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How do I handle my 14-year-old’s risky behaviour and friendship group?

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Saltnchilli · 27/08/2026 22:26

I really need some advice, I’m at my wits end and feel like giving up on my DS.
He is 14, going into year 10, diagnosed with ADHD and high functioning autism.
He’s generally a good lad, has been bought up with our morales and values, but has always been ‘low level disruption’ and primary and secondary school.

From year 8 he’s ’got in with the wrong crowd’ and as time is going on the behaviours and risk taking are getting worse.
The school first alerted us to the group of lads he’s chosen to hang around with and warned us that he is better off choosing different friends, but it seems these are the types of boys he likes to hang around with and find exciting. Over the last couple of years there have been several incidents that’s the school have called us in to talk about, anti social behaviour in the local shop while in school uniform, one of the group shouting to a female student they wanted to rape her. The other parents are not interested at all and don’t go into the school and just tell them to deal with it. My point being, the school haven’t given up on him-but I think they are close to.

He has done some anti social behaviour, these other boys seem to have no curfew so he thinks he should be out to all hours too, overstepping his boundaries.
We have taken the approach of, not telling him he can’t see these boys, more trying to guide him away and keep the lines of communication open.
He has no hobbies though, will not take anything up, just wants to hang around the streets.

The final straw tonight was he came home saying he’s had the best day ever. They have started 2 fires and been shooting pigeons with catapults and been in an abandoned building with the male owner chatting to them in their showing them his saws and such!! I’ve obviously gone mad on all accounts and all I get it I’m such a boring parent, none of their parents mind. He will not listen to reason about how dangerous and selfish the behaviour has been today so I’ve grounded him, if he can’t sit and talk without shouting or listening, then he is not mature enough to go out on his own.

Part of me thinks what’s the use, if he’s mindset is that today was the best one ever, what use is grounding him, that won’t change what he enjoys.

Im sorry this has been so long, I needed to get his off my chest. My goodness I love him so much, but embarrassed to admit I feel such shame too.

OP posts:
Ophy83 · 28/08/2026 09:04

Could he do similar things in a constructive way with you/your DH?

A martial art may provide him a similar outlet with discipline alongside.

My teenager loves going target shooting and sea fishing with DH. Boys have always been drawn to hunting/bushcraft type activities but there are alternatives that don't risk starting a wild fire or injuring birds and other small animals (round here the kids with catapults seem to swiftly progress to targeting cats or windows)

ImmortalSnowman · 28/08/2026 09:11

If this is real you are not a good parent @Saltnchilli. Your child is a criminal. Starting fires and killing animals. He's a psychopath.

What are you going to do when he and his mates gang rape a girl? Take away his Xbox for a week?

MJagain · 28/08/2026 09:28

Sashimiandhisthunderpaws · 28/08/2026 08:10

Can you channel the dopamine chasing/thrill seeking elsewhere? Maybe something that he perceives as more edgy/cool than scouts/cadets. Parkour, skateboarding, mountain biking, bouldering, climbing, carting. Suggest taking him and another friend (if he has any outside that group) bungee jumping/para gliding.

This.

gentle parenting is going to send him straight to prison or dead.

You need big actions and active parenting right now. Move school. Lock down his phone. Fill his spare time with adventures activities such as the above. Do them WITH HIM. Build you bond and relationship in a way that suits his brain. You can have a great Saturday mountain biking together. Don’t give him the choice; this is what his life his now. Lots of outdoor time, no social media etc.

It will be draining and intense for you. But that’s the level of intervention needed right now.

LeaveMeBee · 28/08/2026 10:02

Can you force a hobby...does anywhere local do FAMILY activities, ie so maybe him and Dad could take up martial arts together or something?

He is clearly a bit of a thrill seeker...look at adrenaline type activities: kayaking, rollercoasters etc.

Also seek out a youth support worker, or ask social services for advice perhaps?
He needs a direction, or he will absolutely be involved in crime, or groomed by older gang members in no time.

He sounds vulnerable and desperate for attention and excitement. He's looking in the wrong places, but trying to get them off that path is really hard.

Headinthecloudsfeetontheground · 28/08/2026 10:14

Hurting animals is considered to be a huge warning sign for serious psychological disturbance. Please get appropriate medical help asap.

MyDogClive · 28/08/2026 11:11

PassTheCranberrySauce · 28/08/2026 07:00

Is he medicated, OP? If not, investigate this immediately. His impulsivity and recklessness are dopamining; meds will be transformational.

I would also move him. We have a group of Year 9 boys who are very counter-cultural at our school, and it’s a hard thing to drag yourself away from.

This. He needs the chemicals his ADHD brain isn’t able to use to help him focus and stop seeking dopamine.

If he is already medicated, he still might need a review to make sure he is on the right dose and formulation that his teenage brain needs.

WyrdHag · 28/08/2026 11:22

Get in touch with school next week and tell them about the escalations over the holidays.

Ask for pastoral/SEN support and see if they have a PCSO liaison officer that could come in and have a word with him.

I'd also want to ask about the possibility of a managed move to another school.

Agree with other re looking at medication is he's not already on it and trying to channel his dopamine seeking into something more constructive.

Make sure you keep an eye on his phone as well as limiting his time out of the house as there is so much scope for him to get into trouble online and still communicate with his friends.

YourLoudEagle · 28/08/2026 11:41

Headinthecloudsfeetontheground · 28/08/2026 10:14

Hurting animals is considered to be a huge warning sign for serious psychological disturbance. Please get appropriate medical help asap.

THIS - very scary behaviour. He isn't with a bad crowd, he is the bad crowd. stop blaming the other kids and their parents and do a bit of soul searching. This behaviour wouldn't suddenly just manifest! I have to admit I have little sympathy - my cat had rocks hurled at it by local youth scum which resulted in his eye being removed, and my son age 14 was on the receiving end of pupils like your son at his school. He got knocked over and had his arm broken - the kid in question has since been excluded and last I heard was in a YOI (not his only offence at school and his behaviours had increasingly escalated). He puts all other pupils at his school at risk. And as for his friend threatening to rape a girl? No words

MNLurker1345 · 28/08/2026 11:50

JuliettaCaeser · 28/08/2026 08:10

The problem with the private school option is the “benefit”
that they get rid of kids with issues may mean it’s your kid that gets expelled. As our friends found.

In my DGDs school 3 such boys have gone since yr 7, now going into year 11. They don’t mess around.

JuliettaCaeser · 28/08/2026 12:51

Which is great for the well behaved kids I agree! But sounds like this lad is not one of them.

It’s a concern the pendulum has swung too far. Our generation has reacted against our parents authoritarian parenting which is good in some ways but fear we’ve thrown the baby out with the bath water. There needs to be some “fear of authority” for the whole system to work. There was before - now it seems there is not and it scares me.

MNLurker1345 · 28/08/2026 13:01

@JuliettaCaeser it is scary, look at
what is happening in Middlesbrough, some of
these boys are 16. I read that the young ones are recruiting younger ones.

Anti social behaviour, disrespect for authority and the NEET situation. What is the solution? I personally don’t see how we can get
on top of it.

We had bad boys when we were kids, school drop outs and such so it’s not new, but I just feel that more could be done then.

Or maybe I have rose tinted glasses on.

itsoktonotbeokitstrue · 28/08/2026 13:04

If my kids were to start harming animals they wouldn’t know what had hit them. I’d go nuclear, grounded, no tech, any pets taken away from them, I’d take them back and look for birds and they would need to take them to get help, or I’d make them bury the dead ones. I’d not let that go at all and I’m a laid back mum mostly. You don’t bully and you don’t harm other living things.

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grinandslothit · 28/08/2026 16:32

Dear OP
But your son is not a lovely boy
He has verbally harassed women in public
Set fires
And shooting at innocent wildlife

So he is not a lovely boy
I think that is something you need to come to terms with

stichguru · 28/08/2026 16:57

He's 14. If he isn't at school, you know 100% certain where he is and he isn't with these friends. Either he isn't with you but you know for certain where he is, or he's with you.

SwimmingInSilence · 28/08/2026 17:07

itsoktonotbeokitstrue · 28/08/2026 13:04

If my kids were to start harming animals they wouldn’t know what had hit them. I’d go nuclear, grounded, no tech, any pets taken away from them, I’d take them back and look for birds and they would need to take them to get help, or I’d make them bury the dead ones. I’d not let that go at all and I’m a laid back mum mostly. You don’t bully and you don’t harm other living things.

So agree with this. If my kids told me they'd hurt an animal there would be serious consequences for them. Harming living things for fun is not thrill seeking, it's psychotic.

Unsexypyjamas · 28/08/2026 17:11

I wouldn't want my vulnerable child spending ANY time with children who think animal cruelty is funny. Not bowling, not anything. 1) Animal cruelty is horrific. 2) Animal cruelty is a predictor of violent crime. 3) How long before it's funny to taunt the autistic kid?

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 28/08/2026 17:12

He thinks injuring birds is the best day ever? ADHD and needing a dopamine rush doesn’t remotely excuse getting excited by injuring living creatures. That’s psychotic behaviour. That’s really worrying.

Linnende · 28/08/2026 17:22

drspouse · 28/08/2026 07:09

He is seeking excitement which is natural for ADHD but obviously totally inappropriate for him and he doesn't realise due to being so immature.

I think we are lucky my DS has not gone down this route as he's very similar but he's very young for his age and is in a specialist school.

Some questions:
Is he medicated? If not, he needs it - it is quite dangerous to be an unmedicated thrill seeking ADHD teen. I'm not sure he will understand the dangers though it's probably worth talking to him, unless you think he'll just see fires/driving fast/buildings collapsing on him as exciting too. Of course they all think they are immortal at this age.

Who pays for his screen time? I'm guessing you. Is it earned? Or just seen as a right?

What are his responsibilities around the house?

You do seem to be asking him to do appropriate activities not telling him.

My DS is reluctant to do sporting and active things but we make things non negotiable and screen access is conditional on doing them. And now he likes them. We don't ask his permission for how we parent him. We offer alternatives but he has to pick one.

He clearly isn't mature enough to be in contact with these boys so remove the means of contact.

I couldn't have put it better myself👏

Linnende · 28/08/2026 17:29

Would home schooling be an option?
I think he needs to be removed from any bad influence, including grounding and removing his phone or computer for a set period of time. You are the parent and you need to take control of this situation. If you allow him to continue, sadly his bad behaviour is likely escalate and he is likely to end up in prison. Longer term, if he has a record, very few people will want to employ him.

ButtercupYellow26 · 28/08/2026 17:42

Strict state boarding school.

Puffalicious · 28/08/2026 17:45

wanderingwillows · 28/08/2026 03:25

He’s still a child and, wildly unpopular though you might be, in my opinion you need to parent him as if he is perhaps younger than he is eg enforcing earlier curfews, making him do a sport like boxing or something the perceives to be risky and fun. You need to (as best you can) take the reins before he’s totally out of control by being much stricter and not tolerating it. He obviously thinks you can’t/wont do anything if he’s coming home and reporting his bad behaviour to you

Yes, have you seen the chart that shows the emotional & social age of a child with adhd? Seek it out, it will surprise you. e.g my 19 yr old with Audhd is listed as 13/14 emotionally. It really resonates. As much as he's at uni (commuting), has a p/time job & is bright & mature in many ways, in other ways he's a tantrumming toddler with all the risky behaviour of a 13 year old. He drives me to distraction vaping & will NOT listen to reason. At least he's only vaping (recent arguments as he's tried it out the window & I won't tolerate it), but your DS is dopamine seeking in dangerous ways.

If you can move, move. Also get him into karate/boxing/rugby/mountain biking/climbing/surfing/ Duke of Edin/Scouting/ camp craft. I have 3 boys & we have all of these things in our armour. Anything to get the dopamine surging.

You need to actively parent. He can't get out with friends if he's doing stuff with you or wider family. Get away for weekend days/ go camping/ meet up with family/friends/ plan his days & nights. It's hard & needs effort, but you need to try.

I teach secondary & see SO many boys like yours. It never ends well. We have too many drug running & causing crap in the community. Are there any charities you can get in touch with? Many of my pupils are in a boxing charity/ cycling charity club/ one which does outward bound.

MNLurker1345 · 28/08/2026 17:47

ButtercupYellow26 · 28/08/2026 17:42

Strict state boarding school.

Gosh if only. Do they exist?

anonMH · 28/08/2026 18:40

Ok so as the parent of an AudADHD child (albeit different issues) - these are my thoughts.

consider meds but they can cause more problems for kids who have autism too. But seek a referral to CAMHS/ ND team. Or look at private intervention- if you were considering private schooling, this could be an option.

ND children are emotionally younger than their chronological age, but can conceal this because cognitively they appear their age , if that makes sense. But I think you need to respond in some ways as if he were younger - certainly in terms of boundaries and freedom.

Decent quality food and exercise can make a huge difference. If he is living on crap, as many teenagers are, you need to address it and ensure he has a balanced diet, lots of protein, minimal UPF etc.

What is his sleep routine like? We used melatonin for a while - initially prescribed privately and now we buy it but she only uses it as and when. She likes a bit of nurturing in the evenings - if she is still wound up, I may run her a bath with nice oil/ magnesium salt / candles/ talking book. Or bring her toast / hot chocolate in bed without asking. She still likes it when I read to her (she is 14 and more than capable of reading ).

I would be sitting him down and talking to him. Tell him you love him and you are not prepared to see him on the road he is on which will lead to prison or whatever - be totally upfront about the risks. And that consequently, things will be different. You are going to agree a new routine as a family that he contributes to and that does not involve him hanging around the streets.

He can either choose some things he wants to do or you can choose! I would be looking at:

Martial art - maybe Muay Thai or something like that. Not boxing - it’s aggressive. But kick boxing or cross fit is ok. Chat to some local instructors- you are looking for a bloke who can talk to boys on their level but also be strict etc. I would look for a very small group, or 1:1 - even PT.

IME, team sports for ND kids is a no go! My daughter boulders - but I go with her - that’s really important. Great for strength etc. If you live somewhere with choice , go for a smaller one, or a more serious one. In our area, were have a large noisy one that’s full for kids, and one that is generally full of young, earnest adults who really encourage her. It attracts a nice crowd.

i don’t know much about cadets , but my nephew, also with ADHD and autism, loves it.

i also go hiking with my daughter and wild swimming. Somewhere interesting with caves etc. Or we explore abandoned areas. She will often choose or plan routes. Depends what is accessible to you though. Ooh and nighttime walks to look for foxes or scare ourselves silly!

Board game cafes as a family? Or if he has any nicer friends? The ones here do decent pizzas and are open in the evenings and can be a lot of fun.

We meet as a family every Sunday evening and plan the week. Including the menu, activities, family film nights etc, who has what on etc. All written up. Pictorial routine can be really helpful! We had one until she was 12 or so - a step by step routine and weekly plan.

Lots of time with both of you.

Try and explore what he likes and what underpins what he doesn’t like - eg, anxiety, noise/ light / crowd sensitivity- I wondered this as he is roaming the streets. Eg , my daughter doesn’t like group / team activities or too much noise or crowds.

what does he use his phone for? Is it closely monitored - it needs to be. No tech in his room.

education - what is he studying? What does he enjoy? Do you know what his curriculum contains for next year? Engage with him about it. Read the poetry and English texts too. See theatre and film adaptations and swap views on it. Same with the other subjects .

Look, I know you can’t drag him to things or lock doors. You have to try to engage him - show him documentaries or films that depict the risks of the road he is on. Hang out with him for a bit first. Muck about! Play! Be curious about him - why does he like them , what does he like about what they do? How can that be replicated more safely.

Community involvement and responsibility. Does he see you and his dad get involved with this? Taking a bag with you to collect rubbish? Shopping for a neighbour?

I would be clear that it is non negotiable and that any money, monitored screen time etc is to be earnt. He should be doing jobs, but should be able to contribute to what he wants to do. So my daughter hates smells so no bins or litter trays but she is good at cooking and dusting. But I wouldn’t cancel planned activities- even things like cinema trips. He needs to see alternative ways to spend his time.

Lots of praise when earned.

If he doesn’t comply, I think I’d take him out of school for a month, go off sick, and book a remote cottage somewhere very rural with hiking, books,
games , no WiFi etc. I know it sounds mad but it seems to me to be a combination of getting to know one another and keeping him safe/ breaking a cycle.

I have waffled on and on - but I hope some of it is helpful. It is still a challenge for us as a family but we are learning. Communication is key!

KittyFanesParasol · 28/08/2026 19:23

Cadets now, Harrogate at 16. Zero tolerance needed, not gentle parenting.