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UKIP. I'm voting for them. This is why;

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crystal123 · 20/04/2010 11:57

UKIP want us out of the EU, I love Europe can't stand the EU.We pay 40 million a day to them
1)72% of our laws are now made in Brussells, from fuel taxes, farming,fishing and immigration.
2)We pay £40 million a day to be in the EU.
3)The Two richest countries in Europe-Norway and Switzerland are not even in the EU.
4)Under labour we now have 3.5 million extra people living in this country. We need proper border controls. Nick Cleggs policy is to count people in and out of the country, and force them to work in 'regions' totally unworkable. UKIP would keep our proud tradition of helping genuine asylum seekers.
5)UKIP does not appear to be anti-christian as do the other parties. The labour parties spin doctor Alistair Campbell said they "don't do God!" I do.
6)UKIP believes in holding referendums for the electorate on key local and international issues. I like this.
7)Crime is now out of contol, UKIP would build more prisons. Last but not least, Lord Pearson (leader) is 'posh' and does not try to hide it.

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weloveyoumisshannigan · 26/04/2010 10:44

I think you'll find that illegal immigrants are not using public services to any great degee.

crystal123 · 26/04/2010 10:51

Heathen. Don't patronise me with your clap trap! you know that UKIP are the only party telling the truth on Immigration and you don't like it. Don't try to fool other people with your bxxlcks! this country has only had a 'points based system' for two years, in the past it didn't exist. Every time a MNs challenges your ridiculous ideas, you post tales of woe "you're scaremongering" I suppose you come from the Suburbs were mass immigration doesn't effect you, so you blow the trumpet for 'uncontrolled mass immigration' People like you are truly selfish, the poor are the most effected by immigration levels, but hey, ho, who cares about them? Certainly not liberals like you, that is why you live in foreigner free zones, like the nimbys you represent.
You are exactly the reason this OP has had 699 hits, so stick that up your pipe and smoke it!!

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crystal123 · 26/04/2010 10:52

Shannigan. Look it up!

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crystal123 · 26/04/2010 10:56

Daftpunk. I don't know, he must have got fed up, listening to rubbish posted on this site by Heathen and others. Roll on May the 6th.

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weloveyoumisshannigan · 26/04/2010 10:57

What do you mean 'illeagally or otherwise'? Surely 'otherwise' would be legally. When you emmigrate then you will be going legally. When people legally migrate here, they are coming legally. You are imposing yourself (or not) just as much as a foreign legal migrant is imposing herself here.

"I have been asked to go to these countries"

By whom? Have your neighbours got up a petition to have you deported or has Kevin sent you an invitation?

weloveyoumisshannigan · 26/04/2010 10:59

Why can't you tell me?

Is it because you are just bandying about soundbites which have no actual meaning?

crystal123 · 26/04/2010 11:01

shannigan. When you have a highly sought after skill, companies contact you......then they ask you to work in Australia or New Zealnd..... Obviously you've never been asked!

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crystal123 · 26/04/2010 11:02

shannigan. Just read the posts, instead of talking nonsense.

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daftpunk · 26/04/2010 11:02

True, I'm sure he's got better things to do....wish I had...lol

Take no notice of TheHeathenofSuburbia....all she can do is patronize ( a sign of low intelligence ime).....she also has an unhealthy obsession with the BNP....? ?

crystal123 · 26/04/2010 11:07

Daftpunk. BNP and heathen. Ah, now we have it! Heathen's married to Nick Griffin, she's the real plant, she's here to stir things up! good on you Heathen!

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crystal123 · 26/04/2010 11:10

Daftpunk. Have a nice day! See you later for some more lovely banter!.

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daftpunk · 26/04/2010 11:14

....maybe we could talk about something other than UKIP for 10 minutes....you can tell me what music you're into....

Catch you later.....

weloveyoumisshannigan · 26/04/2010 11:15

So Australian companies are allowed to ask british workers to work for them but you think British companies shouldn't be allowed this competative advantage?

I am self employed. I don't see anything wrong with not being headhunted despite your clumsy attempt to insult me.

I do have family who live abroad after being either headhunted or transfered by their company to other offices and I don't see anything wrong with that. I just think that British based companies should also be able to fill their skills shortages with migrant workers too. If you think they shouldn't, I think its hypocritical of you to say its ok for foreign based businesses to do it.

Why won't you tell me what cultural suicide means?

TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 26/04/2010 15:22

Do calm down, crystal.

I live in Birmingham, as it happens. It is mulitcultural, vibrant, and a great place to live.

Yes, we've had a points system for two years... so we have a points system.

I assumed you didn't know that, since you said we had no points system, and 'uncontrolled mass immigration'.

So did you know that when you posted, or were you just being economical with the truth?

Coolfonz · 26/04/2010 15:25

Another myth that fascists and racists come out with, one that has been parroted by a lot of the centre right - like Labour MPs even - is that immigration undercuts wages. Idiocy, but a useful distraction for banking and corporate power.

I deal daily with economists from the biggest companies in the UK, it's a basic fact in their neo-liberal economic ideology that markets cannot function without slack, without extra idle capacity.

So in the employment market there is what is called natural or structural unemployment levels, around 5-7pc of the workforce.

So if you have 30mn jobs then you need unemployment around 1.5mn to make the market function correctly.

If you sent every Jew, black person, Asian, Irish and continental European immigrant 'back home' you wouldn't have extra jobs, all that would happen is the economy would shrink. So instead you would have 25mn jobs and 1.25mn unemployed.

Immigrants don't undercut wages, they tend to create waged positions instead. Have a look at the UK catering trade as an example. Even fish and chips aren't British...it came from Ashkenazi European Jews...that's job creation for you...

TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 26/04/2010 15:39

"Take no notice of TheHeathenofSuburbia....all she can do is patronize ( a sign of low intelligence ime).....she also has an unhealthy obsession with the BNP....? ?"

I do try not to patronise you, DP, but when you post half-baked arguments with no basis in reality, and then bugger off and ignore all the questions and opposing evidence that people post to you, it does get a tad frustrating.

But you can rest assured on two counts:

  1. I will be challenging your BNP shit wherever on MN you post it, and

  2. when the BNP come knocking on your door (because none of your family are white CofE, right?), it'll be me and the 'middle class idiots' like me who will stand up for you. I might even come and visit you in Yarls Wood if you like.

daftpunk · 26/04/2010 16:03

CF; The BNP don't want to send every Black/Asian/Jewish/Irish person "back home"...you're not keeping up.....all the BNP want to do is stop the Islamification of the UK, and deport all illegal immigrants....

The BNP have a problem with third world & Muslim immigrants....I don't think they give a toss about the Italians/French/Germans/Australians....tbh

Hullygully · 26/04/2010 16:05

I haven't read all the thread because I struggle with long words, but I have always wanted to give Robert Kilroy Silk a good old seeing to. And I don't like dusky maidens neither because they put the prices up.

noddyholder · 26/04/2010 16:20

Why were they insulting mixed race relationships and the children that mixed race couples have?What has that to do with islam or immigration or asylum? they obviously consider them 'less' than white people so you better watch out!

Coolfonz · 26/04/2010 16:21

"I?m going to level with you. I?d never say this on camera, yeah, and you can say this to whoever you want, ?cos it?s true. The Jews have been thrown out of every country, including England. There?s not a single European country the Jews have not been thrown out of. And let?s face it, David, when it happens so many times it?s not just persecution. There?s no smoke without fire?."

Mark Collett of the BNP.

"Perhaps one day, once by being rather more subtle we?ve got ourselves in a position where we control the British broadcasting media, then perhaps one day the British people might change their mind and say, ?Yes, every last one must go.? Perhaps they will one day, but if you offer that as your sole aim to start with, you?re gonna get absolutely nowhere. So, instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity".

Nick Griffin.

Richard Edmonds, a veteran BNP member and life long friend of BNP founder John Tyndall, is a member of the BNP?s elite Advisory Council leadership team and is a regular speaker at BNP meetings. Edmonds has previously told journalists that the BNP ?are 100% racist? and published a newspaper called ?Holocaust News? which claimed the murder of millions of Jews by the Nazis never happened and is an ?evil hoax?.
Edmonds continues to support Holocaust deniers and in March 2010 travelled to Germany to celebrate the release of Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel from prison. Zundel openly admires Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany and has published a book called The Hitler We Loved & Why.

Hullygully · 26/04/2010 16:26

Does no one else want to shag the lovely Robert? What about his tan and silver hair? Phwoooaaarrrr.

noddyholder · 26/04/2010 16:27

god hully he is hideous

Hullygully · 26/04/2010 16:28

Noddy! How could you? Don't you remember his lovely morning talk show? He was so compassionate and sensitive and handsome with it. I just drooled.

noddyholder · 26/04/2010 16:30
Grin
daftpunk · 26/04/2010 16:35

CF; That's all been heard before, NG is quite clear about who he wants out of the country, and it certainly isn't the Jews...

Oh btw, Peter Mandelson was in the Communist party once.....don't you just love the Communists...such peace loving people....

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