Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

So you don't need the word "truth" in it. If it is a made up story, then it is made up. You can't call it a "true made up story" to change it from being made up.

You are doing doublespeak. And doublespeak is dishonest.

I think it's possibly more dishonest than the DPRK being called the Democratic Republic of Korea. Because it's not democratic in the common sense of course, but it does have elections.... with one candidate :-)

I am surprised that you have never heard of a moral truth in your life. Something to read a story and take a moral lesson from it. It is that simpe.

This thread is not about peoples personal faith and what they choose to do with it. that is up to them. The discussion of peoples faith has come up though. This thread is about theology mainly, but people seem to think they are being spoken as to apply this to them to when they are not.

You said reputedly "symbolic truths."

You did not say " moral truth ".

Dishonest ? Or a genuine mistake ?

They can both apply to the parables that Jesus spoke. So it was not me who was at fault.

No.

Look it up -

Moral Truth -- The Correspondence Theory of Truth
A statement is true when it corresponds with reality. In other words, a statement is true if it matches up with the way the world really is. This is the common definition of truth that we all know. It is only when we come to moral truth that people change the definition.

Source

Moral Truth (allaboutphilosophy.org)

So moral truth is that which matches with reality. That is, it's true. As against subjective truth, that is .... subjective.

The article goes on to say :

Moral Truth – Moral Relativism vs. Moral Absolutism

Moral Relativism is the view that moral truths depend on the individual or group who hold them. There are no moral absolutes, no objective ethical right and wrong. Morals are subjective, like ice cream preferences.

Moral absolutism holds that a moral rule is true regardless of whether anyone believes it, just like insulin controls diabetes whether anyone knows it or not. Morals can’t be created by personal conviction; nor do they disappear when an individual or culture rejects them. Ethical rules are objective and universally binding in all similar cases.

So it appears you are talking about Moral Relativism.

And we get this :

Moral relativism cheapens human life. When morality is reduced to personal tastes, people exchange the question, “What is good?” for the pleasure question, “What feels good?” Rather than basing decisions on “what is right,” decisions are based on self-interest. When self-interest rules, it has a profound impact on behavior, especially how we treat other human beings. The notion of human dignity depends on there being objective moral truths. Instead, we can discard people when they become troublesome or expensive.

So you are choosing to apply Moral Relativism to the Bible stories, because it is something you like. But philosophically, Moral relativism cheapens human life.

So it appears you are being dishonest, because you are using the wrong terms to justify what you LIKE, and to pass it off as the moral truth, when it is not.

Does that make sense ?

No AI there, I just looked it up.

I think most people will know what is a symbolic story with a moral truth in reference to Bible stories and the parables. This is what I wrote, and is correct for this.
"A symbolic truth is something that has a moral truth to the story, like Jesus' parables.Jesus often stated when he was speaking in parables".

Btw, there are some free courses out there about learning to critique the Bible within academic standards rather than labelling everything as errors etc when it is not.
https://massolit.io/courses/interpreting-the-new-testament-biblical-criticism

Why on earth wasn’t the Bible written so it could be clearly understood? Or perhaps the mixed messages were because those who did the writing weren’t eye witnesses and didn’t actually know what happened so some poetic license was involved.

@Justmerach

The post above is relative to what I have said time and time in this thread. That to unconditionally believe the bible, one has to be dishonest.

I think you are demonstrating that here.

And I personally think the worst part is, one has to be dishonest to oneself. That is, one has to force oneself not to believe the truth of science, in order to believe what is a science illiterate iron age book.

Here you are trying to gaslight me over what words and terms mean. That matters nowt to me, but what does bother me a bit is that you are doing it to yourself.

2026 knowledge that god doesn’t exist

The existence of intense, unnecessary, or unjustified suffering (such as the Holocaust or natural disasters) is evidence against the existence of an all-powerful, all-knowing, and supposedly benevolent god.

Many events once attributed to divine intervention now have scientific explanations through fields like physics and biology, reducing the need for a supernatural creator.

Arguments often point out that definitions of god may be contradictory or violate known laws of nature.

Similar to a hypothetical, undetectable teapot orbiting the sun, the burden of proof lies on those claiming an entity exists, not on those who doubt it.

A symbolic truth and a moral story can apply to things of a spiritual nature which can be accurate. I didn't write anything wrong.

Also, many posts you posted that the Bible is inaccurate, dishonest, errors etc which like it a statement when actually academic thought doesn't seem to support all of this. What you have posted is your opinion which you are entitled to have.

Same with you,it’s only your opinion - not necessarily factual or correct. Just one person’s opinion.

According to the Bible, this all-powerful, all-knowing, and supposedly benevolent god promotes, enables and inflicts intense suffering such as the Holocaust and natural disasters. It would make more sense to present terrible events and awful people as evidence for the existence of god.

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The Orbital Teapot does exist! How very dare you question the validity of this patently real, scientifically undetectable object and its universal significance?!

There is two different things going on.

One is what is written in the scripture which is here theology and apologetics. This at heart means what does the Bible write about Jesus Christ being the Son of God and not whether if you believe him to be or not.

Then there was discussion about the Holy Spirit comforter which he gives his believers. You should be able to look in the Bible and see what it says and then try and explain what it says if it needs to.

Then it can about peoples faith and that is different and not the aim of the thread, but it got discussed naturally.

Some people have had their faith confirmed -this is not though about trying to convince you of the faith. At the crux of religion is faith. I am not a minister but they can differ in their styles and they have all got their usefulness. Some will state there is no doubt and some may be more reserved.

I repeat - your statements are your opinion and not fact or necessarily true.

the Holy Spirit comforter which he gives his believers. You should be able to look in the Bible and see what it says and then try and explain what it says if it needs to

@Justmerach, please can you explain what you meant here? Who should be able to look in the bible, and what are they looking for? Who should be trying to explain it?

Today for example I referred to a post written by a forum member in another thread where they wrote that Paul had a vision about food to eat. This comes form the Bible and was inaccurate, I can post what is in the scripture to reply. It was Peter who had this vision and there is no disagreement here.

For more examples some people say Jesus never called himself the Son of God in the Christian gospels. Therefore, you can post where he did clearly which call himself the Son of God or the Messiah. This comes up this question where did Jesus call himself the Son of God in scripture. This is responding to those sort of questions. I have seen them quite a lot on search.

Some people want to know how does Jesus support Christians today.. He said he gives his believers the Holy Spirit in John 14 and just reference it. This supports that Christ is with us.

The aim though was to discuss what does scripture really say about Jesus being the Son of God in a discussion of scripture and different things may come from this.

Through 39 pages on this thread, my summary - no proof has been provided to the original question. Lives of believers are no better or worse than atheists. Nothing will change that.

This was about biblical truth, what does the Bible say about Jesus being the Son of God. That has been answered by using scripture. I don't know what other proof you wanted. Then there was another argument that the Holy Spirit shows how Jesus supports people today. If interested that is for you to explore yourself if you wanted to. Healing stories has been posted here and some from the church to Eucharistic miracles. My story on my nervous condition was true how I got healing for this through the Holy Spirit..

There is theTurin Shroud but this is not confirmed. It is the Holy Spirit that helps people to confirm their faith. Some people just have great belief as well without this.

I learnt about the sensory research GarlicSound posted and have bookmarked it. You saw that auto rescurrection can happen for some people. I cleaned up a few things and posted again which is good.

The thread is approaching the end now.

Moving On-
In this scripture at his trial Jesus said that he was Christ.

(Mark 14 61-62)-Jesus confirmed that at his trial that he was Christ.

" But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven".

(Luke 10 :22-25) This is about the world of the Holy Spirit and how they can show you things of the invisible world. They are written about in John 14.

" And he turned him unto his disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

You haven’t proven Jesus was the son of god - there have been numerous posts pulling holes in your arguments.

If you open the scripture and see it there it is not my argument, but is in the scripture in black and white, say what you see.
Is it being used correctly though the scripture, yes they are supported and I have not made something random here .They are in the scripture. Perhaps don't think don't think that people are trying to convince others of the existene of Jesus, but what does the scripture say and is it being used properly. The scripture is fine.

This is not about whether you believe this or not, but is what is written primarily. If you want to argue about errors it needs to be framed in an academic way or else it is your opinion.

I will post this again.
From the Old Testament-

(2 Samuel 7 12-13)
"I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son"

This Psalm was originally a coronation psalm for David, but is considered a messianic prophecy fully realised in Jesus.
(Psalm 2:7) Good News Translation

‘You are my son; today I have become your father.”

KJV version

“Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”

(Psalm 80:17) Another one of Jesus’ names is the Son of Man.

“ Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand, upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself.

(Isaiah 9:6)
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

(Isaiah 11:1-4)
This is a prophecy of Jesus Christ.

"And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots, And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins "

(Isaiah 53 3-9)

“ He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.”

(Jeremiah 23: 6-7)

“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.”

(Hosea 3 :4-5)
The Lord is Jesus Christ. This is a prophecy fulfiled through Jesus.

"For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days".

The New Testament

(Matthew 3 16:17)-This is said from God the Father
"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased"

(Matthew 17:5)- This is said from God the Father
"While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him"

(Matthew 16 13-19)
This is Said by Jesus Christ confirming he is the Son of God again.
“When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven".He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well"

(Mark 14 61-62)-Jesus confirmed that at his trial that he was Christ..

" But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven".

(Luke 8:28) Demons surrender to Jesus Christ's authority again giving confirmation that he is of God..

"When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not."

(Luke 22:70)
This is said by Jesus Christ confirming that he is the Son of God
"Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am".

(John 3:16) - This is said by Jesus Christ to Nicodemus. Jesus said he is the Only Begotten Son.
" For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.".

(John 4 25:26)-Jesus said himself that he is the Messiah in John 4.
"The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah s cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he".

(John 14: 8-13)

“ Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.”

(John 15: 1-2)-Jesus is the vine and Christians are his branches.
" I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit."

(Revelation 2: 18)

“These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass.”

The Birth of Christ-

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus....and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David."

This was also written about the birth of Jesus in (Matthew 1:23) " Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

The coming of the birth of Jesus conceived by a virgin was also prophesied in the book of (Isaiah 7), "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" and the prophecy in (Matthew 1:23) was fulfilled.

The Holy Spirit is sent to Christians by Jesus Christ after he departed us and this is how he works with us today. Jesus also appoints the serving roles in the church and therefore believers gifts of the Holy Spirit.

(John 14:28)

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost (Spirit), whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you".

I don’t get all this endless copy and paste - if I’d ever wanted to read the bible, I’d buy one. The principle is that just because it’s written in some scripture, it’s not necessarily true, correct or accurate. I don’t think you have read anyone’s responses. You believe it’s true - surely that’s all that matters to you? You haven’t convinced me of anything.

@Justmerach as I posted earlier, a believers life is no better or worse than an atheist and that will never change.

I have not been trying to convince you of anything. I said why I posted to post accurate information in the scripture. You just wrote to me the argument was wrong, it was not. So I posted the scripture again. The scripture was fine if you research enough you may form the same conclusion. You asked a few questions and led this yourself. It was you who asked about the end times etc. This is to reply to last post. I wasn't putting anything really forward other than the first post.

I had a faith and was sent the Holy Spirit in John 14 and then the gifts of the Holy Spirit. It has made my life better and is the promised comforter. You cannot say that someone's life will not be better as mine is. I am not here to discuss this with you though in more depth as you can look into this more if your interested and it is by faith, and this can be part of it. If you want to know more a minister in a church may be one to talk to about it.

Again you have no proof that life as a believer is better than an atheist - you just have your assumptions in the same way as you believe in the scriptures regardless that others have posted the inaccuracies and untruths.
You have no evidence that my life would change for the better if I believed as you do.
I wasn’t looked to be converted - far from it.