November 2012 - Babies' first holidays: India, Australia, the world is their oyster

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

[Bryzoan]

Oh vq you are doing brilliantly. It is just a really tough situation. And it is your experience, together with your knowledge and your straight talking compassion that will make you exceptional as a hv. No comfort now though I am sure. No clue what to suggest as all this stuff confuses the pants off me. But i know you will get through it somehow. Thanks for bumping the nappy - will steal dh's iPad for a look tomorrow. Never, ever give sleep dust away!

Det I also meant to say sorry about the state of your fanjo. No words really, just sad for you. Hope the steroids help.

Stunt I was sorry to hear that ds won't get 100% vision now and also sorry about all he has been through, but glad to hear about the 90%. Dd has a wonky eye. Got an opthamology referral for that and a bunch of other stuff but she was so freaked out by the eye surgeon that he couldn't even get to look at her. We have a lot going on with her ATM so had decided to park the eyes for a while till she understands enough to handle it better but am a bit worried now that that may be the wrong call. Her combined eye vision currently seems good to me near and far, and she can see depth well enough to thread beads.

Luis - you ok? I'm worried your knees are making you too miserable to post much because you can't bear talking about them but they've taken over everything else? Perhaps we should all staple the working bits of our bodies together to make a bionic parent?

Nice to hear happiness kirrin and chasing

Oh and gt, saw your scan pick on fb - it is beautiful! And very exciting. Made me feel a tiny bit broody till I smacked myself round the chops with the quiche fish .

[KatieLily12]

Aaaaaaand we're still up. There's a pigeon cooing down the chimney and this is apparently very interesting to bean.

:face palm:

[StuntNun]

Bry it depends what is wrong with the eye. If it is just strabismus (squint) then it's best to treat sooner rather than later to get the best visual acuity. If it is amblyopia (lazy eye) then treatment is urgent as this is an issue with brain development and the sooner you start treatment, the quicker it will be resolved. Also young children can compensate much more for visual difficulties than an adult, my DS2 is so long-sighted that I can't see a thing though his glasses yet he manages okay at the swimming pool without them.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Morning all. So much to remember.

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Detective I hope the steroid injections work. Your cousin is hot. Is he single? Can we set him up with chasing ?

horsey he sounds like a pita

eliza you must be seriously pissed off

katie if you try natural remedies and the constipation doesn't improve get him seen by a GP. There's lots of bad advice about constipation online. We resisted medication as long as we could with DD1 due to crappy online advice. In that therer was good advice, like prune juice which didn't work on her, but also lots of bollocks. She ended up with it being so stressful each time she went that she started holding it in, and then when it did come out she got fissures and screamed the house down, which made her want to go even less. And I can't blame her. We sorted it with medication etc, took a few months, but I wish I had dealt with it earlier. The paed told me some horror stories of worse cases though. But you're a long way from that, tis just a warning

[MissMummy1]

No planned holidays here .

Horsey what a nightnare re FIL. I am lucky my ILs live in a different country. Not sure what to suggest though. My gran can be a PIA phoning multiple times a day and we still havent thought of a polite way to tell her to chill out

Nice cousin detective

No word from neighbours, although wife's car returned late last night. I am sure if it is anything serious we will find out in the fullness of time.

So much more I wanted to reply to but my mind is blank. M did okay last night only waking at 1 and then 6.30. I felt sick and did not sleep .

Expect mass rantings this weekend as my "I have had one child who my parents practically raised for me but I now think I am a parenting expert" SIL and our precocious niece (the 8yo who "hates babies") are coming to stay - despite my pleas to DP to put his foot down and tell them not to use us as a free hotel . He is working most of the weekend so I have had to take time off work. And the house is a tip so guess what I am doing today?! I am probably being a little unreasonanle but I am fed up of making a massive effort for his family who do nothing for us in return. And I can't stand the 8yo.

[MissMummy1]

Oh and thanks for the advice re my sister. I did try sitting her down for a talk when I picked M up from my mums last night. Explained to her how long it took me regain our mum's trust etc after I acted like a twat when i was 18. I tried explaining the consequences of going to live with our dad to her and she admitted he is blackmailing her. (The arsehole ) I hope some of what I said to her has stuck, really I do. But I also know my 18 year old self would have been sticking her fingers up to me in her head

Also she is a crap driver and is going to have no clutch left in her death trap car by the end of the week - I suddenly feel very old

[YellowWellies]

To all those in regression hell - we were there a fortnight ago and last night he did 8.30 til 6am! Then 6.45 til now . There is hope. I now have boobs like sea mines and am off to express some off for the freezer.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

No holidays here either but a business trip to Arnhem in June. Probably my last work jolly before I leave on enhanced parental leave or,preferably, VR dependant on whether I am aloud to aspire that way in a month or so.

I am back for a moment until work absorbs me again on Monday.

Weaning is still going very well I have now introduced lentils and he has had a roast chicken dinner at nursery which apparently he loved! He is waking a 4 every night, I stick some teething gel on and he goes back off, which is ok but have to say today I am knackered after the 4am waking, then a full day at work, come home, feed them, pjama them, put them to bed, feed us, do chores, dream feed and then put us to bed. Bleary eyed!

We are having a restructure at work. As you know I want to leave in September Anyway and I was going to apply for enhanced parental leave ( so that I would still be employed by the company for a year after mat leave and don't have to pay MA back). Anyway there has been a 20% cut at managers level and now it is coming down to us but I won't find out till end of the month if I am allowed to apply. I know my role is still there in the structure. So those if you who who pray, I would like VR please! . Unfortunately as I have to give three months notice of my enhanced parental leave it is all going happen at the same time.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

First weatabix. Loves it!! I have resurrected it for DS1too. Loves it.

We all love weatabix.

[Bryzoan]

Thanks stunt. Sounds like I ought to bite the bullet and try again then.

[BigPigLittlePig]

I shall cross everything for you sophia. Glad weaning is going well.
Katie dried apricots sounds like it ought to get things going!
Stunt I had a lazy eye growing up, managed to avoid patches but I had to have regular check-ups at the hospital. Do I need to get F checked?
Chasing thanks for sharing your sleepy dust - it worked! Admittedly, she spent the night in bed with me, but she slept 10-3, quick feed and a chatter, then 3.30-6, more chatter, and up at 7. Just managed a lovely shower while she naps. She's snoring her head off up there, bless her. The snot shows no sign of disappearing just yet.

Since stopping milk, she has begun cooing and chatting again, the farting has stopped, the eggy poo has gone, and she is sleeping better, despite a cold. Coincidence? Should I try having milk again to see if it all comes back?

[Passmethecrisps]

Hia!

to VQ! Thank you for worrying about me!

Just a quicky post - back later for chats.

cat has been on WWF whupping my ass so I assume she is just busy

Was back in the homeland yesterday visiting my parents as my sister and her baby were there. He is so super awesome! Bright as a button and full of energy. The size difference between the two babies is now very striking - pic on Facebook - but both are lovely!

[horseylady]

yw yes there is an end!!!! We have come out the other side too!!! (I think??!!)

mm I don't think there's much anyone can do. He'll just do what he wants to do anyway!! That's how he is!! Selfish.

[KatieLily12]

Morning all

OH in dog house- forgot to put apricots on to soak. I was soothing baby down all night so he might have got a right earful! Tried steamed apple again but this time added some innocent smoothie. What do you know she will use a spoon given the right motivation! ;)

Off to find prunes....

Big Friday vibes and get well wishes to all who need them right now!

[YellowWellies]

BPLP how long have you been off dairy? Whilst you'll see a change pretty quick it takes 3-6 weeks for it to leave both of your systems completely so I'd probably wait until then to try to reintroduce. J just got happier and happier during that period and every time I've accidentally had dairy since has been a shrieking ball of pain so I'm not going to try again until 12 months . The sleep, smiles and not seeing him in pain is worth it. My cousin's wife was able to reintroduce dairy slowly after 2 months off with only a few issues (it was a bit rushed as her DD was FTT and needed fats) so it might not be a long term thing.

[KatieLily12]

Agreeing with YW that results got better and better. Over last month had eased in tea, small amounts of goats cheese and a little cooked dairy. So far so good.....

[BigPigLittlePig]

YW it's been about a week. I haven't been terribly strict, but have stopped having milk on cereal, and cocoa/milkshakes. I still have a bit of grated cheese on pasta, and a splash of milk in a hot drink. Plus a yoghurt every day. Interestingly I read that the bacteria in yoghurt help to break down milk proteins, so yoghurt can be better tolerated (unless it's one of the ones where they've added milk solids!). I presume CMPI is a spectrum - J seems to be at the worst end of it, given your dietary restrictions. I'm hoping that F can get by with my current diet. God knows what to do about feeding when I go back to work though

[KatieLily12]

There's some really good goats yogurts with probiotics which I'm going to start introducing BPLP I also heard it helps keep their gut moving which explains a lot eh?

[TheDetective]

Fucking man. That is all.

[Evilwater]

Just had a look at my weaning leaflet, it's made by the milk council. No wonder it says yogurt makes a good breakfast

Horsey- I hope things improve soon.

For those with feeding problems, you are all great mums!
Evil

[MadamGazelleIsMyMum]

Yeah, ditto what evil said. The sacrifices some of you make and the hurdles some of you face are awe-inspiring. Am so lucky to have no issues on that front.

Today is my last day of freedom. Back to work on Monday. My secretary sent me an email y'day outlining the stationery arrangements she had made for me, and asked if I would like anything else. Um, 6 months more maternity leave, a lottery win, a magic overnight weightloss, new wardrobe, a new car, and nothing in the demanding client/lazy colleague category either. Hmmm. Chances of any of that in the slim-to-fuck-all bracket.

DD and DS at nursery today, am trying and failing not to do any chores and have some me time instead. But I don't know what that is anymore. Plus I am a sad act who actively enjoys and is soothed by sorting, tidying, cleaning. [loser emoticon]

MM that would give me rage. Like this -->

horsy that all sounds a bit shite.

Sophia fingers crossed you get what you want.

[BigPigLittlePig]

Ooh madam I like to clean too, am pinned to sofa surveying my shit-tip of a house, and contemplating how it will only get worse with the arrival of dsd in a few hours.

Fs cold is baaaad today - her nose and eyes are streaming. She has however found her voice so is "eh-ing" and "aah-ing" and "eep-ing" at Last of the summer wine. Obviously all this done from the safety of mummys lap as any other location would signify the end of the world

[Clarella]

hi all sorry been awol for a few days just stupidly busy.

hope you're all ok. brief catch up.

sorry to hear reflux still upsetting poor babies and affecting weaning

we've finally begun to get more omeprozole (sp?) into g and there's a significant difference with feeding - basically none of the hysterics when I know he wants to feed but seems to not be able. also mornings are less dramatic - he was always waking in pain but then not able to feed and so often quite hard going in the mornings, some afternoons too. read about silent reflux which seems to fit a lot. had one night with only one waking but since regressed back to two hourly but I know there's some teething going on.

g's bladder scan this avo

been worrying about weaning. whether will make reflux worse? given he doesn't actually puke but regurgitates and re swallows. not sure what to do - wait till 6 mo (5 mo today) or just try a bit of porridge or purrees etc?

[ChasingDaisy]

pig am so glad you got a better night

Cleaning relaxes me too. P took O out for an hour yesterday and I spent the time cleaning. I can't relax if there is housework to do.

Operation Unpin Chasing From The Sofa has just taken a positive step forwards. 30mins of pushing the pram around my living room has resulted in a sleeping baby! Too scared to stop pushing the pram yet though in case he wakes up