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The Incident Room (aka The Killing - Thread 2)

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atswimtwolengths · 13/03/2011 16:27

Bring your notebooks, your whiteboards, your clipboards, your pens, your tape measures and your waterways maps to solve the problem of what happened to Nanna Birk Larsen.

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aloiseb · 17/03/2011 23:14

Will have a go at the "time line"..please jump in to correct as I'm sure I am v v confused.Confused.

Nanna plans to go to Berlin with Amir. (says she will spend w/e with friends) She packs rucksack and leaves at station (though, why so small a bag?? mine would have been huge)

31st October: she goes to halloween party but leaves quite soon, seeming happy , as if she's going to see someone she loves.

She cycles to Rama's house to give him some books back - obviously fond of him as a teacher? (maybe once had a crush?)

Is supposed to be going to airport to meet Amir but realises hasn't got passport. Oh I left it in the flat, she thinks, when I was seeing ...[who? troels? Shagaround? a combination?] so she gets a taxi up there

Meets Shagaround in the entrance and he lets her in [evidence that that's what he is doing, in the video which so conveniently appeared in Kund's flat...conveniently for whom? If Bremer, why?)]

At some point she is then attacked and raped in the flat by someone, attempts to defend herself with paperweight but presumably ends up ko'd on radiator. Somebody at some point then takes her, unconscious, downstairs (? lift is broken? could she have gone on her own 2 feet, willingly? eg if she woke up and contacted Vagn the family friend?)

She is then held somewhere with a concrete floor for many hours - long enough to be raped again, bathed,nails clipped and changed while drugged with ether, and long enough to get sores on her skin from floor. [Probably wearing slip by then, not jeans. Whoever did this HAS to be a cold clinical serial killer type...surely someone just working for polical ends, ie to discredit someone, would not manage to get details so honed]

Then we don't know if 1) she escaped, somehow, and ended up running away through the woods, or 2) she was being taken there in the black car and then let out to run through the woods and be chased. If 1) maybe she managed to grab random clothes and the video card and they either fell or she dropped them as clues - which seems quite sensible considering she must have known she was dealing with a maniac by then.
If 2) maybe killer was keeping those things and they somehow fell out of the car? or she may have picked them up from Rama's and they may have then found their way out of her bicycle basket? They were found in a slightly different part of the woods anyhow I think?

Finally she is caught by the man chasing her, is drugged again and put in carboot tied up. (and let's not argue about whether she was drugged or not, i don't want any more nightmares) Presume clean clipped state of her forensics remained clean as mud would wash off in water. You would think there would be something in the car to DNA the killer, though, wouldn't you? [hmmm]

Finally! Just a thought - could Nanna have been the runaway girl Rama was helping? I don't think he has told everything - perhaps TRM is his landlord too.

HTH ??????

Prolesworth · 17/03/2011 23:47

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Blackduck · 18/03/2011 06:47

alosieb I watch Sunday morning holed up in bed with dp supplying regular cups of tea...... I recommend it!

Wolfgirl · 18/03/2011 09:18

another thumbs up for great music.

Fivecentsplease · 18/03/2011 09:33

Somewhere in there Aloiseb , Nana and Amir leave the Birk Larssen house (or somewhere) together and are spotted by a removal man in red, as they leave.

So did they leave together on bikes, and then she take her books to Rama's on realising she had not got her passport... and goes to city hall? Books thing seems even more odd at this point!

All we know is that she went to Rama's by bike, and then got cab to city hall and the flat, all after meeting up with Amir.
This journey doesn't quite tot up - why would amir not go with her? why did she leave the passport so much to the last minute? why take the books back? Why were her clothes all new with prices still on?

Fivecentsplease · 18/03/2011 09:36

Perhaps there were no books - perhaps she had other reasons to see Rama: He still does not have a good alibi, and is the only one with Ether.

Blackduck · 18/03/2011 09:37

Clothes thing - surely that is so her mum and dad won't realise she is running away.

Passport - had she forgotten where it was? i.e. thought she had it and then when she went to get it realised she had left it in the flat?
Books - I am not sure how genuine that excuse was - I think Rama was helping them and he just made up the books thing....

Wolfgirl · 18/03/2011 09:42

Possible answers and some more pondering:

  1. rucksack small, to avoid attention
  2. Do we think Rama helped set up the get away for Amir and Nanna, as well as help Layla get away? Nanna used the returning the books as an excuse to finalise details?
  1. Agree, she then returns to flat to get passport. BUT, how comes it was there in the first place (think we have mused this one before) - Latvia trip perhaps, but then would not her parents have known she was away for a few days?
  1. Video on Lunds door mat... need to think more about that one.
Wolfgirl · 18/03/2011 09:43

Proles... you said...Nanna working at Boils, meets Faust

But did she first not know of Holck\Faust on the internet, then met him at the club after?

Fivecentsplease · 18/03/2011 09:44

So do we think she set off with Amir, on bikes from home, then separated to sort the passport thing, at which point she was either being followed or about to cross paths with her rapist.

Why would they need Rama's help? She had money.

Wolfgirl · 18/03/2011 09:45

Proles... awwrrr, you poor thing. Hope your hand is not hurting!! is your main hand? mind you, I dislocated my thumb skiing once, and man alive, it was inconvenient only using one hand. I found I was ambidextrous though, so that was a bonus! Grin

Blackduck · 18/03/2011 09:47

Rama - safe place to meet?

The internet site was BOILS - their dating site. Not sure Holck ever went into the club (although clearly went to see her there at least once - she talked to a guy in a white car)

Fivecentsplease · 18/03/2011 09:52

The Holck/Olav thing keeps beeping at me : Yes Holck was using Olav to get the flat, but for whom did Olav suppress documents about Rama, allowing Troels to shake hands with a suspect in public?

Was Bremmer running Olav, and is just a really good liar, and therefore is implicated in the whole flat thing?

Think there's more to this than we yet know! Confused

Fivecentsplease · 18/03/2011 09:57

proles I have a vision of you banging your hand so hard against your forehead .......doh! How to explain that to the doctor?

However, a broken hand! YOU are now obviously a suspect.

crunchbag · 18/03/2011 11:21

Sooooooo many loose ends make my head spin :o

Fivecentsplease · 18/03/2011 12:48

The writers are probably muttering into their roll-necks "Av ikke! Sikker de har ikke bemærket at der er bastant inkonsekvens i den skrift?"

crunchbag · 18/03/2011 12:54

I can read that Shock

:o

Blackduck · 18/03/2011 13:01

I reckon they are all watching it on slo-mo replay and saying 'I didn't see that! Who wrote that? So who did do it?' :)

teej · 18/03/2011 14:44

and once again Google Translate is my friend....

five yup, reckon so!

teej · 18/03/2011 14:45

ROFL blackduck

muminlondon · 18/03/2011 16:28

What if Rama never was helping Layla but had been hiding Amir in that attic place? Why should that sweatshirt have been a girl's? So Nanna went to Rama's to MEET Rama? Just a possibility.

So he still lied to Theis.

Fivecentsplease · 18/03/2011 17:03

Maybe muminlondon .But she took the taxi alone to City Hall, and the flat. Do you mean the hidden room, when you say attic thing? Wasn't that at a lock up owned by the associate of Rama? Am I mixing up my hidey holes!

Still not 100% sure about Rama leaving a message in the middle of the night cancelling the biulders. seems very odd......

Still can't work out where the man in red saw "us" leaving from (Amir and Nana). hmmmmmmmmmmm

One big Hmmmmmm, really.

wigwam1973 · 18/03/2011 18:26

Can't remember where I found this (apologies if it was earlier on this thread). For the diehard fans among you....

www.dr.dk/forbrydelsen/#/download

Wolfgirl · 18/03/2011 18:45

wigwam... quite spooky\sureal somehow, eh!

wigwam1973 · 18/03/2011 18:50

yes, but quite cool too, I think. I'm liking the sms message one in particular.