I doubted the terrorists would have seen people die from it, as I only remembered an attack in Japan a couple of decades ago. However,
"2013: Ghouta chemical attack; sarin was used in an attack in the Ghouta region of the Rif Dimashq Governorate of Syria during the Syrian civil war.[34] Varying[35] sources gave a death toll of 322[36] to 1,729.[37]"
So, thewritters are quite on the ball with this stuff.

And
"Atropine, an antagonist to muscarinic acetylcholine receptors, is given to treat the physiological symptoms of poisoning. Since muscular response to acetylcholine is mediated through nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, atropine does not counteract the muscular symptoms"

So, he will probably have experienced the muscle response to sarin, but will recover in time, presumably.

TheSpottedZebra · 07/12/2015 13:31

Quinn told moral terrorist about Gouta, he told him to Google it and see how awfully people died to ge him to question could he really do that to people himself...

I remember the Japanese attacks. And actually there is a really interesting book (Underground by Haruki Murakami) about the subway attacks, and using the impact on normal people to shine a light on the Japanese psyche and culture.

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TheSpottedZebra · 07/12/2015 13:31

He might not have said Google it. Maybe he said something about looking it up.

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Fiderer · 07/12/2015 16:07

fiftyval is right about the CIA or BND tracing the call from the assassin's phone. Unless as Head Hair of Berlin Station she has an untraceable super spy phone.

Missanneshirley · 07/12/2015 18:18

I like the idea above of quinns frothing being broadcast as a threat, and then Carrie rescuing him. She hasn't appeared to miss him much? !

AmberFool · 07/12/2015 18:34

If he was faking it he was very convincing. Only MNers are better at frothing

Grin best comment I've seen in ages.

We could do with a Ladybird book for Homeland.

Spot on with all the descriptions Grin

A very tense programme. Enjoyed it. Apart from Quinn's storyline. Please stop with how many ways can we pretend to kill Quinn storyline. I did smile at the frothing cos we had Quinn walking around with a bottle of pee and now Frothing Quinn. How many ways can we make him as unattractive as possible? Trying to put us off The Weasel - it won't work! Smile

I guess the next few episodes will be Carrie trying to outsmart the Hair.

Did you notice how Hair's hair was not smooth and slick as she travelled around the train? There was a hint of Baghdad about it.

bearleftmonkeyright · 07/12/2015 19:17

Her current hairstyle is a Berlin bouffant.

Howaboutthisone · 07/12/2015 19:32

That's a really good point about them tracing the call/checking her phone records from the runway blow up moment. Even if she's thrown the phone can't they still get records? Old Carrie v Hair would have been an interesting battle. New, less spy like Carrie would get eaten alive!

Fiderer · 07/12/2015 20:09

Dunno, have a feeling Hair will get away with it somehow.

Thank you AmberFool for recognizing the accuracy and the literary merits of my Ladybird Guide to Homeland Grin

UnGoogleable · 07/12/2015 20:09

Ooh good episode.

Quinn HAD to be faking it, or perhaps just feeling the effects but not enough to kill him. It was grim watching though.

Hair, Heels and Handbag will shag anyone to get what she wants won't she? Poor Teddy Bear Saul, I felt sorry for him. Laughed at all the rest of them just standing there watching her shag on the kitchen counter on their big screen though!

I think Dar will fall for her bluff, but Saul and Carrie will keep watching to incriminate her. She'll trip up soon.

Was anyone else shouting at the TV when Saul was doing this little bit of handbag surgery in the kitchen... in full view of the stairs. I kept thinking we were going to see her feet appear at the top of the stairs.. AAARGh! Inigo Montoya got away with it though, phew!

deadwitchproject · 07/12/2015 20:48

Dar you bloody fool. Don't you dare fall for Hair's bullshit!

Quinn you bloody weasal. Don't you dare die in that chamber! I thought the atropine was only supposed to help the terrorists if there was a leak of some sort. Quinn is in a double sealed chamber so pretty sure he will get the full dose of sarin. How can he survive that? Sad

Lweji · 07/12/2015 20:57

Who bets Dar will end up sleeping with Hair?

UnGoogleable · 07/12/2015 21:04

Oh god the thought of Dar and Hair in kitchen sex scandal!! Shock

sorry the actor who plays Dar

TheSpottedZebra · 07/12/2015 21:04

He probably has already.
She's cunning, she'll have bagged him years ago to keep him on side.

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AmberFool · 07/12/2015 21:46

Boak @Dar sex scene

Howaboutthisone · 07/12/2015 22:13

I was shouting ungoogleable! So was DH!
Dar and Hair- I now have images that can't be erased. Thanks for that! HmmGrin

oneowlgirl · 07/12/2015 22:23

What's the ungoogleable reference about? Have I missed something?

Howaboutthisone · 07/12/2015 22:41

Sorry- that was totally due to my punctuation and cluelessness on how to bold etc on the app! I was replying to a post by Ungoogleable a little upthread.

tomatotoad · 07/12/2015 22:48

What about they guy with the laptop? That's got incriminating stuff on - Alison said so.

Howaboutthisone · 07/12/2015 23:07

I was wondering about that. If the laptop was locked away in a safe surely there's more in it than a photo in banana joe's? Also- that undead bloke was taken in Amsterdam but no one seems interested in trying to track him down at the moment. Surely next episode has to have some info from the laptop or a hunt for the double asset undead man?! Possibly just as Saul and Dar have decided to believe alison, hacker man will find something on the laptop.
I'm also wondering if Düring has slept with hair and is keeping Carrie close for her. Maybe he's the new undead man in her life?!

Lweji · 07/12/2015 23:09

At some point, even Brodie will have slept with Hair...

tomatotoad · 07/12/2015 23:13

Why didn't Carrie hand the laptop over to the CIA?

Travelledtheworld · 07/12/2015 23:32

Pseudobadger is Knob ruthless enough to use Sarin to eliminate the entire Bridge Farm Archers clan ?
(sorry folks having a crossover thread here).Xmas Confused