Do you believe in guardian angels?

[beakerandburette]

I have an 2mo DD and recently I have been finding white feathers in her cot, pram, Moses basket ect. I mentioned it to my mum and she suggested it could be an angel, I'm a little sceptical but I must admit it is a little bit strange.

So do you believe and have you had any experience of this?

Bored it's been a pleasure.

I'm hiding both threads and getting back to the rest if the boards though, these 2 are making me irrationally irritable!!

I can see thing that most people cannot

If that's true get that $1000000 from The Randi Institute and donate it to my local kids hospice. They need a new wing.

Such nastiness on this thread. I really do wonder why posters feel the need to fight it out.

So people pushing for evidence and proof is nastiness?

Preying on vulnerable people, taking money from people for services that have amazing claims, yet have not one shred of scientific evidence supporting these claims. I think that warrants a strong challenge.

If these energy healers / angels / faith healers etc, were even a tiny bit effective, surely it would be in their interest to prove that they could do what they claim to do? What are they not queuing up to prove their effectiveness.
If I could heal people by holding my hands over them and directing the energy, I would be straight on the phone to James Randi, telling him to set up a trial. I would go out of my way to prove that I wasn't a con-artist.
Why have none had the confidence in the own abilities, to prove it? Because they know they will fail.

Yawn

I have to say that I am -disconcerted, to say the least- that all the "pro-woo" (inverted commas because I absolutely hate the word woo) people are studiously ignoring indigo's outrageous comments about finding mumsnetter's missing children. Is nobody prepared to comment?

Yes me!

Read my earlier posts.

Some people on this thread should be ashamed. It should be possible for grown adults to have a discussion and, even, disagree without the sort of vicious sniping seen here. Shame on you.

Grown adults should expect to be asked for evidence if they claim to have superpowers.

If I walked into work on Monday and told my colleagues I could fly would they just agree to disagree? What if I said they had to pay me before I would let them see me fly?

"Yes me!

Read my earlier posts."

I've searched back,softlysoftly but I can't find any comments- have I missed them?

Softly did retract her support for IB, but it's on the other thread.

Nobody claimed to have superpowers - that's your spin on it.

So seeing things that other people can't see, being an energy healer and finding lost children from a distance aren't "superpowers"?

Seeing things that other people can't see - no not a superpower. The energy healers I know don't claim to have super powers.

The stuff about finding missing children relates to one poster doesn't it?

But nobody on MN should link to their website, whoever it is IMO.

"Seeing things that other people can't see - no not a superpower. The energy healers I know don't claim to have super powers.

The stuff about finding missing children relates to one poster doesn't it?"

Surely being able to harness energy that other people can't and which according to conventional science doesn't exist is a super power? And seeing things that other people can't see? What constitutes a superpower for you?

And yes, the missing children thing does apply to one poster- but you don't have to go far to find many other people who say similar things. And she was largely unchallenged by the "woo" supporters on this thread (inverted commas because I hate the word, but don't want to type "believers in the paranormal/supernatural" every time. BIPS maybe?)

So the only people who should contribute to a thread with a title like "do you belive in guardian angels?" are people who say "yes"?

And I would normally agree with you about following people from thread to thread, but in this case the poster concerned is a very well known and "authoritative" contributer who has on this occasion said things which should not have been left unchallenged. And who, once challenged has slunk off.

People are rude and obnoxious on religion threads as well though.

Eg 'Do you think prayer helps?'

Various answers that go like 'No of course I don't because I'm an adult - grow up!'

I doubt many sane people walk into churches and shout 'you're all idiots'. What would be the point? It's easier to poke fun at people from behind a screen though isn't it?

This is not just about energy healers who frequent this forum or any other. I am not an energy healer. I do not see things outside of normal range, generally. However, I have been subjected to rudeness and nastiness before on these threads.

Oh and I should say - the rudeness is always the same people. And usually I don't even remember usernames.

Exactly Sunshine. I very much doubt that people are so rude in RL to anyone.

Some posters on MN are open about not respecting religions so MNHQ has a problem on its hands as basic netiquette about respect cannot apply unless a strong line is taken and I suspect that there is a policy decision by MNHQ not to take that line.

There is no proof of supernatural beings, winged or otherwise so no. I don't believe.

The problem is though, green - it's ok to not accept religions or spirituality but on this board it always crosses over to personal, eg

'Why do you think..... Although I don't know what kind of response I could hope to get from someone who....'

Another one is

'I think you are lying'

Not acceptable - it implies the poster is basically a troll and that they are posting with malicious intent. That really makes me angry.

Whereas they could have said 'I think you must have imagined it'