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Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

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Justmerach · 19/01/2026 15:47

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
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Justmerach · 25/02/2026 09:06

pointythings · 25/02/2026 09:01

This is what is needed in the modern age that we live.

This is what YOU need in the modern age that we live in. That does not apply to anyone else. I'm perfectly able to live the simple life without the Bible or anything in it.

Somebody made the point that the faith has no relevance in the modern age. This is not accurate. The faith is equipped to cope with the modern age and I was referring to this. I am not suggesting to anyone what to do, but was replying to somebody about this point. People do what they feel is best.

However, the faith can cope with the modern world and that is why I replied. This is something that Hector Avalos to wrote a book about, that the faith cannot cope with the modern age and it i s not so.

There are uncountable people who have been given those gifts to in the faith and as I wrote before some of the replies are led by what has been posted by others, which is not about the topic of the thread.

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RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 09:13

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 08:40

I don't know what those people know of Jesus and the New Testatment. Research clearly supports this being Jesus Christ for multipe reasons. Some of what is written is about the New Earth. Research you read the scripture usually the full version and may be a few sources to and reflect on it to form opinions. You can have thoughts, but that is not research.

Jesus is the vine in John 15 and Christians are his branches which was spoken in John 15.

This is from Jeremiah-

(Jeremiah 23: 6-7)

“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.”

Isaiah 11
"And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins".

John 15
" I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

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See here. This part you posted:

"This is from Jeremiah-
(Jeremiah 23: 6-7)
“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.”'

" King shall reign and prosper " - he was not crowned king. And he was executed. Being executed is in no way "to prosper"

"shall execute judgment and justice in the earth" : Jesus was executed for sure. What Justice did he execute ?

" In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely " - Judah was pretty much destroyed by the romans within approx 40 years of his death. The Hebrews scattered. The temple destroyed. There is a current war going on just now over the establishment of a new Isreal.

"and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.”' .- He is called Jesus in the New Testament. I have never heard him called "The Lord Our Righteousness" in common parlance.

He done none of that passage from Jeremiah. Can you not see that ?

Isreal was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE. Not one line of what you posted there matches what you claim.

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 09:20

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 09:13

See here. This part you posted:

"This is from Jeremiah-
(Jeremiah 23: 6-7)
“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.”'

" King shall reign and prosper " - he was not crowned king. And he was executed. Being executed is in no way "to prosper"

"shall execute judgment and justice in the earth" : Jesus was executed for sure. What Justice did he execute ?

" In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely " - Judah was pretty much destroyed by the romans within approx 40 years of his death. The Hebrews scattered. The temple destroyed. There is a current war going on just now over the establishment of a new Isreal.

"and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.”' .- He is called Jesus in the New Testament. I have never heard him called "The Lord Our Righteousness" in common parlance.

He done none of that passage from Jeremiah. Can you not see that ?

Isreal was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE. Not one line of what you posted there matches what you claim.

No I do not agree with you at all. Jesus was the King of Jews. He came from both lines a priestly line and line of being a King. In the second judgement he will excute justice and judgement to. This is another one of Jesus' names and I explained before, he is known by many names to. The Lord the righteousness is one as well. Prophecies are contained in there and relevant for Jesus Christ. There is more but I will stop here.

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RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 10:07

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 09:20

No I do not agree with you at all. Jesus was the King of Jews. He came from both lines a priestly line and line of being a King. In the second judgement he will excute justice and judgement to. This is another one of Jesus' names and I explained before, he is known by many names to. The Lord the righteousness is one as well. Prophecies are contained in there and relevant for Jesus Christ. There is more but I will stop here.

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Quote :" He came from both lines a priestly line and line of being a King".

And full circle. Explain how this works with a virgin birth.

Remember you need to add in the immaculate conception of Mary into this explanation too, if you believe in that.

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 10:38

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 10:07

Quote :" He came from both lines a priestly line and line of being a King".

And full circle. Explain how this works with a virgin birth.

Remember you need to add in the immaculate conception of Mary into this explanation too, if you believe in that.

You yourself brought the discussion of Melchizedek to this thread yesterday. This person seems to be modelled on them but not related to them. Jesus also his father was God. He was a king and a priest.

Jesus was more than a high priest and also the King of Jews. Mary was born to be in the Immaculate Conception. I won't get into this here, you either belief it or you don't believe it.
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Hebrews 7
Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

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RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 10:38

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 10:07

Quote :" He came from both lines a priestly line and line of being a King".

And full circle. Explain how this works with a virgin birth.

Remember you need to add in the immaculate conception of Mary into this explanation too, if you believe in that.

@Justmerach

Consider this. I was a born again 20 plus years. And I now know I was lying to myself, and others, that it is all true.

Because once you see the sheer vast quantity of errors in the bible, and grasp the absurdity of the whole premise, it can't be ungrasped, unseen.

If you want to convert anyone to your faith, then you need to come up with plausible and rational explanations for all these errors and contradictions.

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 10:41

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 10:38

@Justmerach

Consider this. I was a born again 20 plus years. And I now know I was lying to myself, and others, that it is all true.

Because once you see the sheer vast quantity of errors in the bible, and grasp the absurdity of the whole premise, it can't be ungrasped, unseen.

If you want to convert anyone to your faith, then you need to come up with plausible and rational explanations for all these errors and contradictions.

I am sorry I am not here as I said before to try and convert others. This is your thoughts. That is not my role. Conversion happens down to the person wanting it and reading a variety of information and Bible scripture. It is also involves their spirit. This thread is about posting accurate scripture and explaining it to those who are willing to hear..

I am not here to answer what people have an issue with the Bible reallly not related to this post. It has gone there, but it is not the aim of this thread.

I need to move on to and I respect your decision to leave the faith.

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Justmerach · 25/02/2026 12:23

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 07:58

Your quotes in Italics.

"I asked a Jewish person in the religious section of a multiple faiths section in a thread asking any of us to ask them any questions. Everyone was respectful. I asked why they believe in the Torah but do not believe where it says that God will have a Son."

"Now, they replied basically that they couldn't make out from the scripture where it said this."

So you asked a random Jewish person, and they said no. But they were nice to you about it.

"Things like the root of Jesse it is not a common prophecy of Jesus, but it is about Jesus."

Most likely because it is nothing to do with Jesus.

You are admitting it is "not a common prophecy of Jesus", but you keep insisting it is, no matter what anyone says.

"Moving On"

Well no.

Here is a Jewish article on why Jesus is not the Jewish messiah.

Jews for Judaism | SIX REASONS WHY JEWS DON'T BELIEVE IN JESUS

Note reason #1 in this article.

"Reason #1 – The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David AND King Solomon – Jesus did not qualify.

The Messiah must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct descendant of King David & King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son (Numbers 1:1-18).

There is no evidence that Jesus really had this pedigree, and the Christian Bible actually claims that he did not have a “birth-father” from the tribe of Judah descending from King David and King Solomon (Matt. 1:18-20)."

Jesus does not even meet the most basic requirement. And the early Christians totally messed this up by insisting a virgin birth.

That is ironic really. No genealogy in the first gospel, Mark. The error was spotted, so genealogies were added in Mat and Luke... and they were both different.

And nobody spotted the obvious plot hole. The virgin birth meant no male lineage.

So you cannot use your rod of Jesse as your evidence.

Jesus is from the tribe of Judah as his mother was Jewish and was from the tribe of Judah. King Solomon was also from the tribe of Judah and King David was his father. Joseph was Jesus' legal father on earth which establishes his legal royal right to David's throne.
This Jewish website is clear that was recommend by a Rabbi himself of a synagogue. In this website they said that being Jewish is based on the mother in the Torah and why Jewishness is Matrilineal in the Torah.

(John 4 25:26)-Jesus said himself that he is the Messiah in John 4.

"The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah s cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he".

Jesus refers to himself as the root and offspring of David-
" Jesus refers to himself as 'the root and the offspring of David' (Revelation 5:16).
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/601092/jewish/Why-Is-Jewishness-Matrilineal.htm

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RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 12:45

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 12:23

Jesus is from the tribe of Judah as his mother was Jewish and was from the tribe of Judah. King Solomon was also from the tribe of Judah and King David was his father. Joseph was Jesus' legal father on earth which establishes his legal royal right to David's throne.
This Jewish website is clear that was recommend by a Rabbi himself of a synagogue. In this website they said that being Jewish is based on the mother in the Torah and why Jewishness is Matrilineal in the Torah.

(John 4 25:26)-Jesus said himself that he is the Messiah in John 4.

"The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah s cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he".

Jesus refers to himself as the root and offspring of David-
" Jesus refers to himself as 'the root and the offspring of David' (Revelation 5:16).
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/601092/jewish/Why-Is-Jewishness-Matrilineal.htm

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We have been through all this paternal or maternal lineage. It was paternal.

As for Jesus saying he is the messiah, I have heard Trump on the telly saying he is the best POTUS ever. And that's not true.

And now you have added another level that is not in the Bible. That Joseph was a "legal" father now.

Why did you not cut and paste the bit from that website you posted that confirms your claim ?

"The Code of Jewish Law clearly states that a child of a Jewish mother is Jewish, regardless of the father’s lineage (or whatever else may show up in a DNA test), while the child of a non-Jewish mother is not Jewish.about:blank 1 Matrilineal descent has been a fundamental principle of Torah since the Jewish people came into existence."

That's to be Jewish. It says nothing about name or inheritance etc. It just says to be Jewish then your mother be Jewish.

And no wonder with all the raping and pillaging going on in the Bible.

Edit to add. That website you posted says this:

"Some aspects of Judaism, like the priesthood, are clearly patrilineal (see Patrilineal Descent in Judaism, below). But the entry line into Jewishness has always been through the mother—or conversion."

Did you miss that bit ?

Because if you saw that, then decided to claim otherwise, is that not dishonest ?

See what religion does to people.

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 12:50

GarlicBound · 25/02/2026 09:03

I asked a Jewish person in the religious section ... why they believe in the Torah but do not believe where it says that God will have a Son.

@Justmerach - Are you saying that you started this thread in an effort to convince Jews that Jesus was the son of God?

I have a blog and wrote the post some while ago and had no intention posting it here as this section is known for not being friendly to Christian debate. It was not needed in the Christian section here either as they are Christians and probably most already believe this. I was compelled to write that after discussions with a Jewish person who said they couldn't determine who anybody was to redeem in their scripture. I didn't post it here though after I wrote it compelled from this and experiences as well.

Another member posted that day about Jesus not being the Son of God in another thread and seemed to refer to scripture in the Bible wrongly and not was in the Quaran. I thought about taking such a precious name and bringing it into this forum. I wanted to respond to what somebody posted that day and the thread was closed and so started another to reply to this as I thought that it needed it. If I wanted to post regardless it is fine and I don't need to explain this really.

This is based on what I been reading about people understanding wrongly about scripture mainly in two different Abrahamic faiths. This thread was intended for accurate information and a place for those three faiths to really meet if they wanted to. It was not about trying to convert others. Just about getting truths out there and people make their own minds up.
Most input has come people outside of all those three faiths and that is ok, but it was not intended to try and convert them.

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Justmerach · 25/02/2026 12:56

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 12:45

We have been through all this paternal or maternal lineage. It was paternal.

As for Jesus saying he is the messiah, I have heard Trump on the telly saying he is the best POTUS ever. And that's not true.

And now you have added another level that is not in the Bible. That Joseph was a "legal" father now.

Why did you not cut and paste the bit from that website you posted that confirms your claim ?

"The Code of Jewish Law clearly states that a child of a Jewish mother is Jewish, regardless of the father’s lineage (or whatever else may show up in a DNA test), while the child of a non-Jewish mother is not Jewish.about:blank 1 Matrilineal descent has been a fundamental principle of Torah since the Jewish people came into existence."

That's to be Jewish. It says nothing about name or inheritance etc. It just says to be Jewish then your mother be Jewish.

And no wonder with all the raping and pillaging going on in the Bible.

Edit to add. That website you posted says this:

"Some aspects of Judaism, like the priesthood, are clearly patrilineal (see Patrilineal Descent in Judaism, below). But the entry line into Jewishness has always been through the mother—or conversion."

Did you miss that bit ?

Because if you saw that, then decided to claim otherwise, is that not dishonest ?

See what religion does to people.

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Some people have the wrong information and you seem to as well. I will ask a question. It has been 2,000 plus years since and who do see fitting these descriptions that have been documented in history?` David was a mortal human being.
You have left the faith and that is your decision. I want to to say to you, calling God's and Son's of God dishonest etc is not great especially if you wish to return some day. You could make it harder yourself. You may not agree, but there is better ways of writing this all the time.

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Justmerach · 25/02/2026 13:06

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 12:45

We have been through all this paternal or maternal lineage. It was paternal.

As for Jesus saying he is the messiah, I have heard Trump on the telly saying he is the best POTUS ever. And that's not true.

And now you have added another level that is not in the Bible. That Joseph was a "legal" father now.

Why did you not cut and paste the bit from that website you posted that confirms your claim ?

"The Code of Jewish Law clearly states that a child of a Jewish mother is Jewish, regardless of the father’s lineage (or whatever else may show up in a DNA test), while the child of a non-Jewish mother is not Jewish.about:blank 1 Matrilineal descent has been a fundamental principle of Torah since the Jewish people came into existence."

That's to be Jewish. It says nothing about name or inheritance etc. It just says to be Jewish then your mother be Jewish.

And no wonder with all the raping and pillaging going on in the Bible.

Edit to add. That website you posted says this:

"Some aspects of Judaism, like the priesthood, are clearly patrilineal (see Patrilineal Descent in Judaism, below). But the entry line into Jewishness has always been through the mother—or conversion."

Did you miss that bit ?

Because if you saw that, then decided to claim otherwise, is that not dishonest ?

See what religion does to people.

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There is no argument here. Jesus was Jewish through his mother who was from the tribe of Judah and what you have posted yourself confirms this. Joseph is to his legal father on earth. There is no error here and there is no error either in what Jesus said that he is from the roots and offspring of David..Jesus had both a priestly role and one of being a King also.

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RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 13:12

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 12:56

Some people have the wrong information and you seem to as well. I will ask a question. It has been 2,000 plus years since and who do see fitting these descriptions that have been documented in history?` David was a mortal human being.
You have left the faith and that is your decision. I want to to say to you, calling God's and Son's of God dishonest etc is not great especially if you wish to return some day. You could make it harder yourself. You may not agree, but there is better ways of writing this all the time.

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You insinuated that Jesus could be descendent from his mothers side. But the site you posted was clear. "Some aspects of Judaism, like the priesthood, are clearly patrilineal"

This part here where you said "Jesus refers to himself as the root and offspring of David-
" Jesus refers to himself as 'the root and the offspring of David' (Revelation 5:16)."

I checked. I can't find a Rev 5:16. Different Bible ? Or am I just tired ?

Many posters in this thread have given clear examples of dishonesty in the Bible.

Parker231 · 25/02/2026 13:17

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 12:56

Some people have the wrong information and you seem to as well. I will ask a question. It has been 2,000 plus years since and who do see fitting these descriptions that have been documented in history?` David was a mortal human being.
You have left the faith and that is your decision. I want to to say to you, calling God's and Son's of God dishonest etc is not great especially if you wish to return some day. You could make it harder yourself. You may not agree, but there is better ways of writing this all the time.

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Sounds like a threat! Why would the poster want to return and why would it be harder for her. No one outside this thread cares what has been posted.

Parker231 · 25/02/2026 13:18

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 10:07

Quote :" He came from both lines a priestly line and line of being a King".

And full circle. Explain how this works with a virgin birth.

Remember you need to add in the immaculate conception of Mary into this explanation too, if you believe in that.

The OP can’t accept the impossibility of a virgin birth as it would collapse any credibility of the bible.

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 13:22

Parker231 · 25/02/2026 13:17

Sounds like a threat! Why would the poster want to return and why would it be harder for her. No one outside this thread cares what has been posted.

A threat? No it is common sense and may be for them may be to consider. Somebody could leave the faith and come back. Some people do and some people don't.. It is just that if they continue to insult others if you to try and return you may find it more akward and I'm not writing impossible.There are other ways of writing that you don't agree with something in a mature manner.

I thought that RedTagAlan was a male. I have no idea about them and I am not commenting on a condition. Their passion can come across in a manic style of writing with slurs like calling people dishonest often and they think it is normal and it can be difficult to read. I have not seen a thing like this online.

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RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 13:30

Parker231 · 25/02/2026 13:18

The OP can’t accept the impossibility of a virgin birth as it would collapse any credibility of the bible.

And the irony is that the virgin birth blows the whole thing apart because of the descent thing.

If the authors had picked a different prophesy, it would have been better for them.

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 13:41

From Google AI. This seems quite clear, there is ethnically Jewish and religiously Jewish.

Jesus was ethnically Jewish because he was born to a Jewish mother, Mary, in the region of Galilee and was raised within a 1st-century Jewish community. He was circumcised according to Jewish law, lived under the authority of Jewish customs, and was a descendent of the tribe of Judah.

Maternal Heritage: Jesus was born to a Jewish mother, making him ethnically Jewish according to Jewish law.

Jesus was religiously Jewish by being born to a Jewish mother, circumcised according to Jewish law, and raising within a Jewish home. Throughout his life, he observed Torah, worshipped in synagogues, and celebrated Jewish holidays like Passover, the Feast of Tabernacles, and Hanukkah. He operated as a Jewish teacher/rabbi and focused his ministry on the "lost sheep of Israel"

Observance of Law: Jesus lived under the Mosaic Covenant, observed commandments, and affirmed the authority of the Law and the Prophets.

Tribal Lineage: Jesus was born into the tribe of Judah.
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Joseph was necessary as Jesus’s legal father to establish a legitimate, legal right to the throne of King David, fulfilling messianic prophecy. While Jesus was virgin-born, Jewish law and cultural, patriarchal lineage required a father from the royal line of David and Solomon for recognition as the heir.

Fulfilling Prophecy: Prophecy demanded the Messiah be a descendant of David (2 Samuel 7:12–16). Joseph's genealogy (found in Matthew 1) connects Jesus directly to this line.

By taking Mary as his wife and adopting Jesus, Joseph ensured that Jesus was rightfully recognized as the legal King of the Jews.

God being Jesus' Farther to, gave him a priestly role.

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RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 13:47

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 13:22

A threat? No it is common sense and may be for them may be to consider. Somebody could leave the faith and come back. Some people do and some people don't.. It is just that if they continue to insult others if you to try and return you may find it more akward and I'm not writing impossible.There are other ways of writing that you don't agree with something in a mature manner.

I thought that RedTagAlan was a male. I have no idea about them and I am not commenting on a condition. Their passion can come across in a manic style of writing with slurs like calling people dishonest often and they think it is normal and it can be difficult to read. I have not seen a thing like this online.

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Quote "I thought that RedTagAlan was a male. I have no idea about them and I am not commenting on a condition."

I am pretty sure being male is not a "condition"

I explained in a post way up that to be a Christian, and to think about it. means having to be dishonest with oneself. And how that spills over.

1Ti 2:11-15 " Let a woman learn in quietness in all subjection, and I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to rule a husband, but to be in quietness,for Adam was formed first, then Eve, and Adam was not deceived, but the woman, having been deceived, came into transgression, and she will be saved through the childbearing, if they remain in faith, and love, and sanctification, with sobriety." (LSV)

Any thoughts on that verse ? There are a few more like that.

So if a woman teaches about the Bible, that is surely a sin, according to the Bible ?

Parker231 · 25/02/2026 13:49

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 13:41

From Google AI. This seems quite clear, there is ethnically Jewish and religiously Jewish.

Jesus was ethnically Jewish because he was born to a Jewish mother, Mary, in the region of Galilee and was raised within a 1st-century Jewish community. He was circumcised according to Jewish law, lived under the authority of Jewish customs, and was a descendent of the tribe of Judah.

Maternal Heritage: Jesus was born to a Jewish mother, making him ethnically Jewish according to Jewish law.

Jesus was religiously Jewish by being born to a Jewish mother, circumcised according to Jewish law, and raising within a Jewish home. Throughout his life, he observed Torah, worshipped in synagogues, and celebrated Jewish holidays like Passover, the Feast of Tabernacles, and Hanukkah. He operated as a Jewish teacher/rabbi and focused his ministry on the "lost sheep of Israel"

Observance of Law: Jesus lived under the Mosaic Covenant, observed commandments, and affirmed the authority of the Law and the Prophets.

Tribal Lineage: Jesus was born into the tribe of Judah.
....
Joseph was necessary as Jesus’s legal father to establish a legitimate, legal right to the throne of King David, fulfilling messianic prophecy. While Jesus was virgin-born, Jewish law and cultural, patriarchal lineage required a father from the royal line of David and Solomon for recognition as the heir.

Fulfilling Prophecy: Prophecy demanded the Messiah be a descendant of David (2 Samuel 7:12–16). Joseph's genealogy (found in Matthew 1) connects Jesus directly to this line.

By taking Mary as his wife and adopting Jesus, Joseph ensured that Jesus was rightfully recognized as the legal King of the Jews.

God being Jesus' Farther to, gave him a priestly role.

Jesus wasn’t adopted. Joseph was his father. At least that’s what the tour guide said when we visited Bethlehem!

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 13:57

RedTagAlan · 25/02/2026 13:47

Quote "I thought that RedTagAlan was a male. I have no idea about them and I am not commenting on a condition."

I am pretty sure being male is not a "condition"

I explained in a post way up that to be a Christian, and to think about it. means having to be dishonest with oneself. And how that spills over.

1Ti 2:11-15 " Let a woman learn in quietness in all subjection, and I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to rule a husband, but to be in quietness,for Adam was formed first, then Eve, and Adam was not deceived, but the woman, having been deceived, came into transgression, and she will be saved through the childbearing, if they remain in faith, and love, and sanctification, with sobriety." (LSV)

Any thoughts on that verse ? There are a few more like that.

So if a woman teaches about the Bible, that is surely a sin, according to the Bible ?

I may return later onto your question outside of the topic of the thread.
I meant by stating a condition that I was not referring about one. I wrote that your style of writing can be a bit manic to read at times and I was not commenting on any condition.
A poster referred to you a she and I thought you were a male so I mentioned it. Perhaps you are not though and that is not in question in this thread.

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Justmerach · 25/02/2026 14:01

Parker231 · 25/02/2026 13:49

Jesus wasn’t adopted. Joseph was his father. At least that’s what the tour guide said when we visited Bethlehem!

Joseph became Jesus' legal father by marrying Jesus' mother Mary.

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Parker231 · 25/02/2026 14:04

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 14:01

Joseph became Jesus' legal father by marrying Jesus' mother Mary.

Mary and Joseph were married before Jesus was born.

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 14:16

Parker231 · 25/02/2026 14:04

Mary and Joseph were married before Jesus was born.

The fact that Joseph though married Mary made Joseph Jesus' legal father and this is the point. It seems couple engagements could take one year until they marry. There is question about when in this year did they marry though.
(Matthew 1 18-20)
" Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost"

"Now, this is quite important to note as we move through the gospel reading. He was engaged to Mary to be married to her. And in Jewish customs, engagements were usually typically lasting a year due to the preparations that the groom would needed to put in place with his family before the bride came to live with them. It was legally binding. Diaries would have been exchanged at that point. The intent to marry a formal document would have been read out in what was the town square between the families and in front of the town full of witnesses"-from a minsiter .

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Parker231 · 25/02/2026 14:28

Justmerach · 25/02/2026 14:16

The fact that Joseph though married Mary made Joseph Jesus' legal father and this is the point. It seems couple engagements could take one year until they marry. There is question about when in this year did they marry though.
(Matthew 1 18-20)
" Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost"

"Now, this is quite important to note as we move through the gospel reading. He was engaged to Mary to be married to her. And in Jewish customs, engagements were usually typically lasting a year due to the preparations that the groom would needed to put in place with his family before the bride came to live with them. It was legally binding. Diaries would have been exchanged at that point. The intent to marry a formal document would have been read out in what was the town square between the families and in front of the town full of witnesses"-from a minsiter .

You seem confused - Mary and Joseph were Jesus’s parents in the same way that DH and I are of our DT’s.

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