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Why are so many people up at this hour ?

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SummerDad · 27/01/2013 01:25

Just wondering ...

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starsandunicorns · 09/02/2013 23:51

Kitty did BA Honours English and History but dont want to do teaching just was able to get up and do presentations let alone do it in front of kids and teach them stuff so kinda of stuck in no mans land now sigh

BesameBesame · 10/02/2013 00:13

Why am I up at this hour? MN is better than TV. Much, much better.

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 10/02/2013 02:57

Besame tru dat Wink (I am so street) but why aren't you asleep?

stars is there a history centre near you? Could that sort of work be a possibility? Archivist or such?

We viewed the house and it is even better in the flesh (brick?!) Grin Cross everything please that it becomes ours.

WandaDoff · 10/02/2013 03:21

Why am I up at this hour?

I'm stressed out & not sleeping well.

i can't breathe well. I've got a cold that has turned into a nasty chest infection & the Dr has put me on antib's & steroids.
DD isn't sleeping well as usual, she has autism & sleeping well for her is maybe 6 hrs if very lucky.

We had guests as it was DPs birthday & he fucked off to bed, so I had to stay up till the company left.

I'm now having a drink & a wee chill out before I try to sleep.

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 10/02/2013 03:37

oh dear Wanda is your daughter up with you too then?

Enjoy your snifter Grin

Did you enjoy your evening?

jynier · 10/02/2013 04:12

... am so very, very tired but brain won't slow down ... ! Wrote to my MP yesterday about the horsemeat situation and tried this evening to send an email to Defra. It's actually quite difficult to achieve - not sure if it was "sent."

I was able to add, however, to the MN thread about said subject.

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 10/02/2013 04:29

what have you asked of your mp, jynier? I hope s/he replies Smile

Have you tried a focussing game like trying to name all 50 states or an ABC of a particular subject? That works for me.

My legs are aching so much Sad

Been awake all night bar about half an hour. Been up with the baby for the last two hours. she's just gone off, so I'll try too as well. We are away and she's in a travel cot though so not convinced she'll settle.

Altinkum · 10/02/2013 05:30

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jynier · 10/02/2013 05:36

I am very serious about the horsemeat controversy; I was prescribed Premarin years ago (HRT) and then found that it was derived from the urine of pregnant mares kept in intensive farms all over Ireland. Am going back years but you can google and see pics of the poor horses kept like battery hens with catheters attached to their bladders. I always wondered what happened to the mares (once they were past their reproductive life) and their many foals.

StairsInTheNight · 10/02/2013 06:12

Hope your coping ok with that altinkum. Maybe a long walk today will let you think? (if the snow holds off). Hope you others got some sleep. I seem to be managing 12 till 6 ok which is good for me. Jynier hope you get a speedy response to your letter. Wanda i hope you feel better soon and get to lay in today!

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 10/02/2013 06:37

I'm here again, (sob).

I didn't suggest you weren't serious, jynier. I just wanted to know what actions you had asked your mp to carry out.

altinkum I'm so sorry to hear that. I wish you the very best outcome. Sad Wine Thanks

Lueji · 10/02/2013 07:24

Altinkum,
hugs,

I hope the early hours thinking has helped you.
Can you both have counselling?
How are you not getting on?

Altinkum · 10/02/2013 08:00

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cafecito · 10/02/2013 12:04

Sorry to hear that Altinkum- hoping this may be the start or realisation on his part that he needs to communicate and change - sometimes drastic action is needed for it to sink in

I think it's good that you are speaking out jynier - too many of us have no idea what goes on and live in 'fairyland' ignorance

I must say - officially - not sleeping for days on end IS BAD FOR YOU Grin I cannot begin to describe how unwell I have been since my exam on Friday- in fact, during the exam, and onwards. Think- blurred vision, pounding headache, tachycardia, nausea, achey joints, collapsing, shivering, freezing cold, high fever, weird nosebleed... I am a wreck! I googled my symptoms and it came up with various tropical diseases. In reality, I probably just have flu. But it's not very nice. Have spent the last 36 hours in bed Shock I went to a comedy club eve on Fri and left ridiculously early as I felt too ill.

In short- I must not do this again Hmm [I know I will....]

SummerDad · 10/02/2013 13:06

cafecito good to see you in day light, I hope you did well in the exam on Friday. I see this as indulging in a self-disintegrating routine which I have been doing too for years now sadly and I can tell you from experience it does take a toll on your mental and physical health Smile I feel my short term memory is not as good as it was when I was young

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MrsHoarder · 10/02/2013 13:46

So reassured that our future doctors understand the limitations of the human body well Wink. I felt like that for the first half of the week too, but its not possible to plan for a baby being ill.

SummerDad · 10/02/2013 14:32

Well MrsHoarder NHS does not understand the limitations of a doctor's body, I am afraid. I would say cafecito is already living the lifestyle she would be expected to live in a few years time as a professional doctor. I wouldn't ever sign up for a doctor's life and so would most of the doctors if they knew in advance what were they going to face. It is not for the faint hearted Smile

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Midwife99 · 10/02/2013 15:34

I agree - 6 years at Uni, massive debts, 100+ hours a week, low pay for years, it's HARD to be an NHS junior doctor

PigletJohn · 10/02/2013 20:08

the long hours problem is because the people who set the rules are the same people who pay the wages.

For example the govt has no problem mandating maximum working hours and minimum rest periods for lorry drivers and pilots, where the cost of additional labour is at someone else's expense, and may very occasionally save a life or two by preventing accidents due to tiredness.

There is an additional industry problem where old people in the trade say "I had to suffer so now they should suffer too"

SummerDad · 10/02/2013 20:27

To be honest, working conditions for doctors in the UK seem to be quite good as compared to US and most of the other parts of the world, this is one of the areas where EU directives have probably made their lives easy by capping the maximum number of hours per week though this affects especially the young doctors financially. Human body is complex and doctors do require an intensive crash schedule to be trained fully in a reasonable time. Even with this crazy workload, a doctor may still take 5-7 years to get fully trained and that's on top of 6 years at uni.

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StairsInTheNight · 11/02/2013 04:38

full of admiration for anyone who could take that job on. I hope all you doctors and nearly doctors are getting some rest tonight. Well i am up again, though with one slight sweetner, it has snowed here in London. Very pretty outside.

Goober · 11/02/2013 04:50

At work.

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 11/02/2013 08:06

I agree stairs, total admiration; it's such an undertaking and those who orchestrate the teaching and learning are relentless. Nowhere else would you be allowed to have such lack of consideration for your students and such total ignorance of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Shock

Snow here too Grin

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 11/02/2013 08:21

what do you do goober? Smile

Midwife99 · 11/02/2013 10:50

Being a midwife is tough at times but big respect for my medical colleagues (apart from the rude old male consultants who are just about still in existence & treat their underlings like shite!) Smile

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