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How do I manage bills fairly with a financially careless husband?

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the7Vabo · 11/09/2026 22:39

Together for 16 years. Two young primary school kids. Just breached my own standards by screaming at DH in front of kids. Feel bad but mainly utterly exhausted.

Im higher earner. I earn about 30% more than DH for 4 days. He works 5.

He is useless with money. He doesn’t know how much any of our bills are. He transfers me a certain amount each month. All our direct debits come from my account.

We have had several conversations over the years. He can often be dismissive with a “money is worthless” comment without really engaging with what I’m saying. I recently had both of us go through our income & outgoings, and it turns out his personal spends are much higher than I expected, and much higher than mine. He said he would do better etc but nothing changed other than I told him go up the amount he was transferring me which still isn’t 50% of our bills.

I need to do a big exercise where I do an education piece - set up a joint account and show him exactly how much is going in & out. But I’m utterly exhausted. I am the only one who plans anything when it comes to money.

Things came to a head tonight because DD wouldn’t brush her teeth. I got really stressed because I recently had to pay a huge amount to get her crowns. I told him how much the bill was. He never even asked how I came up with the money. He got really angry at me tonight for not letting DD skip brushing her teeth starting audibly saying it within earshot & I lost it. I asked him if he was going go come up with the money for more dental work and if he’d even noticed that he never asked me where I got that much money.

That’s just one example. I feel like his parent when it comes to money. Like he’s living at home and paying his mother rent money but completely switching off after that.

He never makes a plan. I’ve paid for holidays and he doesn’t acknowledge it.

He gets a company car with his job which costs him in BIK. I drive a banger and hardly spend anything on myself because I want to prioritise the kids’ futures.

He hasn’t gotten a pay rise ever in his job which he does work very hard at to be fair. He’ll moan but has never tried to get a better paid job.

He also works in credit - he approves loans. That to me is the biggest joke because he looks at other people’s spending all day and he doesn’t even know how much his own mortgage is.

Any advice welcome but please don’t tell me
go pool finances, there is absolutely no way I’d do that with him.

I have also accepted that he is never going to do anything at all proactively about money so I need to implement any changes.

I need advice on how go run a joint account - rainy day savings etc. in a joint manner. And how to move past someone being so bloody child like about money.

OP posts:
BuddhaAtSea · 11/09/2026 22:41

I sorted mine by divorcing him.

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:41

Any advice welcome but please don’t tell me
go pool finances, there is absolutely no way I’d do that with him

Why not?

BatshitIsTheOnlyExplanation · 11/09/2026 22:42

He works in finance but has no idea about his personal finance. OMG that is a disaster.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/09/2026 22:43

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:41

Any advice welcome but please don’t tell me
go pool finances, there is absolutely no way I’d do that with him

Why not?

Because he'd spend the mortgage money, probably.

Divorce will be cheaper and less stressful in the medium term.

Sodthesystem · 11/09/2026 22:43

You know it’s weaponised incompetence right?

Like he isn’t actually stupid, he just wants you to pay for everything so he pretends to be stupid.

Work out how much his half is. Tell him every month a direct debit is to come to you for that amount.

add in an extra £150, or whatever you think is right, to cover unplanned for expenses.

He sets up a direct debit and that’s that. No more arsing about. He’s a piss taker.

Sodthesystem · 11/09/2026 22:44

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:41

Any advice welcome but please don’t tell me
go pool finances, there is absolutely no way I’d do that with him

Why not?

I mean, becuase she’s not completely fucking nuts, presumably.

the7Vabo · 11/09/2026 22:45

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:41

Any advice welcome but please don’t tell me
go pool finances, there is absolutely no way I’d do that with him

Why not?

Because I am not fool enough to pool finances with a man who both earns less & spends more than me.

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HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:47

the7Vabo · 11/09/2026 22:45

Because I am not fool enough to pool finances with a man who both earns less & spends more than me.

That alone probably means you should split up then. I couldn’t be with someone I couldn’t trust not to risk the roof over my DC’s heads on personal spending…

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:48

Sodthesystem · 11/09/2026 22:44

I mean, becuase she’s not completely fucking nuts, presumably.

Yeah, but I think OP needs to be honest with herself then. I can’t imagine staying married to someone who is such a financial risk you couldn’t pool finances with. I get it’s choice for a lot of couples, but necessity due to fecklessness of one person in the relationship is an entirely different kettle of fish.

the7Vabo · 11/09/2026 22:50

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:47

That alone probably means you should split up then. I couldn’t be with someone I couldn’t trust not to risk the roof over my DC’s heads on personal spending…

I don’t necessarily think he’ll risk the roof over our heads. But neither an I giving him access to more money.

OP posts:
coodawoodashooda · 11/09/2026 22:52

BuddhaAtSea · 11/09/2026 22:41

I sorted mine by divorcing him.

This.

Sodthesystem · 11/09/2026 22:54

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:47

That alone probably means you should split up then. I couldn’t be with someone I couldn’t trust not to risk the roof over my DC’s heads on personal spending…

Realistically, as a woman you shouldn’t ever give men access to your money. It’s cool that you want to take that risk. But it is ALWAYS a risk. And it’s just not necessary.

Loveofeclairs · 11/09/2026 22:55

Difficult to give specific advice without knowing the numbers, but go through all household expenses together then get him to transfer you half every month. Whatever’s left from his wages is his to spend. You take the same out of yours to spend on yourself, whatever’s left put into a savings account in your name.

the7Vabo · 11/09/2026 22:56

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 22:48

Yeah, but I think OP needs to be honest with herself then. I can’t imagine staying married to someone who is such a financial risk you couldn’t pool finances with. I get it’s choice for a lot of couples, but necessity due to fecklessness of one person in the relationship is an entirely different kettle of fish.

We have two kids. I’m not going to divorce him. I need to find a way to manage now.

I’ve tried the talking. It didn’t work. I’d try again but I physically don’t have the energy to do it all again when I know he won’t change.

I let things slip for years where I just covered - covered more than 50% of the bills, covered holidays, covered random stuff like emergency dental bills.

I need to muster up the energy to take more money from him for our outgoings in an organised way that is transparent to him. I need to force him to understand what our outgoings look like.

OP posts:
IngridsLittleToe · 11/09/2026 22:57

Divorce him. Honestly it's the best decision you'll ever make.

IngridsLittleToe · 11/09/2026 22:58

the7Vabo · 11/09/2026 22:56

We have two kids. I’m not going to divorce him. I need to find a way to manage now.

I’ve tried the talking. It didn’t work. I’d try again but I physically don’t have the energy to do it all again when I know he won’t change.

I let things slip for years where I just covered - covered more than 50% of the bills, covered holidays, covered random stuff like emergency dental bills.

I need to muster up the energy to take more money from him for our outgoings in an organised way that is transparent to him. I need to force him to understand what our outgoings look like.

Good luck with that. He will not change.

I suspect he'll divorce you one day and march off into the sunset with his new bride who "doesn't control his finances" using yours to fund his new life

TenTenTenAgain · 11/09/2026 22:59

Financial incompatibility kills relationships. Obviously how much you're willing to tolerate is down to you , but it appears that you don't trust him with money. That's huge.

HopAroundLikeKangaroos · 11/09/2026 23:00

Sodthesystem · 11/09/2026 22:54

Realistically, as a woman you shouldn’t ever give men access to your money. It’s cool that you want to take that risk. But it is ALWAYS a risk. And it’s just not necessary.

That paints it as very one sided. I have just as much access to DHs money as he has to mine. I hate the idea of our ‘own money’ when we are a team in every other aspect of life. But we earn roughly the same and, importantly, are on the same page when it comes to spending vs saving. Which doesn’t seem to be the case here.

Scottishskifun · 11/09/2026 23:07

Both sit down and create a spreadsheet with all family costs. Martin Lewis has in depth budget ones for categories.

Include holiday savings, birthdays, Christmas per month etc.
Then total it up and do the ratio split based on monthly income each. Set up a joint account and all bills go from there with a standing order to different savings pots for holiday, Christmas from it.
Joint account isn't to be touched for anything else.

I earn more than my DH and have found the ratio split is the most even. We then keep our own accounts for spending as we spend and save very differently. I've found this way keeps the peace.

k1233 · 11/09/2026 23:18

The only way to force him to be aware of your finances is to sit him down and show him on a regular basis. Make himcontribute enough so you both have similar amounts of spending money after bills.

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 11/09/2026 23:19

Have you ever stopped to consider that your husband is diabolical at numbers.finances etc because that is how he is built?
I have awful discalculus. If I could avoid adding up and taking away...I certainly would. But I live alone, so have to make the effort. Rather than you having to do it, get together, put it into chatGPT and see what it says.

CountryGirlInTheCity · 11/09/2026 23:26

I’d get both of your salaries paid into one main pot where all the family spending comes from (mortgage, bills, holidays etc). You might have to manage that in the short term. You can also set up savings accounts for money to be diverted into from this account to save for holidays and longer term stuff like university for the kids or future house repairs or extensions. Once that’s set up it should run itself as long as you’re diverting unspent income into savings each couple of months. If you put a good chunk of it into non instant access savings it will have to stay untouched and you can build up some financial security.

Then each have personal accounts with a smallish but realistic amount going in each month for personal spending. That way personal spending is fair and has tight limits. The main pot isn’t for personal spends at all so your DH can’t cause too much chaos.

The downside is of course that you’ll have to set up and manage it yourself at least to begin with because he clearly hasn’t got a clue. But hopefully curbing the over spending by limiting personal funds should help him to get into good habits.

i know you said you don’t want to share finances but actually if you run things this way you will have a better management of the overall household money.

the7Vabo · 11/09/2026 23:39

Scottishskifun · 11/09/2026 23:07

Both sit down and create a spreadsheet with all family costs. Martin Lewis has in depth budget ones for categories.

Include holiday savings, birthdays, Christmas per month etc.
Then total it up and do the ratio split based on monthly income each. Set up a joint account and all bills go from there with a standing order to different savings pots for holiday, Christmas from it.
Joint account isn't to be touched for anything else.

I earn more than my DH and have found the ratio split is the most even. We then keep our own accounts for spending as we spend and save very differently. I've found this way keeps the peace.

Thank you to you & all the others for these suggestions.

When you say you spend & save very differently - does that mean you save more. If so, what is the plan for it? Is it family expenditure or for your own spends?

My only real priority at the moment is my kids I will happily spend less on me so that I can have savings for them. DH doesn't think like that, he just lives day to day.

The most expensive thing he has is golf membership which is fairly cheap one by golf standards, but golf is expensive. One of my kids wants to horse ride and DH dismissed that as we are not horse people, but sending DS horse riding twice a month would cost only slightly more than his golf.

At the same time I don’t want him to give up golf becaus that would be huge for him, it’s his outlet. But I don’t spend anything like that, although to be fair I don’t have that passion about anything.

The main stress point for me is - it feels unfair, and it feels like there is money leaking through lack of any financial planning which we could really do with in a few years for the kids education or even just to take them somewhere nice.

OP posts:
the7Vabo · 11/09/2026 23:43

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 11/09/2026 23:19

Have you ever stopped to consider that your husband is diabolical at numbers.finances etc because that is how he is built?
I have awful discalculus. If I could avoid adding up and taking away...I certainly would. But I live alone, so have to make the effort. Rather than you having to do it, get together, put it into chatGPT and see what it says.

But to your point even if he is naturally bad at them, he doesn’t make any effort to help me.

And he approves/declines loans for a living. He literally spends his days looking at people’s bank statement to see if they can afford to repay a loan.

And while he is doing this he doesn’t know how much his own bills are. He also puts blind faith in me that I will just sort everything like I’m his mother!!

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FunPartyIdeas · 11/09/2026 23:45

@the7Vabo How would things look financially if you were to divorce? There's no "mine" or "his" money really in that scenario.

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