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The dust has almost settled. My assessment of how the BNP performed.

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daftpunk · 11/05/2010 14:07

Ok, they didn't make the political breakthrough I'd hoped for, but if you look at the results they are actually very encouraging.

The BNP got 563,743 votes (dispite only fighting half of all the available 650 seats)

They got 10% of the vote. That is pretty amazing for a small party, and under proportional representation those votes would result in seats.

NC will merge with someone (eventually?) and as one of his main aims is to push through PR it's all good for the BNP.

What do these results mean for the BNP ?

The tripling of the BNP vote on May 6th has some important implications.

Firstly, where they went head to head with UKIP and the Greens they thrashed them, they overtook UKIP in 178 seats, and UKIP have far more money than the BNP, and of course UKIP and the Greens are favoured by the media.

Secondly, while all minority parties were pushed to the edge by the bigger parties, the BNP's vote not only help up, but proportionally increased when compared to their June 2009 Euro election results.

The BNP are here to stay, and although the election was a disappointment in some respests, it was a clear sign that 1000's of people up and down the country support the policies of the BNP.

And let's not forget, political pundits had all but written off the Labour party after they lost the 92'election....

They went on to win 3 elections.

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complimentary · 15/05/2010 12:22

Sakura. I have three freinds all Iranians, but none of them wish to return to Iran, they also state they have no free speech. One women returns because her family are there, but she has to cover her head, which she hates, she still feels it 'home' and would like to return one day.

complimentary · 15/05/2010 12:27

Sakura. Does your Iranian freind support the group, No Sharia Here? I've met the women who started it, and told her "I thought she was very brave" She's an Iranian, and said to me that even if she gets death threats,(which she has) she will carry on. She's a braver woman than me.

freebirdx · 15/05/2010 12:32

this is better than eastenders and coronation street put together

complimentary · 15/05/2010 12:34

Freebirdx. I think the posters are aiming to please, I've seen worse. Preety tame so far.

Sakura · 15/05/2010 12:56

complimentary,
I'mSoNotTelling said
"You think it's great, that's fine. Like I say, she loves all this, so I'm going to

I don't know if he supports that group. Like your friends he loves his culture and country but he'll never ever go back to live in Iran because he can't stand the clerics and the way they impose fundamentalism on everyone. Once, when we were watching Question Time together they were all having a good argument and he said "This is why I love Britain"

willowflower · 15/05/2010 13:35

So Daftpunk spouts her objectionable views and The Shreiking Unhappy and a few other members of her support team come on and backs her up.

Most of the other rational thinking posters want to vomit.

Other posters who used to like mumsnet stay away.

Same old, Same old.

I was hoping with the poor election showing of the BNP that Daftpunk might give her facist threads a miss.

Quattrocento · 15/05/2010 13:43

There look to be a number of problems here - and some of them look like mental health issues frankly. So probably best steer well clear.

complimentary · 15/05/2010 14:15

Like I sya Sakura I've met quite a few Iranians and I find that they all say the same things, "we came here because we can be free, one of my freinds is Jewish and her family were thrown out at the time of the Shah, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, unless it's encitement, and we have laws dealing with that.

complimentary · 15/05/2010 14:17

quattrocentro. Do people have 'mental health' problems if they don't aagree with you?

complimentary · 15/05/2010 14:17

agree.

Quattrocento · 15/05/2010 14:20

No not at all - in fact I prefer it when people don't agree - usually makes for a productive debate

But when people get off on upsetting others, time after time, to the extent of the others leaving the forum ... that's just not normal, is it?

complimentary · 15/05/2010 14:32

Quattrocentro.. Then why do people commnet on the BNP posts, they must know what's coming,IMOH I think think people love a bit of argy, bargy, and many will rally to the defence of an underdog.

complimentary · 15/05/2010 14:32

comment.

daftpunk · 15/05/2010 15:33

QC;

I think you'll find you have been named in an article about Bullies on Mumsnet.

here

Maybe you would like to read it and explain why spoke to that poster like you did?

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Quattrocento · 15/05/2010 16:31

I think I've done this one already, but happy to explain again. That was a troll thread started by someone called Microbe. The troll then had a couple of newly registered or namechanging friends join in. Hence the reference to multiplying. The rest is self-explanatory and I thought, fair comment.

Quattrocento · 15/05/2010 16:43

However if you felt that I was bullying by searching for an explanation in MH issues, then I do of course apologies.

TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle · 15/05/2010 16:50

daftpunk, are you accusing quattro of being a bully? REALLY?

TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle · 15/05/2010 16:51

daftpunk, are you accusing quattro of being a bully? REALLY?

noddyholder · 15/05/2010 16:53

Good lord the 3 months on only music threads didn't last long.

TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle · 15/05/2010 16:57

either that or time has truly flown!!

daftpunk · 15/05/2010 17:02

Hmmm..... Suspected trolls are to be ignored or reported, not insulted. Why do you think that thread ended up in the Times ?

I have only been here 2.5 yrs, and in that time I have read quite a few articles about the "bullies on Mumsnet"....none of the articles had anything to do with any thread I had been on.

Another article here

I know both these articles have been linked on here before, but I just want them on this thread....y'see, I am being accused of being (pretty much) solely responsible for anyone who has ever left MN.

That is complete nonsense...as most people know.

PS;
I have never told anyone to "Fuck off to Netmums".....and I never will.

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TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle · 15/05/2010 17:06

no daftpunk, you are being accused of upsetting a huge amount of mners and stirring up trouble, the product of which is some leaving. lay off the victim act love, noones buying it!

noddyholder · 15/05/2010 17:09

We always end up with the poor me act its pitiful really.You said you kept to your word but you couldn't resist coming on here and stirring up again.

ConDemNation · 15/05/2010 17:12

Absolutely stupefying use of links we have never seen before! there by daftpunk, who I am sure is gleefully certain that she has singlehandedly discredited, oh, ONE WHOLE POSTER who has appeared on this thread to comment.

Nah.
We know what happened with Quattro, it was hideously poor journalism and completely arseworthy even at the time.

Daftpunk you are just making yourself look stupid.

daftpunk · 15/05/2010 17:13

I said yesterday I am posting on this thread because it was a thread I started, & because I started it I can still see what's being posted...so, if I something I feel needs replying to..I'll reply.

I am not posting anywhere else.

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