Not allowed to talk about anything to do with DD's school on any social networking sites.....

[StarlightMcKenzie]

And I have to sign something to say that a)I won't, and b)I acknowledge I could be prosecuted.

Any thoughts?

I'm a bit worried about sending dd to a school with such a gagging order.

And, have I just breeched the terms and conditions already?

Second question:

Is MN a social networking site?

It seems very OTT. Prosecuted for what, exactly?

We were simply reminded not to say anything we wouldn't say openly, face to face.

Plus, the kids' school is on twitter, anyhow!

I'm not a lawyer so this is only my opinion. I would say that MN IS a social networking site. But I would refuse on principal to sign anything to say that I won't post. If it is a complete T&C with various bits and pieces which you have to sign, I would strike-through those clauses, and initial your strikethrough.

Sounds bollocks to me. IIRC only the CPS can prosecute. They just don't want people moaning on facebook.

I suppose I could do that. Not keen to fall out with a school dd isn't yet attending though.

I bit annoyed with them any how because they have given us a date for home visits and stated that they cannot be moved under any circumstances.

When I phoned up to tell them that I could not make that date because it was ds' first day in his new class at his SS, and we had been asked to accompany, the answer was short and sweet 'then you won't get a visit'.

Bloody inflexible, intolerant bunch. I imagine I will have quite a need to write lengthy posts about them in the future.

Is MNSN a social networking site or a support group, or an informational forum?

Hmm, I'd strike through those parts as well. They really mean Facebook and other sites where the information isn't anonymous, I guess.

Perhaps clarify that you use information forums where the information is general and anonymous, but you won't discuss the school on Facebook?

Just got an email saying that they will not be rescheduling dd's home visit.

BAD start.

First, as others have said, prosecuted for what precisely? There are , of course, laws on defamation but if you are telling the truth and not identifying anyone, that's not relevant. There are laws on data protection, but again, if you are not in a position to release protected data, no relevance there. Very odd.

Secondly, Mumsnet is defined on wiki as a website with discussion forums. Wiki defines a social networking site here

However, MN describe themselves as "the UK?s biggest social network for parents".

Thirdly, how on earth do they think they are going to 'police' this? Seriously Spy on people??

Fourthly, what happened to freedom of expression??

I don't think you are being difficult to ask them to clarify their comments about people being prosecuted as this is very intimidatory.

I've got bigger fish to fry seemingly.

Their refusal to change the home visit time as a 'reasonable adjustment' to accommodate a situation arising from disability.

Damn it! We CHOSE this school for dd. Starting to regret it.

So I can reword it to state I will not use names nor lie but reserve my right to freedom of speech.

I think you can say I reserve my lawful right to freedom of speech - end of.

Quote the EHRA at them - I think one of the first clauses is freedom of speech!

Also the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Wankers.

From the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights -

Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

They have an ASD unit, a SENCo AND an INCo.

You'd think they'd get the fact that I am expected to accompany ds with ASD to school on his first day and therefore am not available for dd's home visit and make the fecking REASONABLE ADJUSTMENT of giving me another time.

And besides, I have quite a bit of information they OUGHT to know about dd as a young carer, that I am unhappy putting in written form.

Grrrrrrr

Thank you Bluebird.

What a funny school

You know what is really sad?

DD has had such a wonderful year and so have I, schoolwise. Her nursery teacher (attached to another school, not this crazy one) has hugely restored my faith in teachers and I was looking forward to dd's school career. Now I am dreading it.

UNDHR not enforceable in this country. If you want to quote enforceable law, quote the Human Rights Act which implements the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 10 sets out the right to FoE.

This is a qualified right which means it is not absolute and can be limited by law but if you use the word 'lawful' that covers you.

You know what?

I'm not sure I can do this again. I called the council and confirmed that dd would be first on the waiting list at another outstanding school (the one she currently attends at nursery) should I email them and request she is put on it.

Just need to speak to dh and think on it.

However, as some of you know by now, I always have to have a plan B. It helps me be brazen in my determination to make Plan A work.

Dammit ie, you've ruined my budding career as 'internet 'uman rights lawyer for hire'!!

Make all the inquiries you can Star until you feel comfortable. I would be put off by that

Bluebird - happy to explain the distinction between international treaty law and domestic law to kick start that HR career!!

Can your run a MN academy on it?

You know I'm so pissed off I want to cry.

Perhaps I can make an assumption that the decision stuff about not moving home visit date (which I think is fairly important for us due to dd being a young carer and some concerns I have for her that may impact on her learning), is just a jobsworth office bod thing and if I request my email is raised to the HT there may be more accommodation!?

Then again I wonder if there will given the HT probably sanctioned or instigated the gagging order.

just dont sign it, what can they do? Im sure it doesnt form part of the local LEA admission process.

Fck'em I say, Fck'em!!

Do you think your dd will be ok without a home visit, if so dont worry, just saved yourself some extra tidying up ;)