Homeland Season 5 Trailer!! **No spoilers for UK viewers please!** Title edited by MNHQ

[Hassled]

Here - scroll down a bit.

There's Quinn. There's Saul. There's the old bag-over-the-head routine. It's in Berlin. I am ridiculously excited.

The writers have definitely read some Le Carre - a Swiss hospital and the daughter of an important figures from the "other side" feature heavily (am wary of spoilers) in one of his books.

Sorry last one: Dar is Israeli! So I think he's the traitor, right at the top of the cia. He knows Carrie saw him in the back of the car at end of the last season.

I think the redhead handed the bomb to the Syrian before he got on the plane. I also think she's working for Dar (head of CIA), and it was him who put Carrie on the hit list. i think Saul thinks he has the red head where he wants her but actually he's bring played by her via Dar. She's working with Saul to keep Saul thinking he's in control of his operations but actually he's not, and they're both letting him think that to keep him distracted.

Yep sounds good to me.

Are the HB doctors jogging the ones who rehabbed Brodie after the heroin addiction? They were yum. Were they the same season as Zaf? i thought he was season after?

So presumably at some stage Saul will open the box and see a photo of dead Carrie?

Qwerty - I like the Dar theory - especially as Saul made such a song and dance to Allison about how they go back years and of course Dar wouldn't sell Saul down the river to appease the Germans. I think Dar would sell anyone down the river for tuppence.

Yeah you're right, Surly. HAD (yes, they rehabbed Brodie. And jogged in tight grey jogging bottoms. Good times.), didn't in fact appear with Zaf. That would have been too much.

HBD not HAD

So presumably at some stage Saul will open the box and see a photo of dead Carrie?

Unless they've also killed Dave, and put his picture in the box, for Saul to see - ergo buying more time?

Poor Dave

Someone remind me about Dar being in the back of a car?

Dave never stood a chance, did he?

Dave was fucked either way

Or maybe Carrie dead would be a specific message for Saul

I'm still concerned about the cucumber.
Maybe Dave likes cucumber?

Shame they didn't go after Jeff instead...

Maybe Dave's been saved by this plot to kill carrie? He could be happily carrying on his life as a plumber in stevenage blissfully unaware of the lucky escape hes had.

I never saw the cucumber. Was it central to the plot do you think?

Aww Surly, that's a lovely way of looking at it.
#DaveLives

Coco, the cucumber portion was right on the table in Quinn's lair as Carrie woke up.
He doesn't look like a salady type, and I doubt he was using it on tired eyes.

Ive Googled do weasles eat cucumbers but it wasnt very enlightening.

I'm an optimist

The cucumber was random, wasnt it?

Allison is a traitor. Saul definitely didn't know the plane would blow up.

A hungry weasel would eat a cucumber, I reckon.

See, I miss all the obvious things, and I can't tell an Ivan from another Ivan, but I saw the cucumber.
And I am now fixated on the cucumber.