Channel 4 undercover re Farage

[Ihateboris]

Oh dear...how's he going to explain this?
Https://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-nigel-farage-filmed-undercover-celebrating-secret-new-foreign-donations

I don't think the original delay related to the protestors. He said he was advised by the police- but they denied that.
You seriously think they spent 20 minutes after a warning of a safety concern of some kind, writing him lines to use with hecklers?
Ok
So any planning for a large gathering like that it has a risk.assesdment which defines roles. This is a health and safety requirement. And included in that would be what happens in the eventuality of heckling. And it's not going to include winding the crowd up.
Running a political conference is a serious responsibility.

Well, I suppose they can afford to pay someone to do the ppts now. Instead of "the bloke down the pub".

Hey, I am not being " blokedownthepubist" here. There is absolutely nowt wrong with keen activists being involved.

I just wonder if Farage will sort out a discount for them after his mates have bought all the pubs and done their corporate reorganizations of them.

@DuncinToffee

Now why is it so difficult for a seasoned politician as Farage to properly declare donations, especially as it is as simple as filling in a piece of paper

Is answered by your earlier post:

Small boats have nothing to do with Reform's donations and failure to declare/scrutinise them.

@Warmlight1

Care to enlighten us how you know - that someone gave Nigel Farage / reform donations in Saudi Arabia with no strings attached at all

It comes from the UK legal definition of donation which has already been posted

It's a UK dictionary and these have come from international sources.
So where would the word donation even come from?
If they threw him.a party- would they think it was a donation?
He's supposed to declare it and didn't. That makes it automatically Sus.

Quote " If they threw him.a party- would they think it was a donation?
He's supposed to declare it and didn't. That makes it automatically Sus.

I just loked it up. And the answer is yes. It's a donation and needs to be declared if over 500 quid.

"Under PPERA, a donation is money, goods or services given to a party without charge or on non-commercial terms, with a value of over £500. Some examples of donations include: a gift of money or property sponsorship of an event or publication subscription or affiliation payments free or specially discounted use of an office"

Source

Political party donations and loans in Great Britain (electoralcommission.org.uk)

I think you are fine if your local party club does a prize bingo in a bowling club. So long as it's not over 500 quid. Would a fundraiser in Dubai or wherever raise less than 500 quid ? I suspect not.

Edit to add.

Then again, maybe they threw the Reform party at one of the migrant camps. That might get less than 500 quid in the hat.

I think the point is- yes under our law it's classed as a donation assuming there's no agreement of any gain. But that assumes the intention on either side. To what extent can we assume that's the case? Because the gifters of the donation are not under UK law and there's no written basis for it.
Just seems obvious if they are throwing him a party they will want something.
Wasn't it in the Epstein files- ' we have Farage in the uk'
Well have him for what and who is we exactly.
And many people are saying it's some large plan with crip toe.
But they are also all very misogynist. Otherwise they wouldn't see him undermining assaulted women and give him 70 odd million pounds.
I wonder if they realise what a driver that could be? Hormones. Testosterone. Being very emotional. Being skilled in very narrow areas. Watching the conference and thinking the poor man he needs a bit of support?

Yeah. Erm... quote " It comes from the UK legal definition of donation which has already been posted"

I am following this thread, and I think I have read all the posts, and I just looked back a few pages to check that claim. Because when you say "the UK legal definition of donation which has already been posted", do you mean this, that your good self posted ?"

Donation in English Law: Legal Framework, Tax Implications, and Recent Developments - Express Law Solutions

Because that is the definition for tax reasons. Not political, and nor does it even mention the rules for political donations. Not that I can quickly see anyway.

The rules for political donations are here-

Political party donations and loans in Great Britain (electoralcommission.org.uk)

It is those rules that apply. Not a generic tax site. Really, if you are going to claim " this is the definition", then handwave away what other posters are saying, should you not be referencing the correct definition in context ?

From MY link.

"A party registered with the Electoral Commission under the PPERA. Parties may be registered under the Great Britain or Northern Ireland register and they must comply with the controls and responsibilities set out under PPERA."

Is it not these rules and definitions that are in play here ? And not generic tax law ?

Apologies if someone did post the correct definition as per the electoral commission.

Oh- so it's only permissable if it's a UK voter?
Who does he know that's a UK Voter in Dubai?
If friends who are in Reform throw him a party is that classed as a donation?
The rate he is consuming oysters and champagne, that alone is going to hit well over £500!

NB the treasurer is Nick Candy. Perhaps he didn't know about the alleged party? But it's him supposed to report it.

I suppose it can be difficult to keep up with a man of the people who is in the jet set crowd.

A quick search of Nick Candy, first hit on my web

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/reform-uk-nick-candy-tory-donor-nigel-farage

"The property tycoon joined the Tory Party in 2009 and donated more than £270,000 to the Conservatives between 2020 and 2022 alone. "

Yeah. Not elite at all. High end luxury is what he does. I am surprised he has the time to file Nigel's paperwork. He has his own 2 billion to look after.