Constipation/witholding

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hi all my daughter is 3.5 been a extremely picky eater and drinker forever always had hard poos was given lactouloose for brief period last year.
last week end was awfull she was in.agony doctors gave her laxative again 3 days later up the dose next day did pass very soft and diarrhea after a A&E visit gave her steriod cream as she was red raw and was hysterical when i went anywhere near her.. Wednesday was better were mow on.sunday no poo and for the last 4 days have noticed she clenches her bum checks and crosses her feet so.the doctor has reluctantly refered for constipation pedestrics she literally screams.when she holds and then just ruunny slimmy in.her nappy she isnt potty trained this has all.steamed.from.last weekend so now 111 have given me.movicol but is there a hard poo to.come or is she holding anything she is angry upset laying around if i go out she stops and screams and clenches im emotionally drained does this sound right ive tried saying it womt hurt if u poo watched videos books i dont know to.do thank you for any help

If she is withholding poo then she definitely needs Movicol to soften it. Try joining the Facebook group Movicol Mummies and look at the ERIC website. Will have loads of advice, GPs are generally useless with this problem as it’s not widely understood. Hope your little girl is more comfortable soon.

thannk you my issue is shes been having laxido for a week.to change from.lactoloose and now its little bits off diarrhea presuming everytime she witholds it comes out and.she is now red.raw again just had a bath reluctantly and got cream there and can see runny poo coming out sorry tmi im.just lost has she had too much laxitive or not enough

The diarrhea is overflow seeping around the blockage it's going to take long term stool softeners

Is it a psychological thing ? My DS was like this. I used to sit him on the toilet and sit in front of him and read him a book so that he would relax enough to have a poo. It took a while but worked in the end

thank you yes she went and presumably emptied on tuesday but ever since trying to hold it and in pain when does this so guess my question is will the formed stool disolve ive tryed everything to reassure her ive been given movicol to start tomorrow what are peoples options on this laxative please

No it won't dissolve the hard poo.
Movicol is very good.

thank.you will start with that in the morning in anyone's experience will.this just force her poo as she is litterly clamping her legs and bum closed

You need a 3 day regimen of clearing the blockage with a laxative, then a 7 day regimen of loosening the remaining poop with high dose Movicol to get it all out. Afterwards a maintenance program of Movicol to keep it in check.

My daughter had this and still does if not watched. It's unbelievable how the diarrhea was just poop seeping around a blockage and so I didn't recognize she had chronic constipation, the blockage was so big it changed her colon and her poops were absolutely ginormous.

Talk to your doctor about this and get a prescription. It's serious and needs attention.

Join this group on Facebook - Encopresis Support Worldwide

Good luck 👍🍀

Also get a step stool for their feet so when they are sitting on the toilet their knees are higher than their bum

Movicol and laxido are the same thing different brands

yes shes always had big stools shes been on.max dose laxiido simce Tuesday and lacrosse 5 days before that and since presumably emptying on Tuesday were.here.still shes now in.bed standing up.to withhold every half an hour

this is what i thought i.just give up with gps

My ds 4.5 was recently prescribed movicol. He was perfectly potty trained for about 8 months and then suddenly started withholding poop. He possibly has arfid so has a high milk-based diet so hasn't been hugely successful in holding for more than a few days, luckily for us I guess. It's been about 3 weeks on the movicol now and he's no longer holding on and going in his pants, which is great for us all. We'll continue the movicol (1 sachet a day) for a while yet given his poor diet, but I don't know how long for yet, not gotten that far with my plans!

We also tried the reading/tablet on the toilet, blowing bubbles and windmills. Apparently makes it harder to hold on.

i hope.he feels his best soon its so horrid.to watch my daughter isnt potty trained yet ive tryed leavung her pants of as she will wee.in potty and sit on.it but she becomes hysterical for her pants but then witholds i try to explain and comfort but she becomes so.angry and tells me to.go away

Sit her n the potty with a nappy on and do the windmill bubble blowing as suggested above.
is she on the disimpaction regime of movicol/laxido?

shes on 4 pouches.aday ive just looked.at movicol and laxido and can.see.there excatlu the same.so why the 111 doctor.has sent.that i dont.know!. seems as soom as.urge comes she holds on to.somethimg and stretches up and crys out then says better now its gone down! thays been for last 4 days

My 3 year old is exactly the same, crosses her legs, gets angry etc. She’s been on movicol since she was 11 months old and as long as I give her a maintenance dose, she’s fine. I’ve tried weaning her off it a few times but it always comes back with a vengeance so have to give a higher dose to clear her out then back to maintenance dose (1 sachet a day does her).

thank you.for your reply when she clears out is it solid and does she stop.withholding i cam see her asleep in bed withholding while shes asleep its breaking my heart

thank you.for all.your replys back to.doctors today told to up to 6 sachets whicj im.not shes had runny poo allday coming out bum so sore.can hardly walk light relief in bath but covered soon as put pants bavk on now the nappy rash is bleeding and looks awful ive only give her one sachet today the gp said no way to tell if a hard stool waiting or not this is a nightmare

Hi my little grandson has had a problem with constipation he is also potentially on the autistic spectrum awaiting diagnosis.
You must must must have the movicol/laxido. It needs to be given until the child is literally pooing clear water. This will ensure any blockage has gone.
If your little one is getting sore use a good barrier cream even sudocrem. Metanium is very good as a treatment also. Your GP may prescribe it for you.
The Poo Ladies are excellent you can look them up. They will explain everything step by step.
Hope your little one improves soon. I understand how distressing it is.

Hi OP, had the same issue with my DD. Would the GP prescribe a glycerin suppository?

We had to ask our GP for it after trying the sachets for nearly 2 weeks (!!) to no avail. Obviously a suppository isn't the most comfortable, especially as she's so sore 😢

We used Vaseline to protect the skin against further irritation and a bit of water on the suppository helped ease it in (worked within 20 mins).

Really hope she gets some relief soon, I remember the stress of it all and wondering how I got to a point in my life where I was praying for poo 🙃

thank you she is literally pooing brown diarrhea allday just bathed her 4 times straight while putting cream in the next lot was coming out her bum is this normal with thr laxido im.so worried

hi when you mentiomed you to give your little.one.a clear.out did that cause her to.have constantly runny diarrhea?.thank you

Yep almost clear water poo off the back of movicol is the only way to really clear the blockage and start from scratch I’m afraid. Also a suppository may be needed to reach that point. Good luck

We had this for years, DS2 was only free of it at age 9 when we got a referral to a brilliant specialist. Try Pico Liquid, it’s like liquid dynamite and will shift anything. With DS it started because he’d been unwell and hadn’t been for a few days when he was 2, when he did it hurt so the spiral started. Once it was easy he was fine. Movicol just didn’t work quick enough.