Archers thread #203: It's Affair Cop! Discuss The Archers here.

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Thank you, @PseudoBadger, for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads.

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Starting the new thread a bit early as I'm not sure I'll have much internet access for the next few days. Fill up the old one first. And then - over to you!

(Credit for the thread title goes to @TripleSulko.)

@AgentKim , Doors in soaps are only ever locked for a reason. Eg, locking yourself in the bathroom or if you're elderly and are about to have a fall.

@BeatriceBatchelor ,it could of been the SW being mischeevious.

I'm all for the dedding of Pip and Fat Rosie. She's boring and unlikeable.
Helen, by contrast, is not likeable in the slightest but she's a brilliant character and superbly acted.

The BBC does seem to have favourites and then they seem to pop up everywhere. There's usually a type, or a set of types.
I suspect that the person mentioned might fit into the pretty youngish not a complete airhead blonde type.

How much would it matter if Brookfield was sold to a completely new family of farmers in terms of current SLs, other than them being connected to most of the characters.

We could all complain to the BBC about the enunciation in TA.
Maybe the SW wanted to portray that a privileged upbringing and private education was no guarantee of good grammar.

I ❤Freddie.

Urgh! I need ear bleach after that could of.

If we do all complain, can we compare the replies. Pretty much every complaint I've made gets a 'well no one else has complained' style reply.

I knew it!

Linda shouldn't walk into a milking parlour like that. I was stunned by her entitlement. If she wants to discuss her plan she should make a proper appointment.

Dear god will they ever stop going on about those wretched sheep? Yes, we know it was awful!

Shula once addressed Lilian as "auntie Lilian". They're first cousins.

Someone needs to create an app where you can enter two Archers characters names and it tells you how they’re related 😀

For once, Pip sounded quite empathetic with another human being. She listened to Linda and made an intelligent summary of the issues from each side.

I suppose David and Ruth will now come down strongly against the dog field idea.

But you know the writers like to be contrary and turn any disagreement on its head. Invariably if today A takes position Y, and B takes position Z - tomorrow they will each be arguing the reverse.

So I won’t be surprised if Ruth and David call for a parish meeting and a loud protest all through the night in favour of the wretched dog field (which I’m already sick of hearing about).

If the dog-field comes to pass, Markie and his mates will be able to bring their dogs there for walkies.

I misread this as pariah meeting - which sounds about right the way Brian was going on

I don’t think it’s strange to call family by traditional age related titles titles over factual ones - although if my own family my kids call my cousins their cousins and my aunts and uncle auntie xxx and uncle xxx. They also call some of my friends auntie and uncle too.

I just love Freddie to bits and was happy to
be afforded a lovely day dream of him and Chelsea having the most awesome future doing amazing events wmaking dreams come to true at LL once pesky Lizzy is out of the way. Chelsea can do spas and make overs, Freddie’s bringing the tunes and the whopping location! They could breathe a bit of new life into the place (more so than Fallon!)

To be clear I was envisioning Chelsea swooping in and helping Freddie titivate the pony. Not that I agree with it - but can get over it in this instance.

They could breathe a bit of new life into the place …

Gosh, I remember when it was Nigel and Elizabeth doing exactly that …

How old is Vince? I thought he'd be 70 but sure they said 60!

Why did Ian not spell out why Adam is so upset (i.e. Brian stating baldly that Adam is not his son) instead of talking all around the houses? (This sort of thing often happens in general, in the dialogue).
Harrison and Lily are rather sweet although haters of the former (and/or latter) will doubtless not agree.

I’m quite looking forward to the party but worried Vince’s ghastly mother and daughters will be there. They would have to be if it’s really his birthday party but for our sakes I hope it’s like the ball at Netherfield and we only need to be exposed to our familiars.

Oh, me too.

I am really hoping Jolene and Lily have a massive fight on Sunday.

Would love Lily to quote some Pat Butcher lines.

Harrison and Lily are rather sweet although haters of the former (and/or latter) will doubtless not agree. - They're ghastly. She's suffocating and he's on the rebound and thinking with his dick.

I thought it was interesting how put out Harrison was when Ed said he’d move on and vehemently denied that he had. I bet Lily wouldn’t have been too impressed.

Apologies for my blunt language earlier but Lily threw herself at him.
Ed was fairly tactful - for Ed. Harrison's reaction was meant to be noticed.

Harrison and Fallon are now housemates, so what will she do? Conrad's been mentioned...

If I was Ian I would have given Brian what for.
He is not Zanders Grandad and not related to their little family at all which he has pointed out very clearly.
Ian is also Zanders dad so he should tell Brian to Fox Trot Oscar. He is Adam's Husband and stick up for him all the time in this situation. I would be really hurt if my DH was going through this, and I would come out all guns blazing especially if Brain had come to my place of work, shouting the odds.
Don't think Harrison and Lily will last.

1. He still loves Fallon.
2. There is too many people poking their noses in.
3. I think they are trying too hard to get accepted, even though Lily likes to think she dosnt care what anyone thinks.

Gosh I’m also SO fed up with this dog field idea. From the very premise that Robert and Lynda haven’t paid off their mortgage after centuries in Ambridge (and moving from London) to the obvious tactlessness of it coming from The People Who Brought You The Sheep Worrier, to the fact that it’s just so bloody boring.

Highlight of the week for me was Ed gently and perfectly agreeing that Harrison had moved on a bit quickly and H then being absolutely outraged. Classic.

Sorry as I think I’m dragging the conversation back a bit, but was there actually any bit of gordongrundys birth which was concerning. I get birth is traumatic but I don’t even remember any indication it was anything f but pretty straightforward. Amber keeps harping back to some sort of of delusion that she or the baby nearly died. Maybe I slept through that bit.

I think Amber was just surprised by the reality of the birth. She feels she failed herself by not having a lovely water birth.

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