Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

Sorry but you have proven nothing.

So are you saying @Justmerach that those Christians that Parker mentioned in various countries are not the right kind of Christian or that they don't pray in the correct way? I really don't understand why God would help you and not others in probably what would be more dire need. It's puzzling.

This is about showing that Jesus Christ is the Only Begotteon Son of God in the scripture alone which is the Holy Bible and that has been shown. These scriptures are just some of them that was used. That simple arguments means that you find these in the Bible to demonstrate that Jesus is the Only Beggeton Son of God and nothing more than that. The aim of the thread I think may be some people confused it. The aim of the thread wasn't that lofty and has been evidently supported.

Jesus continues his presence us by giving the Holy Spirit as Christians which he has given to many believers to help them in their journey with their faith. Jesus to appoints the roles in the church.

(2 Samuel 7 12-13)
"I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son"

(Isaiah 9:6)
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

(Isaiah 11;1)
This is a prophecy of Jesus Christ. There is much mentioned about Jesus to come in this scripture.
"And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots"

(Matthew 3 16:17)-This is said from God the Father
"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased"

(Matthew 17:5)- This is said from God the Father
"While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him"

(Matthew 16 13-19)
This is Said by Jesus Chirst confrming he is the Son of God again.

“When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven".He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well"

(Luke 22:70)
This is said by Jesus Christ confirming that he is the Son of God
"Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am".

(John 3:16) - This is said by Jesus Christ to Nicodemus. Jesus said he is the Only Begotten Son.
" For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.".

(John 4 25:26)-Jesus said himself that he is the Messiah in John 4.
"The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he".

The Incarnation-birth of Jesus Christ-

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus and the gospel of Mark notes the name Emmanuel (Mark 1). He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David." He the coming of the birth of Jesus conceived by a virgin was prophesied in the book of (Isaiah 7), "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" and the prophecy in (Mark 1) was fulfilled.

(John 14:28)
This is Jesus about sending his believers the Holy Spirit.
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you".

You haven’t shown anything - several posters have posted out to you where the Bible is incorrect, misleading, blatantly impossible and factually false.

There are many Christians in the world who claim to have been healed by Christ or helped. There are those at Lourdes where this is claimed and also by the Eucharist and many others. A woman who converted from Islam to Christanity called Gulshan Esther got healing as well and wrote a best selling book called the Torn Veil.

I don't think it is a good idea to compare people with how God treats us . We all have our own relationship with God as our heavenly Father. Those who lose their lives and our Christian and innocent God will take care of them I thiink.

I can write that there will be suffering in the world at the end times especially. This is some what Matthew 24 notes-This is some things that will take place and considered as part of course that has to happen.

"And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places."

God is more about supporting people in the individual level in their own lives today through the Holy Spirit than directing wars like he used to as God of Jacob and holding governments to account. Corruption and inequality need to be supported in governments. I have written that we need to support those in need and many charties are doing so and people doing mission work are going into these areas.

Whether you believe what is the Bible is a different thing entirely and is the not the question here. You yourself have a right not to believe it if you do not wish to.
It is has been shown in the Holy Bible alone (which was the main aim of this post) where it says that Jesus is the Son of God and also shown where it is written where he says himself that he is the Only Begetteon Son of God in the Bible.

I thought that I might do this. I just wanted to write that the end scripture in last few posts should be Matthew 1 in the incarnation and not Mark 1.. I will repost that below.

The Birth of Christ-

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus....and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David."

This was also written about the birth of Jesus in (Matthew 1:23) " Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

The coming of the birth of Jesus conceived by a virgin was also prophesied in the book of (Isaiah 7), "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" and the prophecy in (Matthew 1:23) was fulfilled.

“I can write that there will be suffering in the world at the end times especially. This is some what Matthew 24 notes-This is some things that will take place and considered as part of course that has to happen.”

What suffering will there be at the end times?

The Bible states that people will undergo sorrows and afflications themselves. Some people may get this at different times than others. Some people think that we are in the end times now. A forum member commented on this here. I think that I agree with them as well but none of us know when the Lord will return and I am not worried about it myself.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/christian-mumsnetters/5439888-end-times-discussion?reply=148347492&utmcampaign=reply&utmmedium=share&utm_source=copylink&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share&utm_source=copylink

(Matthew 24:8-13)

People unfortunately face sorrow all time - so it’s no different from now? Will we even notice?

I just think that using a document to prove that this same document is the truth is a circular argument and therefore proves absolutely nothing. Ultimately this is about belief, and belief cannot be proven. It's literally a leap of faith.

I also don't understand why OP wants to think there is 'proof'. Isn't faith enough? Why does OP feel the need for validation?

This thread was about scripture really. There was a post the same day that this thread was created that was detailed that said that Jesus was not the Son of God and it had things I wanted to respond to, but the thread was closed due to maximum posts being reached. I have seen some posts online to by Jewish people who do not seem to know where it says that Jesus is the redeemer and Messiah in the Torah.

The thread is not about any validation needs and it is not a personal thread. This thread was to address the inaccuracies concerning theology that some people have about Jesus being the Son of God in the Holy Bible by scripture.

This thread is not about discussing the merits of peoples faith or trying to convince others of it. People have asked questions, not created by myself. I think that the objective the original post has been reached.

Moving On-
Anyway here is another scripture from Isaiah 53 a prophecy to come of Jesus Christ.
(Isaiah 53 3-9)
"He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.”
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Totally agree. Circular arguments are daft, pointless, and a fallacy. But what we are getting here even goes beyond circular. It is mis representations and wrong interpretations of the Bible.

Eg, to quote @Justmerach "

"(Isaiah 11;1)
This is a prophecy of Jesus Christ. There is much mentioned about Jesus to come in this scripture.
"And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots""

This is a claim made about a bit of the Bible that is simply not true, even in the context of the circular argument.

I could produce loads of Jewish scholarly articles explaining how Jesus was not the messiah. And they should know, it is their book. It is their religion.

And as been pointed out time and time again in this thread, according to the Bible it 'self, Jesus had no human father, so he CANNOT be descended from anyone. A PP also pointed out that it was paternal lineage that mattered, and the PP supplied substantial evidence to support that point.

But the OP just keeps repeating the same debunked stuff all the time

Well you certainly have asked a lot of questions not about the thread topic though, but about what you have said you enjoy doing looking for Bible "errors."

I know what I have read by people about the Bible about this thread topic and that is why I wrote this post and I have shown where it says it in the Old Testatment that God will have a Son and I have also from the New Testatment to shown this. I asked a Jewish person in the religious section of a multiple faiths section in a thread asking any of us to ask them any questions. Everyone was respectful. I asked why they believe in the Torah but do not believe where it says that God will have a Son.

Now, they replied basically that they couldn't make out from the scripture where it said this. So, instead of taking up their thread I went away and researched based on what I had been reading from others to and wrote a thread with information, which is the point of the internet. Things like the root of Jesse it is not a common prophecy of Jesus, but it is about Jesus. Some of the scripture needs to be explained further.Some of the scripture may not be understood in some cases or they may have others views.

The question has been answered and shown. I think that the question is done and the thread should be wrapped as I tried to do many posts ago..

Moving On

This is another scripture-
(John 14: 8-13)

“ Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.”

My view - Mary and Joseph had a son (the normal way - no virgin birth). They called him Jesus. He tried numerous different jobs but got himself into trouble with the wrong crowd. Got arrested and charged. He was tried and found guilty. He was sentenced to death by hanging. He died. End of story.

The world carried on and will continue to do so.

Your quotes in Italics.

"I asked a Jewish person in the religious section of a multiple faiths section in a thread asking any of us to ask them any questions. Everyone was respectful. I asked why they believe in the Torah but do not believe where it says that God will have a Son."

"Now, they replied basically that they couldn't make out from the scripture where it said this."

So you asked a random Jewish person, and they said no. But they were nice to you about it.

"Things like the root of Jesse it is not a common prophecy of Jesus, but it is about Jesus."

Most likely because it is nothing to do with Jesus.

You are admitting it is "not a common prophecy of Jesus", but you keep insisting it is, no matter what anyone says.

"Moving On"

Well no.

Here is a Jewish article on why Jesus is not the Jewish messiah.

Jews for Judaism | SIX REASONS WHY JEWS DON'T BELIEVE IN JESUS

Note reason #1 in this article.

"Reason #1 – The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David AND King Solomon – Jesus did not qualify.

The Messiah must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct descendant of King David & King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son (Numbers 1:1-18).

There is no evidence that Jesus really had this pedigree, and the Christian Bible actually claims that he did not have a “birth-father” from the tribe of Judah descending from King David and King Solomon (Matt. 1:18-20)."

Jesus does not even meet the most basic requirement. And the early Christians totally messed this up by insisting a virgin birth.

That is ironic really. No genealogy in the first gospel, Mark. The error was spotted, so genealogies were added in Mat and Luke... and they were both different.

And nobody spotted the obvious plot hole. The virgin birth meant no male lineage.

So you cannot use your rod of Jesse as your evidence.

No, they couldn't make out in the scripture who it was about and how it related to Jesus Christ. Try and not invent things people do not say. Perhaps do some research to as it is known to be about Jesus Isaiah 11. Jesus is known as the Lion of Judah and has David roots.

From your own post above:

"Now, they replied basically that they couldn't make out from the scripture where it said this"

They said no. That's what that means.

This is like if you were saying Maggie Thatcher was a member of the labour Party. And the labour Party saying " we have no record of that in our membership lists".

It means no.

Research on Isaish 11 ? How about this? From the same Jewish site.

Jews for Judaism | Does Isaiah, chapter 11, refer to Jesus?

Quote : "Isaiah 11 is to be taken as a homogeneous unit. There is no evidence to suggest divisions within the chapter whereby some verses are fulfilled in a first coming and the rest are to be fulfilled during a second coming. There certainly is no prophecy indicating that Jesus is the Messiah."

They say no.

No .They couldn't make out from scripture who it was about, David or Jesus. So, some of the scripture need more explaining. You seem to not have researched it and can do this research.

I just did the research. This entire thread is full of people doing research. I posted a researched article from a Jewish site.

Just because it does not say what you want it to, does not mean it is not research.

I don't know what those people know of Jesus and the New Testatment. Research clearly supports this being Jesus Christ for multipe reasons. Some of what is written is about the New Earth. Research you read the scripture usually the full version and may be a few sources to and reflect on it to form opinions. You can have thoughts, but that is not research.

Jesus is the vine in John 15 and Christians are his branches which was spoken in John 15.

This is from Jeremiah-

(Jeremiah 23: 6-7)

“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.”

Isaiah 11
"And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins".

John 15
" I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

1. The bible is full of contradictions and discrepancies.
2. The bible is full of violence, genocide, prejudice, and injustice, often commanded by god.
3. The bible’s descriptions of nature and natural history are hopelessly at odds with science.
4. The bible was written by ancient and primitive people, and has no value to modern people anymore.
5. Christians can’t even agree on what it’s saying, so who cares if it’s true or not!

I am not going to comment on all your points but write that the Bible is more than enough for me. I don't live a materialistic life and like simplicity in life. It meets my needs and more. You get help to deal with the modern life through the The Holy Spirit which Jesus Christ sends believers today because of faith. There is also the Gifts of the Holy Spirit which can support some people with protection and discernment of evil. It can also give some people wisdom and knowledge also. This is what is needed in the modern age that we live.

This is what is needed in the modern age that we live.

This is what YOU need in the modern age that we live in. That does not apply to anyone else. I'm perfectly able to live the simple life without the Bible or anything in it.

I asked a Jewish person in the religious section ... why they believe in the Torah but do not believe where it says that God will have a Son.

@Justmerach - Are you saying that you started this thread in an effort to convince Jews that Jesus was the son of God?