UKIP. I'm voting for them. This is why;

[crystal123]

UKIP want us out of the EU, I love Europe can't stand the EU.We pay 40 million a day to them
1)72% of our laws are now made in Brussells, from fuel taxes, farming,fishing and immigration.
2)We pay £40 million a day to be in the EU.
3)The Two richest countries in Europe-Norway and Switzerland are not even in the EU.
4)Under labour we now have 3.5 million extra people living in this country. We need proper border controls. Nick Cleggs policy is to count people in and out of the country, and force them to work in 'regions' totally unworkable. UKIP would keep our proud tradition of helping genuine asylum seekers.
5)UKIP does not appear to be anti-christian as do the other parties. The labour parties spin doctor Alistair Campbell said they "don't do God!" I do.
6)UKIP believes in holding referendums for the electorate on key local and international issues. I like this.
7)Crime is now out of contol, UKIP would build more prisons. Last but not least, Lord Pearson (leader) is 'posh' and does not try to hide it.

well it seems like a waste of a vote but good luck to ya

itsmeohlord. I'm afraid you implied that people on MN were all educated including yourself, and I could not possibly reply to your post. So my comprehension of your part of this thread was clear. Stick to politics and steer clear of personal insults and comments, because it makes you look very uneducated, ill mannered and undignified.

'Lord Pearson (leader) is 'posh' and does not try to hide it. ' and your point 5:

what has this got to do with anything? i do not believe god has a place within politics. who you worship and where you are on the social ladder should not interfere with or be used to aid your popularity in political stakes.

crystal123 you have still not answered my question?

Am feeling a bit like Jeremy Paxman...

UKIP, the acceptable face of racism.

Chipmunk. It is my observation of a party. If I like a party and they are not hostile to Christians as the Labour party appears to be then of course I will vote for them. Quite like people voting for the Christian Party because of its beliefs.

Have I mistakenly put my invisibility cloak on...?

Helvg. Yes I did See Lord Pearson, and it was not his best performance. He is not a slick politician, say as Tony Blair was.

Shame on you, UKIP voters.

They are racist scum.

There was a little congregtion of them canvassing on my local high street and not only were they spouting dangerous, hateful lies ('backed up' by dodgy statistics) but they were exceptionally thick.

UKIP - the party for racists who don't have the bottle to vote BNP.

helyg- I can see you!

I thought you wanted to vote conservatives - its all you have gone on about in your recent posts.

UKIP are all loons. My Mum has a UKIP candidate in her area and she cant even construct a sentence properly, no punctuation or anything!

Oh and Nigel Farage is a prize prat!

Love him or hate him Tony Blair is a gifted orator, as a leader should be. A bit polishing on his presentation skills would not amiss on Posho UKip dude.

Hurrah, I'm not invisible

It wasn't the slickness of the presentation that worried me, it was the fact that he didn't seem to be aware of some of the points from his own party's manifesto?

Now call me old fashioned, but I would personally expect any parliamentary candidate, let alone the leader of the party to be au fait with their own policies.

Not being slick I can handle (in fact I am not a fan of David Cameron as I find him too slick), but surely he should have read his own manifesto!

We have a UKIP candidate here, but he is also standing in another constituency, does anyone know how that works?

GOod point about California. Hugely rich in natural resources, but on its knees because of the use of referenda to decide everything.

In a country governed by referenda, what do you do when the electorate votes simultaneously for massive increases in public spending and massive tax cuts? Because that's what happens.

Sorry, I stand corrected - the woman I am talking about is standing for the BNP

As someone else said earlier, Lord Pearson made a complete idiot of himself on the Election Show last night. Nothing whatsoever to do with him being a "not a slick politician like say Tony Blair". He is a single issue leader who doesn't appear to have a clue what is in his own party's manifesto. Even when talking about those bits he did know, he demonstrated that they were ill thought out policies that lacked research as to the practicalities of implementing them.

Your comment about Labour being anti religion is total nonsense. Tony Blair is a committed Christian and Gordon Brown is the son of a Church of Scotland Minister. Granted, this does not necessarily mean he has the same beliefs.

I would vote UKIP too. UKIP made history winning 13 MEP seats last June beating Labour, LibDem and the Greens yet Mumsnet is not showing UKIP on its pie chart. This is very biased.

Labour and Conservative MPs lied to us about a referendum over the Lisbon Treaty and handing over even more power to the EU. Not a single person in this country has had a vote on anything other than a common market/trading relationship with the EU yet successive labour and conservative governments continue to hand power to the EU. Nick Clegg is pro EU and wants us to lose the £ asap. I don't believe a single word any of the LIB,LAB,CON MPs say.

Well, whether they "do God" or not is rarely the point, though if someone (of any party) claimed s/he was doing because of faith, I would have a problem...

"2) We pay £40 million a day to be in the EU."

OK, and how much comes back to the UK in the form of grants and agricultural subsidy, etc ?

"3) The Two richest countries in Europe-Norway and Switzerland are not even in the EU."

Perhaps worth some research as to why.

In the case of Norway, I think they have been stashing away large sums from their share of North Sea Oil. Nothing to do with whether they are, or are not, in Europe.

With Switzerland, I suspect their background with banking, and specialist manufacturing, such as watches, helped. Also as a trading nation in between various countries. All was not peaceful because of the mix of people there, and a civil war back in the 1800s was responsible for a constitution that ensured much greater harmony between cantons than we have between England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.

Before the current economic crisis, Switzerland was behind Iceland and Ireland at 6th position in per capita GDP ranking, so "being outside the EU" doesn't of itself prove to be essential to have some economic success.

"7) Crime is now out of contol, UKIP would build more prisons. Last but not least, Lord Pearson (leader) is 'posh' and does not try to hide it."

OK, so they would build more prisons, and make "life" sentences mean "life", so will have to continue building more prisons by the sound of it. I do hope these prisons will have very large perimeter walls so they can enclose a couple of farms, else we taxpayers will be spending more on keeping prisoners in the long term than on education or NHS combined.

As for "posh"... so what - anyone who is unashamed about a party slogan of "Sod the lot of them" isn't exactly "mature". How many children get told off for saying words like "bloody" and "hell"... As for "sod" they might ask what it means, too!

I understand not all candidates are happy about that party slogan. Just checked the blurb from a candidate here, and his leaflet says "45 million" (so one of the figures is wrong). His "claim to fame" is that until about two years ago he was a local councillor, he's now a community councillor (so dropped down a rung).

Just checked and it says his "local issues" are (a) keeping a close eye on how money is spent by the council and (b) ensure that the way taxpayer money is spent on MP expenses is brought under strict control.

In the first place, the MPs may well "comment" on how money is being spent, but unless they attend a good deal of the council meetings will not have heard much of the discussion, and could put their foot in their mouth trying to reverse some decisions. Seems to me that MPs are not necessarily respected by the councils in their constituency, and throwing their weight around makes no friends at all.

As for the spending on expenses, it's not exactly a "local issue" and to a large extent has already been dealt with, so this is more "hot air" than not, in my view.

To go to the point about referendums to decide on local and international issues, I agree with PW.

There are some issues that you just cannot ask the public to vote on. I mean, this is the country that voted to keep Jedward in BGT for weeks.

National security, taxes - who would vote for higher taxes.

Switzerland has a very direct democracy, to the point that it makes change incredibly difficult. Everything happens very sloooooowly here.

His comments about Muslim women is just hideous. What a tosser

policywonk - I know Switzerland doesn't use referenda for everything, but it has been cited as an example country we should model ourselves on, by crystal123.

Maybe if we had laws stopping people from having a shower or bath after 2300, and getting every man to learn how to use a gun (and then for nearly every home to still have one or more guns) UKIP could forget their plan for "life meaning life" in prisons as any burglars or rapists might end up in a coffin.

Lord Pearson was on Radio 4 at lunchtime, and was introduced with a few bits of UKIP policy.

One figure which struck me was a 31% tax across the board to replace income tax and NI.

Not sure about your families, but it would be pretty damaging to most earners in my family. My sisters are all near retirement, as are their husbands, but their children would be hit, and consequently the grandchildren too.

That tax level might be attractive to people currently hit by 40% or higher taxes, but the Lib Dem plan to scrap tax on income below 10,000 would have a lot going for it for students and anyone with a part-time job, and for someone moving from benefits to part-time and then later trying for full time work.

Oh look, the only person to support the OP is a new posted and this is her first post.

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