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Why so much hate on MN?

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Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

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EasternStandard · Yesterday 18:39

dreamiesformolly · Yesterday 18:34

Posters will always want them to do more to make the site align with their views If that's your view, presumably you're including yourself in that statement?

No I’m happy with it as is. I want posters to be free to post from all political parties. No bot accusations, community notes, deletions for personal attacks are fine.

I find the bot accusations are more likely against some posters and I’m happy mnhq delete those too.

It’s a site without algorithms and where people don’t always agree, I’m happy with that.

BunfightBetty · Yesterday 18:39

dreamiesformolly · Yesterday 18:35

It isn't always deleted though. And no, I don't just mean stuff I personally dislike.

What, you reported it as hate and they didn’t agree it was hate and left it up?

Can you link to any, so we know what you mean?

I’ve never seen anything genuinely hateful stand after a report. Distasteful or hurtful - yes, there’s a fair amount of that. But hateful - no, love never seen that. I’ve personally reported racist posts and they’ve been deleted.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:03

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Change all of this from Jewish to Muslim and all hell would break loose. What was that somebody was saying yesterday about calling out racism when they see it. So you are gaslighting Jews trying to tell them who they are and what they should stand for?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Yesterday 19:12

BeckyAMumsnet · Yesterday 14:44

Thanks for raising this, @Oncetwicethreetimesmore

We do understand why some discussions on Talk can feel confronting. Mumsnet is a broad public forum, so there will be strong disagreement on political and social issues and we won’t remove a view simply because other people strongly dislike it.

We do remove posts that are racist, or otherwise hate speech, as well as
personal attacks, deliberately inflammatory behaviour and posts that are simply seriously unpleasant. We know that moderation can sometimes feel inconsistent from the outside, particularly when people have seen only part of the context but please do keep reporting specific posts that you think cross the line as that is much more helpful than reporting a whole thread or a general type of opinion.

Just a reminder to everyone here - please don’t publicly accuse other posters of being trolls, bots or part of a coordinated group. If you have concerns about a user, report to us and leave us to investigate.

This thread is in danger of becoming an example of the problem it is discussing, so please keep the focus on the posts and arguments and not on each other.

@BeckyAMumsnet , you say you remove posts that are racist. I would suggest that you remove some posts which are racist. It is evident that you don't remove all.

Obviously, I don't know if this is because your moderators aren't trained well enough to recognise racism when they see it, because MNHQ believes that people should have the right to express racist views to a certain point or simply because the racist posts generate more discussion and therefore more advertising revenue. But it simply isn't true to suggest that MNHQ deletes all racist posts.

FlirtsWithRhinos · Yesterday 19:21

dreamiesformolly · Yesterday 18:17

Personally I'm not defining hate as things I don't personally agree with. I'm referring to genuine hate, because unfortunately some posters do post hate, the genuine sort. Just wanted to emphasise that.

To clarify, what do you mean by "hate"?

I think the trend of the last twenty years or so to dismiss other people's anger as some sort of free-floating hate unconnected to the context in which that person exists is one of the reasons politics has become so fractured and ineffective.

Schlossadler · Yesterday 19:25

Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

Nope, disagree with you.

The Labour government are utterly terrible, hence the valid criticism.

No hate.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 20:10

I’ve never seen anything genuinely hateful stand after a report.

How would you know? I don’t announce it when I’ve reported a post.

BunfightBetty · Yesterday 20:11

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 20:10

I’ve never seen anything genuinely hateful stand after a report.

How would you know? I don’t announce it when I’ve reported a post.

I was talking about my own reports. They’ve always deleted them.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 20:13

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 20:10

I’ve never seen anything genuinely hateful stand after a report.

How would you know? I don’t announce it when I’ve reported a post.

But if you reported it and it remains, MN has deemed it not hateful, no? Along with other reports.

JaneJeffer · Yesterday 20:14

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 20:13

But if you reported it and it remains, MN has deemed it not hateful, no? Along with other reports.

That doesn’t mean it’s not actually hateful

EasternStandard · Yesterday 20:16

FlirtsWithRhinos · Yesterday 19:21

To clarify, what do you mean by "hate"?

I think the trend of the last twenty years or so to dismiss other people's anger as some sort of free-floating hate unconnected to the context in which that person exists is one of the reasons politics has become so fractured and ineffective.

A lot does get lumped under this. Some men target mn on this basis. They’d be happy to drive women off altogether. Thankfully it doesn’t work.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 20:16

JaneJeffer · Yesterday 20:14

That doesn’t mean it’s not actually hateful

🤷‍♀️ well what do you want MN to do? Posting isn’t compulsory.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 20:18

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 20:16

🤷‍♀️ well what do you want MN to do? Posting isn’t compulsory.

It does seem like there's some effort going into telling mods how to do their Job. Don't get the answer you don't like, keep pushing and rephrasing until you get your way.

BunfightBetty · Yesterday 20:19

JaneJeffer · Yesterday 20:14

That doesn’t mean it’s not actually hateful

Can you give an example?

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 20:25

JaneJeffer · Yesterday 20:14

That doesn’t mean it’s not actually hateful

Precisely. Equally I’m quite sure not every hateful post gets reported. It’s like Whackamole sometimes.

JaneJeffer · Yesterday 20:28

BunfightBetty · Yesterday 20:19

Can you give an example?

Not allowed to

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 20:30

EasternStandard · Yesterday 20:16

A lot does get lumped under this. Some men target mn on this basis. They’d be happy to drive women off altogether. Thankfully it doesn’t work.

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Some men target mn on this basis. They’d be happy to drive women off altogether. Thankfully it doesn’t work

I agree. I suspect that some of the extreme right wing stuff that is posted is from men. The sort who are out slashing dinghies right now and getting their children to chant hate.

BunfightBetty · Yesterday 20:30

JaneJeffer · Yesterday 20:28

Not allowed to

Oh, are you not allowed to say which thread/page?

I’m not sure I’m fully au fait with the TAAT rules.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 20:36

EasternStandard · Yesterday 18:39

No I’m happy with it as is. I want posters to be free to post from all political parties. No bot accusations, community notes, deletions for personal attacks are fine.

I find the bot accusations are more likely against some posters and I’m happy mnhq delete those too.

It’s a site without algorithms and where people don’t always agree, I’m happy with that.

You were right about what MNHQ response would be on the thread.

MadellineBellPictureMeGoneNS · Yesterday 20:38

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 20:30

Some men target mn on this basis. They’d be happy to drive women off altogether. Thankfully it doesn’t work

I agree. I suspect that some of the extreme right wing stuff that is posted is from men. The sort who are out slashing dinghies right now and getting their children to chant hate.

You got it bang on extreme right
The rhetoric is no different from the NF,BNP,C18,Blood and Honour.
The methods change to get the message across.
But the message has never changed.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 20:41

MadellineBellPictureMeGoneNS · Yesterday 20:38

You got it bang on extreme right
The rhetoric is no different from the NF,BNP,C18,Blood and Honour.
The methods change to get the message across.
But the message has never changed.

No I was thinking of the men who don’t like women talking about women’s rights. The ones who target the actual site in an effort to close it down.

Thankfully they’ve failed and mnhq are good at seeing threats off.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 20:42

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 20:36

You were right about what MNHQ response would be on the thread.

These threads come up with the same claims.

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 20:45

EasternStandard · Yesterday 20:41

No I was thinking of the men who don’t like women talking about women’s rights. The ones who target the actual site in an effort to close it down.

Thankfully they’ve failed and mnhq are good at seeing threats off.

Yes, those too. But I think mnhq haven't quite got to grips with the far right flavour of men yet.

JaneJeffer · Yesterday 20:45

AccidentallyWesAnderson · Yesterday 20:16

🤷‍♀️ well what do you want MN to do? Posting isn’t compulsory.

Yes person who posted hateful stuff wasn’t compelled to do so but they did to no consequences.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · Yesterday 20:48

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