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What would you do in my situation!!

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Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 17:44

Just needing advice really about what you would do in my situation as I am on my last straw, very run down as a result of my marriage and genuinely at a cross roads and my husband seems oblivious!

For general life context, we have been married 11 years. My husband is good looking, well respected in a full time professional job, plays semi professional sport outside of work, very social, lots of friends and likes to be busy. He is helpful at his sports clubs and helps with youth fixtures etc. His working hrs are often about 7.30-5.30pm. Sport taking up about 3/4 evenings a week, all day Saturday every weekend all year round from about 10am to 7/8pm. He's very committed, won't miss a game for e.g. family holidays/weddings etc.
I am in a professional role too working four days a week, and as he is never there really during waking hours (except Sundays), I do the overwhelming majority of everything else and childcare.
We have 2 small children, 1 year and 3 years.

He provides financial for all of us and it means we don't generally need to worry about money (not mega money but we live in a 3 bed semi, which we brought when we were young and the mortgage is quite cheap compared to our salaries).

On the face of it, it kind of works, except me never really getting a break, and him being almost pathologically busy.
My main problem though, is when he is at home, he is not loving or affectionate. If I was to try and give him a kiss or have sex etc he will brush me off and reject it. For reference without sounding annoying, I am generally regarded as pretty, and I look after myself well - people often comment on both my appearance and personality. I'm not sure why but it happens.
This refusal to be affectionate started around 9 years ago when I had a carcinoma removed (I was about 21) and it really freaked him out, and I had suspicion at the time he might have cheated but no evidence and he point blank refused. I'm not sure why I have tolerated it for so long but I think I almost blamed myself and really internalised how stressful it was for him.
My other gripe is he just doesn't engage well with our children, like to the point he has never looked after them by himself EVER for more than an hr. If it is over an hr he gets his parents round to help him. When one of our kids was sick and he was supposed to stay with him when I went to work, he packed them off to grandparents and went and got a coffee and did some work instead.
Lastly, there are too many to list but there are so many constants which don't feel hug and aren't like phsycailly abusive or anything but to be honest for me have caused major resentment. E.g. naming our son whilst I was unconscious after giving birth to him despite me saying I wanted to wait, going out the next day after we got home from the hospital (with both kids after they were born), leaving me when I was heavily pregnant and ill with an ill toddler to go out drinking despite me begging him to stay, drinking and throwing up all over our toddlers bed on first day of the holidays, whenever we've had to take a child to hospital he just texts or calls hope they're OK, and carries on with his life (bar about 2 occasions where it was life threatening), when I had sepsis from mastitis wouldn't leave work to look after the baby so I could rest in hospital meaning the nurses had to, when I was in bed after being discharged from hospital after said sepsis only looked after the baby for 12 minutes out of the whole day whilst I tried to shower and although he was supposed to be spending the day helping me again went out the gym for a coffee etc. There's many, many, many more things but I could go on all day.

He basically never shows up for us when we need him to.

Last weekend I had an honest chat with him and said I feel like I've given up on him to show up for us, and also to be affectionate. I've tried for such a long time and I just cannot any more. He sulked for an hour, said that made him feel shit and refused to eat tea and then an hr later carried on as normal. This week he has continued his normal schedule.
Part of me thinks I could handle the busyness if he was madly in love with me, affectionate, an engaged enthusiastic father and was really caring whilst he is here but he is not.

I feel like I might know my answer deep down but I would like advice on what you would do, what would your next steps be, how would you approach any further conversations.

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Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:27

BatshitCrazyWoman · 18/07/2026 18:23

You really don't. It's great to read that you will be financially okay, and that grandparents are good.

Yes, I'm fortunate in many ways!

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Madamefroufrou · 18/07/2026 18:27

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:12

@Madamefroufrou do you think? I feel like it would shock him but also part of me feels like he'd only care because it makes him look bad.

how much more detached could he be? - yes you are right he would be
shocked, as he was beginning to think you would never get the message
but he will adhere to the script, ie, no idea why you left 🙄
I’m hopeful for you and your children! I think we all are.
Freedom !!!

Backtobroc · 18/07/2026 18:29

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:27

Yes, I'm fortunate in many ways!

So leverage that power
rather than more time procrastinating and pondering

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:29

minmooch · 18/07/2026 18:13

This is no partnership, or even friendship let alone a relationship. I’m sorry. I would leave him as it sounds like he brings nothing to your lives (except financial but he’d have to continue to provide). Imagine how your children will feel in later life - unimportant to their own father. And you are modelling to them that this is what a marriage looks like. Show them that the bar should be set higher. A good father should provide emotionally to both his children and the mother of his children. I grew up with a father more involved than your DH is to his/your children but not by a long way. I have spent a lot of my life feeling rejected and unimportant to the very person who should have loved me, protected me and made me feel safe. It’s not nice. And for a long time I was cross with my mother for allowing it to happen and also not protect me by not doing anything about it.

i left my husband when both my children were small (aged 4 and 5) so am aware how hard it is.

Thank you for sharing this. This makes me feel more resolute in sorting this out because I can see the rejection impacting my son already - he already tries to mould himself to get love and attention from his dad and it's awful to see.

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Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:30

Madamefroufrou · 18/07/2026 18:27

how much more detached could he be? - yes you are right he would be
shocked, as he was beginning to think you would never get the message
but he will adhere to the script, ie, no idea why you left 🙄
I’m hopeful for you and your children! I think we all are.
Freedom !!!

Hahah thank you!! Gosh it does feel a bit relieving to hear other people think it is all unacceptable too. So often I hear how amazing he is from people he does sport with or works with that I do honestly question myself!

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Backtobroc · 18/07/2026 18:31

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:30

Hahah thank you!! Gosh it does feel a bit relieving to hear other people think it is all unacceptable too. So often I hear how amazing he is from people he does sport with or works with that I do honestly question myself!

Amazing at sport… maybe
Amazing at work… maybe

Distinguish that from being an amazing person / husband / father

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:33

Backtobroc · 18/07/2026 18:31

Amazing at sport… maybe
Amazing at work… maybe

Distinguish that from being an amazing person / husband / father

It's true. I've felt it a long time, but maybe felt too psychologically vulnerable to really question it

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Madamefroufrou · 18/07/2026 18:34

Rhaidimiddim · 18/07/2026 18:14

This is not on you. You can't make him step up, and he is not interested in stepping up.

this is so true, that we cannot MAKE someone care who doesn’t
or even can’t shan’t won’t
as in - this is a man masquerading as a husband and father

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:36

It's true. I've felt it a long time, but maybe felt too psychologically vulnerable to really question it

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Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:37

Madamefroufrou · 18/07/2026 18:34

this is so true, that we cannot MAKE someone care who doesn’t
or even can’t shan’t won’t
as in - this is a man masquerading as a husband and father

Yeah. The performative parenting in front of others is real.

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Madamefroufrou · 18/07/2026 18:38

Backtobroc · 18/07/2026 18:29

So leverage that power
rather than more time procrastinating and pondering

yes, strike while the iron (your resolve) is hot

MauveFatball · 18/07/2026 18:47

What an arrogant, selfish and pathetic excuse of a man he is!
You and your children deserve better than this.
Make arrangements to divorce him as soon as possible, after all your life will be so much easier not having to pander to this twat. You do everything anyway so will then have free time just concentrating on the 3 of you.
It sounds like you will have your allies from both sides, yours and his - they probably can all see what’s going on.
Wishing you strength and love to start your new much better life.

Madamefroufrou · 18/07/2026 18:49

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 18:30

Hahah thank you!! Gosh it does feel a bit relieving to hear other people think it is all unacceptable too. So often I hear how amazing he is from people he does sport with or works with that I do honestly question myself!

it doesn’t matter what they think, in this familial context
a woman/mother seldom leaves her marital home without
good reason
yours is neglectful indifference

what firm but fair Backtobroc is advising you -

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 19:02

MauveFatball · 18/07/2026 18:47

What an arrogant, selfish and pathetic excuse of a man he is!
You and your children deserve better than this.
Make arrangements to divorce him as soon as possible, after all your life will be so much easier not having to pander to this twat. You do everything anyway so will then have free time just concentrating on the 3 of you.
It sounds like you will have your allies from both sides, yours and his - they probably can all see what’s going on.
Wishing you strength and love to start your new much better life.

Thank you ❤️

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Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 19:03

Madamefroufrou · 18/07/2026 18:49

it doesn’t matter what they think, in this familial context
a woman/mother seldom leaves her marital home without
good reason
yours is neglectful indifference

what firm but fair Backtobroc is advising you -

Yes had some wonderful advice on here this evening, thank you. Just did a divorce calculator, a settlement would leave me enough to put a decent deposit down on a small home for me and my children in the local area which us positive if no one could buy him out.

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Madmother63 · 18/07/2026 19:03

As a wise women of 62 now, I left my "checked out" DH of 23 years, when I was in my 40's. My DC were 12 and 16. Once in our little house we had the best years! I was doing everything anyway, so made no difference to me. We just didn't have a miserable man hanging around. I carried on working PT and claimed tax credits and my exDH covered the rest. We had some fantastic holidays too.

When the DC had their own lives, I met and fell in love with my now DH. We've been together 10 years. Whilst not perfect, I'm not either! he is so affectionate, kind and loving. Looking back, I was starved of affection.

Please don't stay in a loveless marriage. Concentrate on you and your DC. Allow both sets of GP to help you out with regular childcare and you'll never look back!

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 19:08

Madmother63 · 18/07/2026 19:03

As a wise women of 62 now, I left my "checked out" DH of 23 years, when I was in my 40's. My DC were 12 and 16. Once in our little house we had the best years! I was doing everything anyway, so made no difference to me. We just didn't have a miserable man hanging around. I carried on working PT and claimed tax credits and my exDH covered the rest. We had some fantastic holidays too.

When the DC had their own lives, I met and fell in love with my now DH. We've been together 10 years. Whilst not perfect, I'm not either! he is so affectionate, kind and loving. Looking back, I was starved of affection.

Please don't stay in a loveless marriage. Concentrate on you and your DC. Allow both sets of GP to help you out with regular childcare and you'll never look back!

Thank you so much. I've just turned 30 and I do have an overwhelming feeling of I cannot do this for the rest of my life and be so love and attention starved! I'm a pretty loving person too and it is heartbreaking for me having my love and attention rejected.

My children are brilliant and I know us three will be fine whatever, but it is just so daunting taking the next step x

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tooloololoo · 18/07/2026 19:11

As a single mum myself to young children
you will be so much happier without him dragging you down emotionally.

there is a whole life out there. He brings nothing to you and your children other than money.
money will always be there, it’s all about him.

he will never change as he is selfish and self absorbed

Madamefroufrou · 18/07/2026 19:11

Madmother63 a lovely post,
your first paragraph describing my experience
we felt as though we could breathe freely at last.
Never look back!

HenriettaHippopotamus · 18/07/2026 19:12

I’d leave. It’s not going to be tougher as he doesn’t do anything.

tooloololoo · 18/07/2026 19:14

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 19:08

Thank you so much. I've just turned 30 and I do have an overwhelming feeling of I cannot do this for the rest of my life and be so love and attention starved! I'm a pretty loving person too and it is heartbreaking for me having my love and attention rejected.

My children are brilliant and I know us three will be fine whatever, but it is just so daunting taking the next step x

I also just turned 30 and been single for 4 years
in the last year I just put all my energy into my child and growing a company that now turns over 900k with 200k profit

it’s wild what women can do when there isn’t the wrong guy dragging her down emotionally unless he is lifting her up.

i will admit my child’s dad and I have a great friendship/ co parent and go on holidays.
that’s not to say I’m not exhausted all of the time working and doing it all

but it’s much better than staying with the wrong man who is selfish and wasting your young years

Kvfihi · 18/07/2026 19:15

You could have described my life although my DH will look after the kids for longer than an hour but it leaves much to be desired.
I told him I was done this year as I’ve been unhappy for a long time and he clearly doesn’t really care about my happiness or wellbeing

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 19:17

tooloololoo · 18/07/2026 19:11

As a single mum myself to young children
you will be so much happier without him dragging you down emotionally.

there is a whole life out there. He brings nothing to you and your children other than money.
money will always be there, it’s all about him.

he will never change as he is selfish and self absorbed

Yeah I supposed I am scared of the unknown. We have been together my entire adult life!

But you're right, it won't be harder than now. If anything it's hardest on the days he is here and sometimes I find myself wanting to send him off for a run just to have a break from him

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Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 19:19

tooloololoo · 18/07/2026 19:14

I also just turned 30 and been single for 4 years
in the last year I just put all my energy into my child and growing a company that now turns over 900k with 200k profit

it’s wild what women can do when there isn’t the wrong guy dragging her down emotionally unless he is lifting her up.

i will admit my child’s dad and I have a great friendship/ co parent and go on holidays.
that’s not to say I’m not exhausted all of the time working and doing it all

but it’s much better than staying with the wrong man who is selfish and wasting your young years

Wow that sounds amazing. I think it's so true, I am not one to ever sit around waiting for him and do do lots of things I want to do but I do feel he takes up a lot of mental energy feeling annoyed at him!

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tooloololoo · 18/07/2026 19:22

Grumpynewmum23 · 18/07/2026 19:17

Yeah I supposed I am scared of the unknown. We have been together my entire adult life!

But you're right, it won't be harder than now. If anything it's hardest on the days he is here and sometimes I find myself wanting to send him off for a run just to have a break from him

Uncertainty is normal and especially as he is the father to your children -it’s what feels known

Maybe sit and write out what you want for yourself, your life, the kids . How would life be

Would you try couples therapy together and see if he is receptive before you make any jumps.

His reaction was already avoidant when you expressed your feelings.

Write a plan out and do some research, if he rejects couples therapy. What is plan B?
Find out what support you’ll be entitled to. Him leaving the house. Finances etc
hopefully that will give you more clarity.
talk to Women’s Aid

i know what you mean, when you don’t want him around because although he is there, it’s just draining him being around as there is no effort or contribution. Just dead weight in the house
sorry to say.