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The 5th Gemini luxury bus - the one with babies!

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FrustratedSycamoresRocks · 21/06/2013 15:07

As we have all our gorgeous babies now, welcome aboad the 5th Gemini bus.

Drinks and previously banned foods supplied in bulk, Car seats installed, slings and prams at the ready, as we head into parenthood, and all the excitement, and sleepless nights our little ones will bring along the way.

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kittykatsforever · 04/07/2013 10:16

Yes we've had proper tears aswell!
We have got a "pram pram" frus although can't use it if we want to put dd1 in aswell but feel bad putting her on her tummy in there aswell, people will judge

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FrustratedSycamoresRocks · 04/07/2013 11:43

Leaking eyes Grin
Ds' eyes leaked this morning because he had a dirty nappy and wanted feeding and it was all too much for him. Sad

kitty I have one of these with the cot on top and dd2 in the bottom. You can practically see people giving themselves wedgies hoiking up their judgy pants to their armpits. Grin
But with just ds on his belly they're okay with it. Ds has a pillow in there too to counteract the reflux.

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kittykatsforever · 04/07/2013 14:45

Ours is pretty similar, we have the icandy peach but I only bought the extra seat not carry cot as I have one allready from. Dd1 but for it to work as a double you need a smaller one so I can use the carry cot on its own, if I use it as a double it's only seat& car seat or 2 seats, I didn't think it warranted the extra cost as we allready had the one and if I'm doing a whole day somewhere where I'd need it dh would be with me and we have a cheeper maclaren aswell, I have put her on her side aswell but she doesn't like that either she's a tummy tot!
Atleast her lovely hair won't rub off though Wink

bringonthetrumpets · 04/07/2013 19:47

Phew today is crazy at the trumpet household. It's the national holiday here today so the kids are home from school, dh is home, and since we live near a lake, it's mayhem with teenagers driving to the beach down our road....only 3 more days of this until M and I have the house to ourselves again. Confused

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FrustratedSycamoresRocks · 04/07/2013 21:14

Darn it, I knew there was something I was gonna do... happy Independence Day bring

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Jojobump1986 · 04/07/2013 23:31

At least you're not lonely bring! Wink Enjoy your long weekend!

I feel rubbish. My throat is sooo sore! Sad Just waiting for the ibuprofen to kick in.

I bought nipple shields tonight! My let down was so strong that he kept gagging & wrenching off & it was making me sore. We've had one feed so far... Which lasted 45 minutes in total! Hmm Less toe-curling pain with the first few sucks though so that's nice! I guess they must slow the flow a bit because he didn't gag once! Not entirely sure how I feel about going from nice quick 10 min feeds to being stuck sitting down for 45 mins though! Does anyone have any experience with shields? They were a bit of a desperate impulse buy & I don't really know what I'm doing with them! Blush

bringonthetrumpets · 04/07/2013 23:56

Jo they really are more for babies who either are having a really hard time latching due to inverted nipples (or mums who need their nipples to heal) or for babies who won't latch due to preference to bottle nipples. They can be hard to wean babies off of though, so I would try to stay away from them tbh. They are way over prescribed over here for women instead of really working on correcting the latch and I think they give women the impression that there is something wrong with their bodies. I'd take 10 minutes compared to 45! You could try leaning back during nursing to reduce the effect of gravity on your let down, you could express milk to the point of getting a let down and then feed baby the rest so it's not so strong for him, you could gently hold back the top of the breast your nursing from, there are a lot of ways to help with the forceful let down. With all things, shields do have a time and a place....

Lib pumping from the sore side could help out a lot. I wouldn't rely on it too much to tell you how much you're making though as the suction with a breast pump compared to the efficiency of how a baby sucks makes a huge difference in output. If you do have thrush (ouch, I hope it clears for you quickly!!) make sure to boil or wash your bras in hot water with vinegar to kill off the yeast spores, change your breast pads frequently if they get wet, expose your breasts to air, and wash your hands frequently. Also boil pacifiers daily and consider getting baby treated so you two aren't passing it back and forth.

Librarina · 05/07/2013 03:01

I bought them as well JoJo but I've not had the coordination to out them on and feed her, plus I scared myself by reading takes of how hard it is to wean off them. But the midwife is coming tomorrow for her last visit (I'm going to miss them so) so Ill have a chat with her about them.

We also bought Ewan The Dream Sheep which has been a godsend, it is a fluffy sheep which makes white noise and has a warm red light, I don't know about her but it sends me to sleep in minutes!

Ivedecided the secret to happy baby rearing is to stay in bed from 3-6, feed 6-7, eat a quick tea then go back to bed until the 10pm feed. So basically in order to not go crazy with a baby I need to go to bed at 3pm!

Happy4'th July xxxx

Librarina · 05/07/2013 03:19

Heee, i started writing my last message on the midnight feed and finished it on the 3am one. Cheers for the bra boiling tip. Do you know if I can still use my nipple butter? We are both being treated, I have pills, she has delicious liquid which she loves, feel a bit sad dosing her up already, especially as swabs weren't taken, but I am feeling a little better already.

bringonthetrumpets · 05/07/2013 03:35

Ha thanks Lib! Yeah, unfortunately she's the one who's given you thrush so it's pretty important to treat you both. You can give her the probiotics as well! Just a small amount of the powder in the capsules on the tip of your finger in her mouth 3x per day. I think the nipple butter should be okay... I should check on that.

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FrustratedSycamoresRocks · 05/07/2013 04:18

I've been awake since 12. It's just not funny. DH is
driving me mad. Dd2 won't sleep. DH I'd making his usually big deal out of it. I'm already sleep deprived, if he wants a big deal he's going to get one. Ds has hiccups and is getting angry with them.

And by the smell of it our ndn is having a cigarette out her back door again.

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kittykatsforever · 05/07/2013 06:25

I'm abit worried I may have thrush now too Hmm I did have dd1 treated for it as the gp thought they saw it in her mouth but I never had it
Last night for the first time my left boob hurt when I fed her and not just the latch although that did hurt but the whole feed felt weird and uncomfortable, I'm hoping not with it comming up to the weekend, do you need to see a gp to get meds if it is?
I've been really lucky bf and never had problems so was surprised by sudden out the blue pain, could it be anything else? I don't think she's had bad latches that could have caused it?

kittykatsforever · 05/07/2013 06:27

Oh and when you say boil bras in vinegar what does that mean? Do you put it in the washing machine draw where the powder goes? How much? Then do you wash them again?

Librarina · 05/07/2013 08:40

Mine are boiling in a pan of vinegary hot water now.
Oh the glamour!

kittykatsforever · 05/07/2013 08:58

Ahh I see, yes very glam!
I really don't know whether that's what mine is lib, I looked in dd2 mouth and can't see any sign of it, what does it feel like to you and is it both?

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FrustratedSycamoresRocks · 05/07/2013 09:36

kitty it will be little white patching in his mouth that don't rub off with your finger. (Milk rubs off)
On you it will be itchy areola and nipples, that feels like you can't quite reach the itch. And if its in the milk ducts it can feel like shooting pains when he feeds (and often when not feeding)

Do you feel any warm patches on your boobs?

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kittykatsforever · 05/07/2013 14:12

No warm patches but they have felt itchy since the beginning really, they don't feel as bad today as last night so maybe it is a bad latch issue x

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FrustratedSycamoresRocks · 06/07/2013 07:59

kitty the warm patch q isn't to do with the thrush.
How have the feeds been since?

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kittykatsforever · 06/07/2013 10:17

Seems ok touch wood, maybe a random one off thing?
How lucky are we to have weather like this on our time off Grin

Lorelei353 · 06/07/2013 10:24

Good morning.
The weather is amazing isn't it? Struggling to keep ds cool though.

We had great adventures yesterday. I took ds to be registered so he's all official and has birth certs and everything. Then ds my mum and I walked down to meet dh for coffee and I bf ds in public for the first time. It went well although he did pop off at one point and I sprayed/leaked a bit. Wasn't too much though.

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FrustratedSycamoresRocks · 06/07/2013 12:24

I agree the weather is gorgeous. BBQ with ILs later. Padding pool out. Sun cream applied. And at park with dd2 and ds.
This heat is a nightmare for ds. He likes being wrapped up to sleep, but it's too hot to wrap him up.

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Librarina · 06/07/2013 16:18

The weather is indeed lovely, but I've not seen it as I've been indoors with a grouchy, cluster feeding baby. Luckily the Thrush medication is kicking in and feeds are feeling less like knives stabbing my boobs and more Luke cocktail sticks pricking my nipples. Just taken me 3 hours to persuade her to have a nap, in the end we both got naked, fed in cool room then I have her to her daddy while I ran away!

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FrustratedSycamoresRocks · 06/07/2013 19:58

Good to hear the meds have kicked in and feeding is getting less painful.

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kittykatsforever · 06/07/2013 20:22

I usually put dd in a sleeping bag but felt it was too hot today, I umed and Ahmed about a vest and cellular blanket but knew shed kick off the blanket so put her in a full sleep suit only cotton but with the toes and long sleeved, was thinking just that, what is everyone else doing?

Lorelei353 · 06/07/2013 21:26

I was going to ask the same thing.

ds usually sleeps with a vest on under a body suit and with a cellular blanket over him. Last night was too hot though. All day today he's only had his vest on and I think tonight we'll just leave him in a vest with the blanket over him. I was worried about his arms having nothing on them though