Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Philosophy/religion

Join our Philosophy forum to discuss religion and spirituality.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

Do you believe in guardian angels?

366 replies

beakerandburette · 14/05/2014 21:50

I have an 2mo DD and recently I have been finding white feathers in her cot, pram, Moses basket ect. I mentioned it to my mum and she suggested it could be an angel, I'm a little sceptical but I must admit it is a little bit strange.

So do you believe and have you had any experience of this?

OP posts:
lottieandmias · 05/06/2014 18:14

When you're talking about 'actual' though it's never a clear cut thing.

For example - do we all see colours the same way? There is no way to prove that we do. We all agree that x= red but the way any of us see red cannot be proven to be the same.

IndigoBarbie · 05/06/2014 21:34

CoteDAzur Thu 05-Jun-14 09:03:37
What Indigo doesn't have a right to is to claim that it is all real.
Actually Cote, I do. It is real for me, I never said anything about anyone else.
The thing is though Cote, ALL energy is real and NOT supernatural. The universe is all energy, everything that exists is.

Hakluyt Thu 05-Jun-14 11:52:25
But the energy fields Indigo claims to harness are not real!
Hak - Which energy fields and where do I claim to harness unreal energies? Huh?

We are each accessing different vibrations therefore the real is not just one 'THE REAL REALITY' as we view our lives through lenses of what has shaped us. Remember the whole observer changes the outcome in the quantum field slit experiment, well, in a way our real life perceptions are quite like that. For example: I say I see Angels and feel their vibrations - and you call me a liar, because you can't perceive the same. Your dreams are in colour, and mine are non-existent - doesn't mean I call you a liar because you access your consciousness in sleep state.

Can you think of moments where you felt like time speeded up, and your day went by very fast, but for someone else it was the longest day ever? I am trying to give you real life examples to relate to, since I have never ever said that any of this 'stuff' was supernatural - It's not, it IS natural, it's just too many of us are not exploring our own intuitive sides, we spend days in front of TV's, stress ourselves out with life and work and families in general, and drink wine to unwind and block it all out. That's what I mean.

Completely not getting at anyone. Just so interested to see how my posts can be taken out of context and other people are saying I said things that I didn't.

Since I was little I could sense energies, peoples moods etc Now I have trained and learned myself over many years, I can utilise my skills to assist others. I don't have supernatural gifts, I've just tried to embrace them instead of stuff them down with drugs, alcohol etc. Turns out that has been a good thing, and for those who come to see me for energy healing work - they feel helped. I can assist them because I am seeing into their energy fields to see which particular event in life/emotion etc etc etc is giving them issue on the physical. I can clear negative energies from their fields and this can allow them a healing space to heal themselves. I can not or never will accept responsibility for 'healing' anyone - energy healer is a label. Each person holds the responsibility for their own body, and their own healing - whether they believe that or not. Our body is the only thing we came into this world with, therefore we own it and need to look after it.

In the past on mn their have been some missing people and children, therefore I put my skills to good use to assist in locating them. I have honed my craft over the years just like many of you have done for your 'REAL' jobs.

I deserve no less respect than anyone else on here. Please - I am not interested in battles online whereby I keep having to waste my energy by explaining over and over and over again. This is my REAL life, it has taken me years to try and integrate this into what is perceived as 'normal' and not feel outcast for sensing things differently to others.

CoteDAzur · 05/06/2014 21:47

What is the energy you think you use to heal people, Indigo?

It's not heat.

It's not electricity.

It's not nuclear (I hope).

What is it?

Hakluyt · 05/06/2014 22:09

"In the past on mn their have been some missing people and children, therefore I put my skills to good use to assist in locating them."

Could you say some more about this?

headinhands · 06/06/2014 06:26

accessing different vibrations

Evidence please.

headinhands · 06/06/2014 06:28

you felt like time speeded up

Yeah, when I'm busy. Please don't tell me you posted that with a straight face.

headinhands · 06/06/2014 06:32

block it all put

Seriously? Whereas third world countries that don't have the stresses of TV and wine are all super happy, healthy and thriving?

CoteDAzur · 06/06/2014 08:56

"We are each accessing different vibrations therefore the real is not just one"

I don't "access" any vibrations.

"Remember the whole observer changes the outcome in the quantum field slit experiment"

Ooh, I was hoping you would start talking about Quantum Physics Grin

(1) Observer doesn't change the outcome in the 'slit experiment' [sic]
(2) You mean double-slit experiment
(3) You don't test "quantum field" but individual particles. Electrons, in the case of the double-slit experiments.

Smile
lottieandmias · 06/06/2014 09:14

Does anyone use the Doreen Virtue cards? How do they work? Just wondered as my daughter has asked about them.

Hakluyt · 06/06/2014 10:16

I'm happy to talk about Doreen Virtue and her cards, but I'm assuming you only want positive comments?

Softlysoftlycatchymonkey · 06/06/2014 10:49

Such nastiness on this thread. I really do wonder why posters feel the need to fight it out.

CalamityKate1 · 06/06/2014 10:51

I love you Cote Grin

Idontseeanyicegiants · 06/06/2014 11:03

Ok, I've been directed here from your other thread in site stuff and much of this is sitting badly with me. You do know that offering services of this kind especially in exchange for money is not thought of kindly in most circles don't you? I've been Pagan for many years and have mostly avoided getting into the ins and outs of this but you are using a gift to get the hopes up of people at dreadful times in their lives! The rule of thumb in Wicca States 'as it harms none, do as you will'.
Emphasis on 'As It Harms None'
How does scrying (or similar I assume) for a missing child when the parents are at their most desperate and vulnerable harm nobody?
Sorry but you are not helping anybody and on a purely selfish level giving the rest of us a bad name .

IndigoBarbie · 06/06/2014 11:38

Actually cannot believe the amount of speculation and sentences misconstrued.
do you even know what I am speaking about? Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Guys, you win. I've had enough.

IndigoBarbie · 06/06/2014 11:41

Wow. Money changing hands for what someone said is selfish and scrying? I do no such thing.
Forget it peops. If you ever needed help with anything I've spoken of on here you can contact me in other ways.

CoteDAzur · 06/06/2014 11:47

I didn't misconstrue your sentence on Quantum Physics. I quoted it. Sorry, Indigo - it was broken when I found it Grin

Are you now running away? I thought we would have a nice informative conversation about Quantum Physics. I'd like to hear all about this slit experiment of the Quantum field where observer changes the outcome Smile

Hakluyt · 06/06/2014 11:51

Indigo- you said ""In the past on mn their have been some missing people and children, therefore I put my skills to good use to assist in locating them"

Please could you say some more about that?

IndigoBarbie · 06/06/2014 11:51

Idontseeanyicegiants

I have no idea where you have come up with the opinion that you have. Could you please explain what you are speaking of? What circles? What I am doing that doesn't sit right?

"How does scrying (or similar I assume) for a missing child when the parents are at their most desperate and vulnerable harm nobody?
Sorry but you are not helping anybody and on a purely selfish level giving the rest of us a bad name"

And how exactly have you come to this conclusion? Why would you presume I follow your pagan beliefs about harm nobody? Why would you judge me based on your beliefs. (even though I never harm anyone)

You know nothing of what I do.

How is assisting to find missing people selfish? I can see things that most people cannot, therefore using my natural skills is helpful, and saves time and effort and money by other services. Something I have never been paid for, do not contact the parents. If it takes hours of my life to do this then I am giving of myself freely - and my energy levels. I am literally shocked that you would judge me like that.

IndigoBarbie · 06/06/2014 11:53

Hak - yeah of course, there will be some mn'ers who will know what I speak of. Not outing the details online I'm afraid.

Cote, not running away. Pointless to continue in this manner. Can you get me a scientific trial going and we can investigate my work together?

CoteDAzur · 06/06/2014 12:17

You are running away.

You made a nonsense statement about Quantum Physics. I showed that you managed to make three mistakes in one sentence. Now you are legging it.

Idontseeanyicegiants · 06/06/2014 12:32

First things first I did not accuse you of taking money to find lost children. I merely stated that giving false hope to desperate people is wrong.
Second I didn't assume you are Pagan, I said I am. The rede is a rule I follow and it's a bloody good one. This is why I said it doesn't sit right with ME.
Third a healing gift is just that. A gift. Received and given freely with no money changing hands. If you have a genuine gift IN MY OPINION (apologies, on app and I can't bold, so am not actually shouting) it should he given generously and for free.
My whole post was how it feels to me personally, and yes, because believers in what is termed 'woo' tend to be lumped in together then yes it does give the rest of us a bloody bad name!

Hakluyt · 06/06/2014 13:05

So, can we get this absolutely straight, Indigo. You are saying that you have found missing children through your "gift"?

Hakluyt · 06/06/2014 13:06

" Can you get me a scientific trial going and we can investigate my work together?"

I would be happy to. PM me your name and address and I'll get it set up.

lottieandmias · 06/06/2014 13:14

Idont - I am not sure about people charging but surely everyone uses the gifts that they have to earn a living? I don't necessarily see it as wrong when someone is giving up hours of their time to charge for their time, much like a psychotherapist as I said before.

That's not to say that there are no charlatans are out there but I wouldn't always assume that people who do charge are unethical.

BoreOfWhabylon · 06/06/2014 15:47

Idontseeanyicegiants

Huge respect to you for your posts here and on the other thread Flowers

Swipe left for the next trending thread