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November 2012 - Babies' first holidays: India, Australia, the world is their oyster

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StuntNun · 09/05/2013 07:25

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

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ChasingDaisy · 10/05/2013 11:03

Feature on constipation in kids on This Morning now...

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BigPigLittlePig · 10/05/2013 11:13




Just been talking to a doctor friend in the Solomon Islands. He's currently in an operating theatre removing a spear from a mans skull. Now that I would go back to work for in a heartbeat!
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YellowWellies · 10/05/2013 11:17

Clarella as it's silent reflux I'd avoid porridge and baby rice initially as they can stick to their throats and make acid burns worse. We're doing fine on purees at the mo.

BPLP yep CMPI definitely is a spectrum - to be able to detect it at all in BM makes them pretty sensitive. Haven't tried goat milk products. Not sure I love it enough to dare. Am going to risk soy at 8 months because I'm fantasising about a Chinese takeaway just once to see what happens Confused

Its not a sacrifice when the alternative is an agonised screaming baby, no sleep, screaming solidly for hours at a time. If I weren't doing this diet I would be sectioned within weeks! It makes my life easier and caring for him much more fun. If he didn't react so violently to it am sure I'd be much less strict.

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ChasingDaisy · 10/05/2013 11:18

My living room is tiny! Detective can vouch for that. The rocking to sleep actually involved me parking my bum on the back of the sofa and pushing him back and forth.

Is your doctor friend talking to you whilst removing said spear?

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BigPigLittlePig · 10/05/2013 11:36

I think hope he's the anaesthetist.

YW that's interesting about porridge/baby rice. F did have a bad night after her one and only taste of porridge, but she was coming down with a cold so it may have been that which upset her. Luckily I cook everything from scratch, so should be able to avoid milk products quite easily. Just to convinve MIL that chocolate is probably not a good idea...

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KatieLily12 · 10/05/2013 11:42

Am stomping back from town with a surprisingly chipper bean who has only slept 30 mins and no poo. Laden with Vaseline and prunes (sexy)

Well done chasing!

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GTbaby · 10/05/2013 11:49

Sry. Just skimmed thro.
Posted last night but think I lost it. Sad

Basically Canada trip is cancelled due to my SDP. Gutted as I wanted to see my nana. She's knitted a blanket for LO as well Sad

DFH is off to work in an hour n it will be my first time alone with LO since my pain started. A bit nervous tbh. I mean the only thing I struggle with is picking him up. N he is a chunker. So going to get DH to leave him nxt to me in bouncer. N pray he doesn't do a poo till someone comes to lift him out for me Blush

Have good days everyone.

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GTbaby · 10/05/2013 11:52

Katie how do you prep the prunes? LO poo is quite hard n he is starting to strain. So want to try things before it gets painful.
Dealing with my own constipation is hard enough!

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horseylady · 10/05/2013 12:07

I keep putting loose change in etiennes money box. I remember my parents doing the same for me!!! It's odd really as we don't ever have much spare change here!!

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StuntNun · 10/05/2013 12:43

I am a bad mummy, I gave a Monster Munch to J! He didn't eat it of course but did have fun smearing it all over his clothes.

Clarella there's no need to rush in to weaning unless you think he's ready and interested in food. You could give him a try and see how he gets on or wait a couple of weeks.

Amblyopia (lazy eye) isn't actually hereditary BigPig, it's caused by another eye problem such as strabismus (squint) or poor vision. In DS2's case he inherited extreme longsightedness from my mum, in both of them this led to the amblyopia. In my mum's case it wasn't diagnosed until she was an adult with the result that she is effectively blind in the affected eye. Me, my siblings and DS1 are all somewhat longsighted but only DS2's vision was poor enough to lead to the amblyopia. So I only need to get J's vision checked when he is six months. If he is very longsighted then he will need glasses but these should correct his vision sufficiently that he won't develop amblyopia. Just in case it wasn't clear, when someone says 'they have a lazy eye' they are usually referring to a squint. In fact amblyopia / lazy eye actually refers to the brain ignoring the signals from one eye, it is a different thing to a squint which is where the eyes are misaligned. It's normal for babies under six months to squint; if you see a squint after this age then it's best to get it checked out as the squint (strabismus) can lead to the lazy eye (amblyopia). Hope this all makes sense.

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Evilwater · 10/05/2013 12:59

What is it about banana, that baby evil hates so much? Even puréed he just won't swallow. He almost chocked on it....

I'm tossing up weather to go to the aquarium, hmm.......
Evil

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BigPigLittlePig · 10/05/2013 13:02

Ah right, thanks stunt - I stand corrected re: my wonky eye!
Sorry to hear you've had to cancel your trip gt, that's a real shame.
I'm still pinned to the sofa - F has been asleep for 2 hours now Shock. However, I did manage to unearth Fs record of feeds from February. Fuck me, but she was feeding every 90 minutes. So far today she's fed twice,. I know which I prefer! And the 2 hour cluster feeds every evening...

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Evilwater · 10/05/2013 13:03

Shit it's £12 to go in! That's just me.
Evil

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PetiteRaleuse · 10/05/2013 13:17

Went shopping this morning. For clothes. Not something I do very often in fact probably haven't been on a clothes shopping binge since before falling pregnant with DD1. But we had some H&M vouchers that were really a present for LO but she's already got loads of clothes so yes, I nicked them, and no, I don't feel bad

Then we went and had a bit of a binge in the electronics store and bought an iPad mini. Again, we had vouchers so don't feel too guilty :)

Then we had lunch in a pizzeria and the Italian waiters were all over the girls it was very sweet. Both behaved really well.

The nursery where I had DD1 for a while owes us over 600?. They have been stalling and were supposed to pay the first week of April. As a result my direct debit for the rent has come bouncing back to me which is very Blush

The problem is we have accounts in Lux and France. Our pay and family allowance goes into the Lux accounts. We then leave just enough in there to cover payments we make to Lux accounts, like my rent, and transfer the rest to France. Now we have to transfer money back again and we will get hit with intnational fees, just to pay the sodding rent. I am Angry with the nursery and their stupid sodding damage deposit. Looking forward to giving them an earful on Monday (the third in 3 weeks)

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ChasingDaisy · 10/05/2013 13:18


I am sofa pinned too, but willingly. Am going to use the pram for his first two naps and then have his big nap snuggled up together Smile He slept for 35 mins in the pram which is his normal length of time. He cried his scared cry when he woke up as he couldn't see me. Nice to feel wanted. He has also drained two 6oz bottles today which is awesome. Giving a 3oz bottle at his second night feed really seems to have helped his day feeding. Will reduce to 3oz of water and 2 scoops in a couple of days.
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PetiteRaleuse · 10/05/2013 13:19

evil banana seems to be a love it or hate it taste with babies, and it's sticky so they can gag quite easily.

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BigPigLittlePig · 10/05/2013 13:27

Chasing I have been making attempts to do the same as you re: night feeds, which has meant having her in my bed to settle her back to sleep without feeding, but last night she fed at 8pm, 2am and 8am so somethings helping. She's awake now squealing at her toys. A proper nap seems to have done her the world of good.

PR am Envy at shopping binge. I need to get some new clothes for work - haven't bought any for 4 years, and have a sneaking suspicion that they'll be hanging off me Sad

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ChasingDaisy · 10/05/2013 13:40

evil I was going to say that maybe banana is a bit too thick and sticky. Similar issue to mashed potato I guess.

pig it must he harder for you as you bf. I don't think he needs the 3am feed and he wakes at 5 anyway, which is when he comes in with me until 7 so I'm hoping we will be able to stretch him to 5am and I can then pacify him with cuddles. He needs his 11/12 pm feed as he always seems starving. Ultimate aim is to drop the 3am feed and have the first feed as a dream feed. It's going to be a long process though I think.

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BigPigLittlePig · 10/05/2013 13:47

It's a similar thing though - the easy thing to do is offer a boob, but I know that wake-ups that aren't at 11ish or 3ish, aren't for hunger/thirst. So I have just stopped offering a boob, and give her a cuddle instead. Once she's over her cold, I'll try to settle her into her own bed after wake-ups too. She still needs at least 1 overnight feed though, definitely.

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PetiteRaleuse · 10/05/2013 13:51

I have nothing suitable for work at all. If I go back I'll be cursing the fact I used the vouchers today

Phew. The rent did go through. We had changed the direct debit to another account and forgotten to cancel the one from mine. Luckily I am broke otherwise we'd have paid the rent twice. I really need to get my head round online banking.

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KatieLily12 · 10/05/2013 13:54

Lost who asked about prunes: I'm trying to soak them in water and give her a bit of the water. Then I'm going to purée down the fruits to add to things like oats, yoghurt etc when she gets there.

Did some leg cycle and after some yelling and straining she produced a v sticky green poo. Expected avalanche. She then threw up everywhere too.

Tried the apricot water for good measure and tried some Ella's kitchen purée that had prunes in too. She inhaled.

Can you cause constipation if they eat too much? I know they're supposed to set their own amounts but she just seems to eat so much?

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KatieLily12 · 10/05/2013 13:57

Interested by those breast feeding still. We seem to be increasing night feeds here? Also wondering how they drop feeds with solids. Do they just get shorter? Does anyone know?

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fruitpastilles · 10/05/2013 14:52

I had a lazy eye when I was little too, I had to have an operation on it when I was 2 and also wore an eye patch super ted ones how boyish until just before I started school. My vision is mostly ok but it does still turn in occasionally, mostly if I'm very tired or drunk

I'm unusually pinned to the settee, I think S is coming down with something, she's snotty and has screamed all afternoon and also didn't eat her puree, which she normally can't get enough of. Hope it's nothing to bad I can't stand to see her like this. She just screamed herself to sleep. Was supposed to be going to the cinema tonight an for a meal with dp, my mum was babysitting but I'm not leaving her like this, bit gutted though!

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TheDetective · 10/05/2013 15:21

I've finally had a call back from the Union sure I rang them nearly a month ago???!. I won't be getting my bank hols from maternity leave - it is Scotland only. If I want to challenge it, I can. Fuck, yes. But it will have to be a big case thing. I forget what he said.

What I was mostly pissed off over is the removal of unsocial enhancements if off sick. Gone.

You know, I think it's time to look for a new career. Not in the NHS.

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TheDetective · 10/05/2013 15:23

Not that I am off sick often - but pregnancy seems to fuck me up.

When I want another baby, I am 99% sure I will get hyperemesis again. So this will mean reduced pay if I am off sick. Which in turn will directly affect my maternity pay. And I've barely afforded the 6 fucking months off this time.

Fucking cunts.

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