Any chance of a review of the FWR moderation rules in light of Maya Forstater's success in court please?

[ViperAtTheGatesOfDawn]

The belief that transwomen are men and that transmen are women has been accepted as a legitimate and protected belief, yet we are not able to state this on Mumsnet under the current rules.

It has become increasingly difficult to discuss feminist issues on the dedicated feminism boards as a result of the moderation rules.

In light of Maya's success in court, and that 'gender critical' beliefs are considered protected under the Equality Act, would it be possible for the FWR sex/gender mod rules to be re-visited please?

Seconded.

Hear hear!

Agreed

Yes!

I agree it does seem appropriate to review the rules now.

Glad to see this thread.

I rarely contribute on this site these days.

This is because I consider the rules constricting the expression of fundamental feminist beliefs not only amount to censorship but also create a hostile and degrading environment for women with feminist beliefs - or any women who are able to recognise material reality for that matter.

I hope MNHQ thinks again in the light of this judgement and reconsiders both the rules and the application of them.

Common sense must prevail.

I had no idea we weren’t allowed to say that transwomen are men and vice versa.

I think this is a discussion that needs to be had. I can (up to a point) understand the difficulty in trying to find the right balance on discussions here, but the moderation on this is certainly very difficult to navigate. Clarity is definitely something that would be welcome.

People write that trans women are men and that trans men are women all the time on MN and they aren't deleted.

Hi - just dropping in to say we'll discuss this in the virtual MN office.

@Nellle

People write that trans women are men and that trans men are women all the time on MN and they aren't deleted.

No, they don't. We tie ourselves in knots not to do that. But feel free to post screenshots if you're so sure of yourself.

I agree, well said!

@soniamumsnet

Hi - just dropping in to say we'll discuss this in the virtual MN office.

Thank you.

Good idea

Well said. I have been wondering about this.

Agreed!

Agreed, although to be fair to MN it is one of the only spaces online where women have been allowed to discuss this, despite the talk guidelines sometimes getting in the way of making a point clearly.

It’s the actual law. So would be good for MN moderation to reflect it.

Thank you, MNHQ.

Thank you for at least discussing it MNHQ!

This is really important.
That statement isn't in itself offensive.

No, thank you. AIBU would just be inundated with transphobic threads disguised as "Feminism" topics.

I think this is a great idea. I would like to think that it would stop some posters calling women discussing their rights as transphobic but I doubt it

Good idea