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Has anyone seen my mojo?

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Palavermalarkey · 22/08/2026 16:49

Not sure whether I should post this in Mental Health or here tbh.
I'm 65, I've just retired from a job I was in for over 40 years, it wasn't always the exact same thing & for the first 20 years or so I really enjoyed it even though it was often very stressy. I wasn't ambitious, didn't get promoted much, didn't care. Certainly never wanted a job in management, I thought they were awful & anyway I liked my role (in tech) & my workmates too much.

I was one of those annoying people who tells others, including my DCs, "get a job doing something you love, then it doesn't feel like work." Yeah, great advice, except when they change your job without warning, all the enjoyment goes out of it & you're slogging along with everyone else, doing it for the money. Last six years since the pandemic have been really awful & I've been ready to go for ages; I got voluntary redundancy (much to my surprise; I had no respect for management & they knew it) so I should be happy. And I'm really trying to be, I know I'm bloody lucky. Healthwise, I'm not too bad - lots of minor stuff rumbling on but nothing serious.

Trouble is, I'm completely stuck. I've got various ideas as to what I might like to do now - mainly writing or podcasting ideas - but I'm procrastinating like crazy. Basically, I'm afraid I'll fail at anything I try to do. After all, who the hell cares what I've got to say? I was pretty good at my job imho but now I seem to have lost confidence completely. People suggest hobbies to me but the very word makes me cringe. Most of the suggestions I've had sound like a way to just numb yourself until you shuffle off; I miss doing work that felt consequential, even if the workplace had become crap.

I went for therapy after some pretty horrible work events & it helped me detach but now I just feel isolated. Turns out my work friends - mostly a little bit younger & still working - were just that: friends at work. Super difficult to get anyone to meet up, even for a coffee, everyone's too busy. Two of my closest work friends, ones I felt were proper lifelong friends, have emigrated, one of them very recently, so I'm a bit lonely tbh. Sigh, I know this is very much a first-world problem, but has anyone felt like this or come through this sort of thing? - and if so, stories please on how you got your mojo back.

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Payfrozen · 29/08/2026 08:34

Palavermalarkey · 27/08/2026 15:50

A job in which I thought I was making a difference but in reality was only a cog.

@barometerneedle I've had this thought a thousand times. But I now believe both things were true. When I was working, I made a difference. I'm a sound guy; I started in film but mainly worked in radio. Most of my colleagues, upon retirement, hark back to major events - elections, Olympics, royal marriages & deaths - as a way of saying "I made a difference"; "These were my finest hours." But the exact opposite is true. I've been part of those broadcasts and I was never more of a cog in the machine. No individuality, creativity or personal qualities are required or could possibly be exercised. You're one bum on a seat amongst hundreds.

If I'm satisfied at all about anything, I'm satisfied that I got up at 3am for the umpteenth time & shepherded a regular, non-event, workaday programme on air for three or four hours. And someone - especially the lonely or the unwell - listened in and got companionship & connection to the world through their radio. And they heard every word as cleanly as possible, thanks to me - most days! Lots of hearing-impaired people out there, lots of people listening in their kitchens getting the kids ready for school or making breakfast. Kettles are boiling; they need good, clear speech, not stupid amounts of noise and music obscuring what's being said before it's even left the loudspeaker. Not that anyone showered me with praise for any of this, quite the opposite! But I knew I was doing a good job so I guess I provided my own validation. 🤷🏻‍♂️

So, I'm not there now; someone else's bum is on my seat & I'm largely forgotten. I sometimes yell at my unknown successors when things get inaudible. Keep your hands on the faders, for fucksake! There were about eighty people in my department, all doing the same job as me. I trained some of them; some trained me. The place was managed mainly by pretty lazy, mediocre people, and still is. I suspect lots of workplaces are. So I was both making a difference AND being a complete and utter cog, simultaneously.

I think this is the sort of issue Tolstoy was trying to get to the bottom of in the battle scenes in War And Peace. How history says Napoleon did this or that and, as a result, this Great Man won this or that battle. But Tolstoy brings the multitude of individual soldiers' actions into it, their courage and fear, the miscommunication, the fog of war. The cogs.

What I want - and maybe you too? - is to carry on having a shot at making a difference. Writing a book. Making a podcast. Passing on what knowledge and experience we have, maybe - though that's going out of fashion. We might succeed - by which I mean, actually get them written - and we might not, but at least we won't be cogs any more.

But here's the rub as I see it. I suspect that, ironically, it was my very "cogdom" that provided a vital prop for my confidence. To be honest, I didn't NEED confidence - I just had to do what was in my job description ffs. I only needed diligence & I had that in spades. Not the same thing at all. But I suppose that also lets me off the hook in a way: if whatever I was doing at work wasn't about me being confident, then at least I don't have to lament its loss. I never had it. So my mojo wasn't really lost; it was actually a different animal. Dunno if that helps either you or me! 🤷🏻‍♂️😁

I've enjoyed your thoughts about being a cog AND making a difference, that both are possible at the same time.

I've had an all consuming job in health. I was so looking forward to retiring but now it's much closer I'm more ambivalent than I expected to be. Not enough to change my mind though and I think my health will suffer if I keep going which makes no sense now I don't have to.

I remembered that I already volunteer with a great group of people for a creative festive event which builds up from September. Our local little theatre has lots of volunteers so I might think about that in future.

I really appreciated what you said about ordinary programmes having quality sound when I kept having to turn the volume up and down during Ludvig. Might treat myself to tv speakers.

LornaDuh · 31/08/2026 08:29

I really appreciated what you said about ordinary programmes having quality sound when I kept having to turn the volume up and down during Ludvig.

I automatically put subtitles on when I watch anything on Netflix. The sound is generally shocking. Don't have that problem with The Archers!

Doozycan · 31/08/2026 08:49

24Dogcuddler · 22/08/2026 17:24

It’s sad that you had some negative experiences towards the end of your career. You need some time just to process that and try to draw a line under it.

Sounds like your confidence has been knocked and it’s currently preventing you from feeling positive or trying new things.

Why not write a list of all the things you wanted to do whilst working but didn’t have the time? Reading, gardening, pampering, walking, travelling? You could learn a language or instrument or maybe try Yoga or Tai chi.

You could try some journaling to collect your thoughts. Just take some time to get used to doing what you want to do before making any big decisions.
If you want to meet people look at volunteering or you could look at U3a

https://www.u3a.org.uk/

Only responding to Yoga and Tai chi no no no its all demonic. Thats it its open you up to spiritual realm of the darkness been there done that and many other new agey things.

TreesOfGreen99 · 31/08/2026 09:07

@Palavermalarkey i was struck by your comment re motorhome beds. Have you been to any showrooms and looked at motorhomes?
No converted car seats but lots either pull down beds, or 6ft long flat seats that convert very quickly to a bed.
I admit I’m biased, we bought a 7 year old MH last year and have loved the freedom and independence it gives us - both still working so can only use it for weekends currently but still managed to go away in it 7 times this year (so far)!
Recommend you go take a look, it may surprise you 🚐

Musicaltheatremum · 02/09/2026 11:30

I think I've met my soule mates on here. I retired 3 years ago and honestly it's been so hard.
I go to the gym 4 mornings a week but I've not anything else really to do so I procrastinate and go on Mumsnet!
I did take up french for a year but it wasn't that good so I stopped. I occasionally meet people but my friendship group is small. I had hoped to have grandchildren this month but my daughter miscarried twins so I'm struggling.
My husband is 5 years older than me and was made redundant just before he was going to retire. Financially great but he's very happy reading whereas I just can't settle and I'm in a phase where I'm quite down now and feeling useless as I can't get my mojo going.

I still have my dad who is 2-3 hours away and I visit every few weeks.
We've lost the other 3 parents in the last 4 years and my fils properties are taking time to sell.

I think my job was so busy. I was a GP and despite the public's perception of us I have never worked so hard as I did during COVID and up to retirement. We were in tears regularly at work as we were so busy. I think I'm a bit burnt out from it all to be honest.

So what do I do? It's hard.

cheapskatemum · 02/09/2026 15:47

@MusicaltheatremumI am so sorry for your loss. Do take care of yourself and your DC at this sad time.

barometerneedle · 02/09/2026 23:26

Musicaltheatremum
So very sorry for your loss. Devastating.

You may well have experienced a burnout after all that hard work. I often imagine it must be very difficult to retire from such a compassionate job.

I am about to join a gym and hope I stick to it.

No answers I'm afraid as in a similar predicament.

I have spent a good deal of my life bringing up 3 dc, wide range of ages so this has been my central focus. And apart from one interest, all other interests have disappeared or not been developed. I'm not participating in this one interest currently and feeling lost without it.

I have two other things at play potentially - CPTSD and the effect trauma had on my childhood development. I may be choosing to do things for the wrong reason and they do not align with me possibly.

And, a possible neuro diversity. ADHD and boredom (add up.) However, it is suspected I have autism. Overlapping traits probably. I find it difficult to relax. Currently trying to unpick what is happening. I hope I can bring about changes.

Small friendship group. Very grateful for the two very good friends I have but need to enlarge my social network. I suppose you've got to try things and hope somehow you will have fun doing the activity and even better align/have that sense of mutuality with someone else who is participating.

Palavermalarkey · 02/09/2026 23:59

despite the public's perception of us I have never worked so hard

Yes, I saw that survey last year. 77 percent of the British public do not believe GPs work hard enough. Sigh, people are so credulous. They can't get an appointment so they prefer to assume it's because the doctors are putting their feet up. Because it's so much more satisfying to be able to focus your grievance on an actual person than on the shortcomings of a system.

The same kind of propaganda is pumped out about teachers. Y'know: "they only work 9 til 3 and they get all summer off." I know loads of teachers; my wife was a teacher & downskilled to a TA because of the stress. Teaching is one of the toughest jobs there is. Management - who've all been teachers themselves & should know better - regularly schedule workloads that simply cannot be achieved in a day. Squeezing a quart into a pint pot is absolutely standard in most schools these days & has been for years. Yet these beliefs persist.

Please don't listen. Sensible people know perfectly well what pressure the average GP is under. Sounds to me like you burned out, no "think" about it. And I'm sure you know all about that! I burned out too, but from neglect, not overwork. I think the end result is pretty much the same, though. You can't just hit the ground of retirement running & start doing something else. I've been giving myself a hard time for being unable to do that, but it's madness.

You need to unwind & you probably need help to let go, as in talking therapy. I would be in pieces without counselling; I was in denial about so much. Everything was someone else's fault, so why the hell should I have to change MY behaviour? What about THEM?! I couldn't see that, by staying where I was, suffering stress from trying to effect change & getting nowhere, I WAS making a choice. Namely, to stay, and suffer some more. It's Therapy 101: you can't change anyone else, only yourself. But damn, did that feel so unfair. I fought it, but my therapist gently let me see it wasn't a battle I could "win".

Maan, going from GP to what feels like zero must be hard. I mean, I thought my job was fairly consequential but I don't think it compares. And you've had plenty else going on. I think you need to get to a place where your mind can experience some quiet. My bet is, there's medical stuff whirling round in there still, at 100mph. Re your daughter's situation if not anything else; I'm so sorry for you both. You need silence, or the nearest possible equivalent.

I go out walking early in the morning, because I'm naturally an early bird & it's cool enough to get some miles in without overheating. The extra blood supply really seems to clear my mind. That's when I do all my important thinking, away from the clamour of everyone & everything else, and I only have the noise inside my own head left to deal with. I talk to myself, and when the conversations get interesting, I record them on my phone. Later, I get the transcripts (recording apps do them automatically now) & make them into "mental health notes". They need a bit of editing down, but that's part of the process: boiling down my thoughts to what's important.

No big answers yet, it's a work in progress. But I don't believe solutions - too strong a word, but hey - are going to come any other way. Bottom line is, you have to take as much pressure off yourself as you can, otherwise you'll never stand a chance of understanding true things about yourself, it'll all still be expectations driven by duty, guilt, shame even. Finding out what your old mojo was & what your new mojo might consist of. I'm learning that they are pretty different things. 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

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Palavermalarkey · 03/09/2026 15:56

@lobeydosser Yep my employer began with a couple of Bs. It wasn't all bad; the 90s & 00s were good. Did a lot of work on Radio 5 Live, it was a genuine rolling news station then, not like now.

@LornaDuh @Payfrozen Don't even start me on bad TV drama sound! Everyone's putting the subtitles on, even me. Otherwise you're straight-up just missing dialogue. There are a whole bunch of reasons for this but the top 3 are:

  1. Poor voice production by actors / direction by directors. I'm far from saying everyone should pro-JECT like in theatre, but mumbling does not equal realistic or naturalistic. Christopher Nolan, I'm looking at you.
  2. North American accents. I love American voices but it's a feature of US & Canadian speech that some sharp consonants - notably T - get softened to a D sound. "Bitter" becomes "bidder". There's a lot of elision too: syllables sliding into each other. Brits do it too, but not as much. We're all familiar with the drawl. The 10 syllables of "What are you going to do about it?" become 5: "Whuh yer gon' do bad?" Add music & sfx and you've got an inaudible voice track.
  3. Everyone reads the script. For a post-production sound mixer, this is fatal. Once you've seen the words written down, you can no longer assess whether dialogue is unintelligible or not. Your brain tells you it's understanding everything just fine. But viewers don't get the script! Oh wait, now they do - in the subtitles (unless they're the dodgy kind that use speech recognition). Sigh, sound recordists might as well stay home.

Sorry, I said I wouldn't rant. 🙄🙄🙄

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