Archers thread #198: Josh sent to Patagonia, Pip stays put. Wrong way round! Discuss The Archers here.

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Not feeling greatly enthused about what's going on in Ambridge at the moment, tbh. I'm annoyed at Brian's hypocrisy about Ruairi given the furore over George's attempt to frame Alice as the cause of the accident. I do hope we don't have a slow drip drip drip now as one after another the members of the Aldridge/Archer clan find out what really happened and endlessly agonise over what to do. Frankly I don't care. There! I've said it.

Pip's OK. Well, good, but what was the point of that story, I wonder?

I suspect I'm in a minority of one in rather enjoying hearing (a) from Bert Horobin and (b) about Fletcher. I surmise Bert is here to stay for a while because the BBC has (amazingly) updated his character page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/1wQP3mKR6yr9LVs05jddxcY/bert-horrobin (prominent actor photo warning). Given how out of date a lot of the other character pages are, this seems odd, but there we are.

That's all I can be bothered to say! Over to you.

And Akram.

Ha! And Helen too, perhaps? That would make a terrific spin-off series.

Helen must stay. Too good a character and actor.

bert to have a fall at clive's
tracy to, again, pick up the pieces

carol - also a fall. the whole village helping (apart from tracy who hears all about it at work at the bull)

compare & contrast

Day 6 in Clives gaff: Bert still doesn't have an actual bed but he's happy because he's had 5 days of egg and chips.

I wonder what sort of pension pot Adam has? Was he working for an agency in his African years?

Is the council house tenancy on The Green tied to Bert @AskingQuestionsAllTheTime? If so that could make things difficult for Tracy and Jazzer if Bert moves out.

I think Tracy got herself added to the tenancy a while back.

She did:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/gQ9f0WVGpJFgfZvrRNdZcH/tracy-horrobin

But I’m perfectly sure Clive must imagine there’s some financial gain to be had from becoming his father’s carer.

If the SW want to focus on caring, maybe they should start by caring about us.

Why should we care about Anna and her younger-sounding mother?
Why should we care about Father Bertie Boswell.?

The radio is on and i thought 'That's the Chris Carter actor' and it is. (Marcus in Limelight.)

I just recognised him as a useless police officer in Believe Me on ITV.

Tracey just needs to say, off you pop to her dad. He's presumably competent, so allowed to make poor choices. Id let Clive have a turn.. It all goes pear shaped and Bert ends up in a care home ruing the day he moved out. The siblings should be taking turns ref care anyway. At the moment Susan and Clive have it easy.

Same with Carol. Her choices may not be Annas choices but she is allowed to decide what she wants to do.

We often have a bat nursing colony and the are noisy buggers.

Clive will be looking out for number one.

No he won't. He's a changed man and he does yoga.

Thing is, both Tracy and Anna will then have to pick up the pieces, probably at a time worst for them in terms of trying to work/balance other family responsibilities.

Bert will be in an even worse state than he is now and Tracy will have even more work when he inevitably returns. Carol will have a fall, lie there for a whole night, get pneumonia or a kidney infection or break a hip, be even more frail and reliant on Anna. I have seen these situations play out in close family.

They'll milk it for all its worth first. Lots of opportunities for PSAs.
Then Carol will live silently until they need Glebe Cottage for SL purposes.

Lordy - the continuity announcer is scaring me about tonight …

Told ya! How her ears pricked up before!

Flippin' heck

Oh my absolute gosh. Totally predictable outcome from Brian though. His bat and his ball. Nice to hear Debbie. Great to hear the home truths about family ties. Who was the script writer. The deserve a medal.

Farkin’ ‘ell …

Poor Adam - I knew the moment he told her Brian had promised him the land she started worrying about her own inheritance.

Amazed Adam kept his mouth shut about the missing elephant.

Well Adam, lying conniving bastard, that didn't go to plan did it?

I'm glad I'm not an Aldridge.

Wow!