Sats year 2. What has happened??

notahappybunny7 · 2023-07-19T04:46:41+00:00

Ok so to be brief my year 2 dd has just got her results. 99 for reading which teacher assessment took to 100 to pass. However my dd has always been one of the best readers, flew through reception, ended in turquoise band, the school in year one put the whole class back to green band so all learning the same sounds, wasn’t happy about this but what can you do? Phonics screening was 39 and always exceeding at literacy till this.

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Dontsparethehorses · 19/07/2023 05:54

They haven’t taught her how to answer the comprehension style questions effectively. The reading paper is more than just reading fluently…

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notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 06:07

Her comprehension has always been good! I had her assessed at a private tutor at the beginning of year 2 and was told she scored 100% in a year 3 comprehension test and a reading age of 8. I do feel she is a bit ignored in the class, teacher focus seems to be on a small group of exceptionally clever kids and children who are behind.

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Clutterbugsmum · 19/07/2023 06:17

Dontsparethehorses · 19/07/2023 05:54

They haven’t taught her how to answer the comprehension style questions effectively. The reading paper is more than just reading fluently…

It could be as simple as not answering in the 'correct' format.

But equally don't worry to much about it is not important in the grand scheme of things as long as your child is learning and enjoying school.

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notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 06:27

I do appreciate it’s not “important “ as such but I really don’t feel she is getting the best out of school and this is the straw that’s broke the camels back! She started reception with such promise and with each year has dropped a little in what she is achieving. I’ve not been particularly happy with years 1 or 2 , the teachers attention is elsewhere. I know teachers are under a lot of pressure, but we have 1 teacher and 2 ta in class. Also it’s a small town school, lots of parents friends with ta’s and teachers, a lot of parents and grandparents and teachers attended the school themselves so favouritism has been an issue from day one. I just want to k ow how best to help her as she is not reaching her potential, no way.
maybe not that big a deal now but as time goes on….

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Angelik · 19/07/2023 06:34

Have you talked to the school? One teacher and 2 ta's is a lot! Your dd might need to learn how to focus and try harder now - it doesn't all come easy. We have to learn how to learn weirdly.

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notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 06:46

The teacher says she’s working very hard, concentrates well. She is bright but definitely doesn’t have a love of learning!! If I do things at home with her she can’t finish fast enough and getting her to read is like pulling teeth!

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notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 07:30

Thread seems to have died! Ok I think what I’m asking is how best to support my child? Doing reading, spelling, times table at home? For how long a day? There’s no way her teacher has been able to give her best to every child and with my dd being well behaved and getting to expected without much help it’s understandable, although annoying that they aren’t stretching her.

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Clutterbugsmum · 19/07/2023 07:31

I completely understand what you are saying. My DC2 when in Primary school was bored to tears because they couldn't meet her needs. They would do the set lesson and the additional work and still finished well before then end of lesson.

By year 3 she was 'free reading' and getting the only child getting 2 library books a week as they couldn't give her any more additional work to do, so she would read when finished the school work. We started getting more school workbooks so she could do more school work at home. By Year 6 she would spend most of her school day doing nothing.

Unfortunately schools can barely meet the needs of children who are struggling. So it's easy for those who are at the upper levels to leave them to get on with whatever school work has been set and as long as they are not disrupting the class they can be ignored.

newmum1976 · 19/07/2023 08:23

To get a scaled score of 99, she scored 23 or 24 out of 40. You could do some past papers to see what the issue is. It may be there is too much for her to read, or she doesn’t understand the inference questions.

JustFrustrated · 19/07/2023 08:25

newmum1976 · 19/07/2023 08:23

To get a scaled score of 99, she scored 23 or 24 out of 40. You could do some past papers to see what the issue is. It may be there is too much for her to read, or she doesn’t understand the inference questions.

Hey, can you explain what this means to me? Because we just get year 6 SAT results and it refers to "scaled" but no explanation?

Never got my eldests results so it feels unusual.

Also, OP, you're stressing over nothing.

Dolphinnoises · 19/07/2023 08:29

If your child is an early reader, Y2 can be a bit of a funny year. There isn’t a lot in class for them to read, and the thrill of piecing it together has gone. It can feel like a bit of a holding pattern.

What books are you buying her to read at home?

RudsyFarmer · 19/07/2023 08:32

You can help your child by not being so fixated on results. Help her develop a love for reading. Ask lots of questions about the books she reads. Read anything from signs to comics to books to magazines.

she sounds absolutely fine so I honestly wouldn’t worry. You could reach out to the teacher to say you are concerned and see if she can put your mind at rest.

newmum1976 · 19/07/2023 08:36

Probably best to read the links below. But basically, all the tests they do are out of different marks. To make it easier to compare, they scale up the marks. For KS2, everybody gets a mark between 80 and 120. Anything over 100 is the expected standard. Over 110 is greater depth.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/understanding-scaled-scores-at-key-stage-2

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1169073/2023_key_stage_2_scaled_score_tables.pdf

Understanding scaled scores at key stage 2

Information for schools and local authorities about scaled scores and the expected standard for the 2023 national curriculum tests.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/understanding-scaled-scores-at-key-stage-2

FoodFann · 19/07/2023 08:40

notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 06:07

Her comprehension has always been good! I had her assessed at a private tutor at the beginning of year 2 and was told she scored 100% in a year 3 comprehension test and a reading age of 8. I do feel she is a bit ignored in the class, teacher focus seems to be on a small group of exceptionally clever kids and children who are behind.

You’ve hit the nail on the head. The teacher has to spend their time with the very low children, and the ones in the middle get almost no attention, and as long as they’re getting ‘expected standard’ they’re not the priority to push on.

One of the many reasons I won’t be sending my DD to state school.

newmum1976 · 19/07/2023 08:40

Sorry that last message was for @JustFrustrated

TeenDivided · 19/07/2023 08:41

notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 06:46

The teacher says she’s working very hard, concentrates well. She is bright but definitely doesn’t have a love of learning!! If I do things at home with her she can’t finish fast enough and getting her to read is like pulling teeth!

I wonder if this is the issue. She just rushes a bit?

Or if getting her to read is difficult, maybe others have overtaken her.

Do the library summer reading challenge (I assume that's still going). Get hard enough books. Make her read out loud a page or 2 every day, and then she finishes the chapter herself. Talk about the books.

Use a reward chart if needed.

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notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 08:42

Lucky you’ve got that option!!

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RudsyFarmer · 19/07/2023 09:03

FoodFann · 19/07/2023 08:40

You’ve hit the nail on the head. The teacher has to spend their time with the very low children, and the ones in the middle get almost no attention, and as long as they’re getting ‘expected standard’ they’re not the priority to push on.

One of the many reasons I won’t be sending my DD to state school.

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That’s such a shitty attitude 😕

Camacamacama · 19/07/2023 09:06

Have you got audible? One of mine wouldn’t read but would happily listen to books at bedtime. It slowly slowly helped him get into reading.

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notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 10:39

I’m not fixated on results, wondering how a previously exceeding child can barely scrape a pass!

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notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 10:42

I don’t feel she is being stretched at school at all, there was a few things in her report the teacher says she needs to work on eg telling time 5, 10 past etc, said she knows quarter past and half past but she does know this!

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newmum1976 · 19/07/2023 10:49

Most of the report will be the same for all of them. We’ve had several reports for my older DDs where they didn’t even get their name right! And my DS in year 2 was told he needs to learn the 7, 8 and 9 times tables. He has greater depth in maths and has know all tables since reception.

coloursquare · 19/07/2023 10:51

To be candid - you are overreacting and focussing on the wrong things.

Y2 is extremely young and they have no experience of test papers (thank God). She's meeting expectations and will continue to make progress - development is not linear.

As others have said, keep reading and keep engaging with her and giving her interesting experiences.

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notahappybunny7 · 19/07/2023 10:58

What do you mean by interesting experiences??

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Sherrystrull · 19/07/2023 10:58

I'm a year 2 teacher.
The paper was tough. 99 is a score that shows she's working at age related expectations. Yes it's not 100 but it's not far off. What book band is she on? How does she cope with comprehension style activities completed independently?