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Considering whether to say goodbye to an abusive mother before she dies

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StrangePastStrangeFeelings · 03/10/2026 08:46

I’m struggling, not with processing what happened to me growing up but what to do now in regards to my mother.

She was hugely abusive to me from a young age. She added in very random days of being absolutely lovely and wonderful to me (I never know was this deliberate to cause confusion and destabilisation or that she had a disorder and had some ok days).

I suffered a lot. When I see my daughters now happy or having fun , or something small like getting a new outfit and feeling that they look nice and then being proud when I compliment them I’m taken back to how I was treated and it makes me feel so sad for the younger me , told I was hideous and made to feel worthless. Imprisoned repeatedly, severely emotionally abused and very very occasional but when it happened very severe physical abuse.

The thing is I feel I need some kind of closure but I’m pretty much NC apart from very occasional texts. I feel as if I need to see her at some point even briefly as I know she’s in poor health and I want to say some kind of goodbye as there is no chance of me going to a funeral. I don’t know why I feel the need to say goodbye? I don’t know how to approach it at all.

OP posts:
HoraceCope · 03/10/2026 08:50

i think since you are asking the question
you will regret it if you dont say goodbye

who else does she have to sort out her personal effects?

StrangePastStrangeFeelings · 03/10/2026 08:53

HoraceCope · 03/10/2026 08:50

i think since you are asking the question
you will regret it if you dont say goodbye

who else does she have to sort out her personal effects?

My siblings do all her care and are in control of her finances etc

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SpryCat · 03/10/2026 08:59

Will your siblings lay on the guilt too? If you visit your mum, make it short and sweet as you know she will either make you feel guilt. I’d tell her you love her in spite of how your relationship was with her and then go.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/10/2026 09:03

I thnk the same. Awful as she was, if you don't say goodbye there may always be an itch.

But if you go, plan it out.

How will you react if she is apologetic? (your own reaction may surprise you - it may be too little, too late, or it may be healing)
How will you react if she doubles down?
How will you react if she completely ignores you?
How will you react if your siblings are unpleasant/pleasant towards you?

Saying goodbye is hard but the older I get the more I have the feeling that something deep within remains somewhat uncompleted if we don't bid our parents some sort of farewell, however difficult it is and however unpleasant they were and are.

cartagenagina · 03/10/2026 09:04

I had a very similar “childhood” and am completely NC with my mother.

I won’t ever put myself in a position where she can have one last opportunity to abuse me.

When she dies, if I outlive her, I will feel relief that she can’t hurt me (or others) ever again.

What do you think your meeting with her would be like? Do you have an image in your head? How likely is it that she will be abusive?

StrangePastStrangeFeelings · 03/10/2026 09:06

cartagenagina · 03/10/2026 09:04

I had a very similar “childhood” and am completely NC with my mother.

I won’t ever put myself in a position where she can have one last opportunity to abuse me.

When she dies, if I outlive her, I will feel relief that she can’t hurt me (or others) ever again.

What do you think your meeting with her would be like? Do you have an image in your head? How likely is it that she will be abusive?

This is my worry that she will get one last chance to say something and hurt me. I want to just try and get in and out quick to see her and say goodbye but not get into any real
conversation I just feel I need to say goodbye to her when she’s here not go to a funeral to ‘say goodbye’ if that makes any sense at all? It probably doesn’t

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Newgirls · 03/10/2026 09:06

Has she reached out to you? Has she shown any sign of being a better person? Has she had therapy? Why do you think the meeting would go well? The risk is that but won’t and you will feel even worse

FckThisShit · 03/10/2026 09:07

I don't want to say goodbye to my mother before she dies, I don't even question it. The fact that you are could mean that you feel it's something you need to do? There's no right or wrong answer here op. If you want closure and want to say goodbye I'd do it and just be secure in yourself that you did do that. It'd probably be better than regretting not doing so.

FateAmenableToChange · 03/10/2026 09:21

If you go you do need to be prepared that she’ll take the opportunity to stick the knife in one last time. Maybe she won’t maybe she’ll say sorry but the former is more likely imho. So it’s up to you, if she is nasty can you write it off and be reassured you were right to have nothing to do with her. If she’s nice can you walk away with no regrets. You need to know on yourself that this is all possible and no matter what you will be ok. Or you don’t do it and possibly live with some regret. Sorry OP there is no winning answer here, just what you can best live with.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/10/2026 09:22

StrangePastStrangeFeelings · 03/10/2026 09:06

This is my worry that she will get one last chance to say something and hurt me. I want to just try and get in and out quick to see her and say goodbye but not get into any real
conversation I just feel I need to say goodbye to her when she’s here not go to a funeral to ‘say goodbye’ if that makes any sense at all? It probably doesn’t

It makes every sense in the language of the heart.

flapjackfairy · 03/10/2026 09:28

would a written goodbye be better ?
You can say what you want or need to without any attacks to upset you.

Wish44 · 03/10/2026 09:34

Hi op, do you want to say goodbye or do you have a secret hope that she may apologise or be kind?

I am low contact with my father but I know I have a secret hope that on his death bed he will be loving/kind

CrotchetyQuaver · 03/10/2026 09:43

If she's likely to say
something nasty on her deathbed to you I would skip it. However if you are now strong enough to respond in a similar vein if she does then go for it.

My mother was unable to speak at the end but still able to make it clear she was indifferent to my presence but looking forward to my brother coming back. Unfortunately for her he didn't make it back in time.

StepAwayFromTheLaptop · 03/10/2026 09:54

If you feel you need some kind of closure, then you should do what feels right for you. You could send her a letter or a text; you could visit but tell her in advance you only have 5 minutes and perhaps write a script that you read to her while you're there; or you could not engage with her at all and get your closure by going to therapy or talking it all through with friends.

It's 10 years since my mother died and I haven't once regretted that I didn't visit her during the two weeks she was dying in a coma in hospital. But I had been completely NC with mine, so I always knew that she would die without us resolving anything and I was at peace with that. You're not NC if you're still exchanging occasional texts so you might feel the need to do something.

reallyagainplease · 03/10/2026 09:57

If you don’t go, you can’t change that, so the question is would you regret seeing her before she dies?

whistlesandbells · 03/10/2026 10:07

I think this depends on how robust your own mental health is and how you feel about the situation overall. If it will tip you over the edge by doing it then I would advise you not to because once she is gone, that is it. There is no going back, no do-over. That is also a form of grief you may encounter.

If you can see it in a different light and think it will bring you peace then it is something to consider. Is she still abusive now, is there a risk you will have a conflict situation right at the very end?

StrangePastStrangeFeelings · 03/10/2026 10:12

Wish44 · 03/10/2026 09:34

Hi op, do you want to say goodbye or do you have a secret hope that she may apologise or be kind?

I am low contact with my father but I know I have a secret hope that on his death bed he will be loving/kind

Definitely not 100% because of how she was when I was a child she would often have a day or sometimes two where she was lovely to me , apologetic for abuse and treated me beautifully, so I know her apologies and niceness are fake. She would be horrible 90% of the time but these odd times when she was the absolute opposite but it wasn’t real.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/10/2026 10:16

What would you hope to achieve from such a meeting?. Deathbed apologising from the abusive parent happens more often than not only in movies and she could well try and put the boot in. Where was your father when she was abusing you?. Do you have any sort of relationship with your siblings now?. What do they say?.

Your mother was once young and abusive and now she is old and abusive. She has not changed and she has not apologised nor has accepted any responsibility for her actions.

What happened to you was not your fault in any way: that is all on her. You owe her nothing let alone a relationship or visit here and she does not appear to be at deaths door.

Get therapy and grieve for the relationship you should have had rather than the one you actually got.

I would also suggest you contact NAPAC as they are very helpful to those abused in childhood. Read the Well we took you to Stately Homes thread on these relationships pages. That is how you can get a sense of closure here, not by visiting her.

Bridgertonisbest · 03/10/2026 10:25

cartagenagina · 03/10/2026 09:04

I had a very similar “childhood” and am completely NC with my mother.

I won’t ever put myself in a position where she can have one last opportunity to abuse me.

When she dies, if I outlive her, I will feel relief that she can’t hurt me (or others) ever again.

What do you think your meeting with her would be like? Do you have an image in your head? How likely is it that she will be abusive?

This is exactly how I feel. Even if she begged to see me, I wouldn’t go. It’s too late for apologies and she’d probably want to attempt to twist the knife even further anyway.

a few words on her death bed are meaningless.

LlynTegid · 03/10/2026 10:30

Your siblings are ensuring care while your mother is alive and you know that a funeral will be arranged upon her death. I assume that your siblings know why you have almost no contact. Your mother knows you are alive and perhaps how you are doing.

Acknowledge that there is no easy answer. I think don’t visit.

TheeNotoriousPIG · 03/10/2026 10:53

I would only go if you were strong enough to withstand anything else that she could throw at you, were unlikely to cower like you were a small child again, and if you felt that you would regret it.

My abusive parent didn't apologise. My only regret (and bearing in mind that I was a child at the time) was putting up with being made to visit him in hospital as he was dying. I felt nothing but relief when he died, and it's remained that way since.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 03/10/2026 12:56

Hi OP. I was in a similar position with my mum. I went no contact with her about ten years before her death.

I won't go into the details of all of the abuse, as it's very long, complicated and traumatic. But I had clung on to the fantasy for most of my life up until then that she was a good mum, that she loved me, and that I just kept disappointing her.

During the time that we were no contact, I did undertake some therapy. I'd also been told by one of my cousins, and I'm very low contact with all of that side of the family (don't have anyone on my dad's side) that my mum was in a specialist dementia care home. She'd gone in there around four years before she died.

About eighteen months before she died, I made the decision to go and see her as part of my continued mental health recovery and emotional and spiritual development. I had to be sure that I was in a solid and robust enough place to be able to deal with whatever I was going to experience at that meeting.

I didn't know whether she was going to recognise me and know who I was, whether she would berate me for not going to see her before, or whether she would try to pull me back in with emotional manipulation and crocodile tears. I really had no idea what her reaction was going to be.

So I went into the meeting knowing that I had a clear escape route. I'd driven there, and I said to myself that I could get up and leave at any time if my mum became verbally abusive. That was my backup. But it was really important that I went into that meeting with no expectations, completely open-minded and open-hearted, and ready to respond rather than react to whatever I encountered.

On that first meeting, she did recognise me initially, but she was very confused about how long it was since she'd seen me. She didn't remember that I lived four hours away. I think in her mind she'd gone back to when I was much younger, and so was she. At various points in the conversation, she clearly lost track of who I was.

I did know that she was hardly having any visitors. The only person who visited on a semi-regular basis was one of my cousins who lived nearby. The rest of the family hadn't been to see her for a long time.

I'm glad that I did go, because it was actually a really transformative experience for me personally. I was able to let go of the remaining fear and resentment that I had been carrying towards her, and I was able to see her for the first time as just another human being.

From that day forward, I began to think of her not as a bad person or an evil person, but as a suffering human being who had chosen to pass on the pain and fear that she lived with to her children. That didn't excuse any of the abuse, but for the first time I truly understood that I was not responsible for any of it.

There was never going to be a version of me who was feminine enough, pretty enough, ordinary enough, straight enough or conventional enough to have been worthy of her love, because she simply wasn't able to give that. The fault didn't lie in me. It lay within her and in her choices not to address her own trauma, and instead to pass it on to me and to my sister as well.

After that first meeting, I did continue to go and see her when I was in that area of the country. I was also able to be there the weekend before she died, as the care home staff had told me that it looked as if she was very soon going to pass away.

She wasn't able to talk on that occasion (I'm not actually sure whether she was conscious or not) but I sat by her bed and read some poetry to her, which I knew she loved. It was something that I was able to do as a human being for a fellow human being who was suffering and soon going to die. It wasn't something I did because I felt that it was my duty as her daughter, because she had given up any right to that kind of consideration through her actions during my life.

I'm glad that I did see her before she died, because it has brought me a huge amount of peace and self-acceptance.
My sister chose not to visit her, and I don't know whether that's something she regrets now or will come to regret, because unfortunately we're no longer in contact either.

Whether or not you choose to do this with your mum is entirely your decision, and only you can make that judgement call as to whether you are strong enough to go into that meeting and take whatever is thrown at you. There is no obligation to do it simply because she is your mum, and my experience doesn't mean that yours would be the same.

But whatever you decide, I do wish you all the best. 💐

Mischance · 03/10/2026 13:13

I am going to suggest that if you can afford it you get some counselling prior to making the decision.

It is such a fundamental experience, poor mothering, that does stay with us for life. But we find ways of putting it into perspective and your joy in your own children and your own good mothering is just one aspect of that. So hats off to you for that.

There are several factors here

  • What matters is your well-being - not your mother's. You need to be feeling strong to go on being the good mother that you already are and to be at peace.
  • Do you know from her texts if your mother wants this conversation? If not, then, however inadequate she was as a mother, there may be nothing to be gained for either of you by having it, especially if she is ill and vulnerable.
  • What is your relationship with your siblings who are involved in her care? Might they be happier for you to stay away and fear that a difficult conversation with you might make their care role more difficult?
  • Do you risk becoming estranged from your siblings?
  • What is it you want to say to her? If you do decide to meet, you need to be really clear in your mind before going. Casual superficial chat or something more profound?
  • What is your hoped-for outcome from this?
  • What are your concerns about meeting and about not meeting?

I do think that you need a counsellor to share these thoughts with and to help you make the decision that is right for you and that you can live with going forward.

I had a difficult relationship with my mother, but not at the level of targeted cruelty that you are describing - just inadequacies that made my childhood hard. I never went NC but just saw her irregularly. For what it's worth I decided never to confront her with my feelings about it all - I just went with the flow and kept things superficial. That felt right at the time for me, although I do of course very occasionally wonder if it might have been right to give her the chance to explain herself before her dementia set in.

Whichever choice you make you will always question your decision. The key is to try and decide which will bring you the most peace.

I am sending you strength in making this choice.

TheSmellOfSea · 03/10/2026 13:18

How awful you went through that 💐

Was she like this with others?

I'm glad you have your own family now. Only you can truly know if seeing her would set you back?

speakball · 03/10/2026 14:38

hi op. i was nc with my father. i took the last time i saw him as the last goodbye. but i didn’t realise it was into much later. he said something that was particularly spiteful and wounding and a very deep level and i just said ‘i have to go’ kissed him on the head and left. and that was the last time we had contact.

in terms of saying goodbye. part of the pain is knowing you can’t have that sort of conversation with her. she doesn’t have the furniture in her head to see things from above and from a distance like most people do. she won’t be thinking ‘oh it feels important that op is here, i’m going to make sure she gets the absolute best of me to remember me by’ and you’re right to accept it could just be another opportunity for her to harm you? my dad was always unkind to me but he couldn’t admit he wasn’t perfect and therefore had no ability to see that the relationship was and still was just terrible pain. he was never going to be able to work with me to have a good ending. if he could, if he had any of that depth, we wouldn’t have spent a life time as strangers.

its not easy is it op, this thing with unloving parents is a bit of a git and goes through stages and changes and you revisit things and then come round the back of it before feeling like you’re starting all over again. hang in there trust your inner wisdom will slowly shape something thats feels manageable and honest.