Has The Royal topic been disappeared?

[Peasepuddingbloodycold]

And if not, it looks as though I've hidden it. Can anyone tell me how to unhide it?

It was ill fitting. In reality the waistband needed to sit at least an inch higher, the hem adjusted to it would lay straight, the puffed shoulders reduced as they were too big. Once you start adjusting these it affects the rest of the dress, meaning it’s easier to remake (not from scratch but taken apart/ measured/cut/sewn). This is what should have happened.

if you look at Charlottes compared to the Canadian bff daughters dress they look quite different. Her skirt flairs out- Charlottes doesnt. I think it’s been taken in at the waist and it’s lost some of its darting. It’s lost all volume. It looks unlined too. The bffs daughter fits perfectly and looks great. Charlotte and some of the other girls dresses look at least a size too big and don’t look great. I don’t understand why there wasn’t a fitting. Seems odd. I don’t know anyone who has had flower girls and not had them fitted for dresses (even if was just bought from monsoon and checked that it’s the right size)

I'm not up to speed here, as I'm another one who's hidden the RF topic but am agog to know what happened to it - but Becky's meme is Justine, isn't it?

if you look at Charlottes compared to the Canadian bff daughters dress they look quite different. Her skirt flairs out- Charlottes doesnt. I think it’s been taken in at the waist and it’s lost some of its darting. It’s lost all volume. It looks unlined too. The bffs daughter fits perfectly and looks great.

Maybe they didn't go & see the fitter or he ran out of time?

But yes where is the Royal topic?!!

As someone who sews, I can't understand how these dresses never fit in the first place. They're no-expense-spared dresses made especially for the occasion, they should be near perfect first go.

Ooh I love that "pre populated sentences"

No idea what it means though.

can someone link the Justine with a cricket bat
it was funny

Or you could read it as two people who aren't on the same wave length and have rubbed each other up the wrong way over a much longer period - one for being a bit bridezillia and ordering the other about and the other being wound up by the tone and expectation that she do every demanded rather than politely communicating.

You could say that and it may well be true but I'm only going by what the texts said and Meghan didn't show to be a bridezilla. On the other hand, the "I already told you" shows that Kate already knew what to do with the dresses so why ask again? Because she wanted all the dresses to be remade?

For me it looks like people who don't know how to talk to each other more generally and it reads even worse on text. If that's true it's not really about dresses at all but the relationship at a deeper level.

Yes I agree. I said so in my post - they both sound annoyed with each other already (and both obviously have their reasons).

I thought it was Justine, yes.

The hem was criminally bad.

@AutumnCrow do you think there are bots representing both sides?

(I've not been looking massively closely)

No, that's not how a seamstress/dressmaker would look at it. For instance, I had a dress refitted. It is the same dress, it just fits now. It was not just taking a bit in here and there, though. Nor was it dismantling and resewing the entire thing. It's not something just anyone could do, as it's well beyond "tailoring".

Frankly I am shocked by so many aspects of this. Who made these things in France with measurements only? It really reflects poorly on the maker. And that it was so very last minute. Also that they didn't have someone on hand with the skills needed to truly fix the problem.

Mostly shocked that M or K had to deal with this at all. Wasn't anyone project-managing this whole thing?

I think both were a bit harsh with one another, but it sure as shit shouldn't be global news that two women sent a few terse text messages.

That ain't Justine

Yeah, exactly.

To be fair if my niece was upset I'd be kinder to her than Meghan was. I don't have anymore context of this conversation though! But I wouldn't want my niece crying!

I think that she probably has enough staff that a nanny could have taken Charlotte and sorted it.

Possibly - but I've no idea about Kate mental health or physical well being after the birth - what else she had on - whether she'd need to be there or child would be happy with nanny as they'd just got a new sibling and make be needing parents around for reassurance (my kids didn't but some do). I don't know how bad the dress was.

I also wonder why if Megan was so stressed she didn't delegate dresses and wedding to some of her staff and maybe ask Kate to contact one of them and not her.

I do know despite the great tailor being on standby- the dresses on the day look very poor - and many commented and assumed they hadn't been professional designed, made and fitted. The fabric was subsequently blamed as being too thick - which TBH frankly is astonishing as you'd expect that to be part of design process.

@JaneJeffer
aw shucks
justine

Hence why the girls should have been fitted and the dresses not made from measurements. Couture dresses you have at least 2 fittings. At least. They get the dresses in to try them on kids 4 days before the wedding? I’ve never known anyone to do this re flower girls. You have to pay particular attention to the fitting of the dresses as kids can grow between fittings. It why it’s important.

If MNHQ are reinstating the RF topic will they be able to find out why it disappeared?

Haha this is the meme to end all RF MN memes

i have found it

You would think do.

Well, she was going to go stand around at her dressmaker?

@AliceOlive I was being facetious, I understand dressmaking. Taking a dress apart & "rebuilding" it is not an easy or quick job. Agree that the dresses shouldn't have been like that in the first place though.

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