Back in the Zoo for new adventures with old friends

[CaptainNemo]

Come on over animals, I think we'll be very comfy here

CONGRATS on the birth of gorgeous William kat he is beautiful (saw FB pic)

I will be back later to chat but didn't wanna not post about our new member!!!

Kat yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ! At last I log on to good news - well done you ! Who cares how the wee man got out - he is safely in your arms now, that is all that matters. Congratulations missus !!!!

I am in a way better mood ladies. Bizarrely I noticed that between lunchtime and dinner time yesterday my mood was suddenly back to my usual positive self and I was feeling fine - and guess what, temp rose this morning - no confimred ov until 2 more high temps but I reckon my mood change has been due to hormones - and equally my low mood earlier this week was due to high estrogen pushing the egg out ! Anyway, CD19 (or 20 depending when you count day 1 from) which is when I used to ov so pretty much 'normal' for me other than the extended period of EWCM... no idea what is going on with that but we'll see what happens. Not getting hopes up and not reading any bleeds as 'implantation' this cycle - just going to assume all is not right so it won't happen so that I can limit my disappointment when AF arrives. Apologies for being a grump - I should have stayed away until I cheered up.

Kate did you get a sweep ?.... A double whammy baby bonanza !?

Murray did you get a high temp this morning?
Nemo are you swept? :)

Taking advantage of a night feed to post, things are going really well, W's blood test was good, he starts his antibiotics today and will ultrasound his kidney next week but hopefully they'll find normal function and he'll just be my healthy little boy :) He is an angel! Eats, well (milk came in tonight!) sleeps good long periods and is happy and alert during day, so far, so good.

Right; the birth...went in to have AF leak checked at 9pm wed, was having irregular, mild/moderate pains but admitted as induction was due to happen next morning. DH left hosp
At 1:30, I curled up in my private room then gush! Waters everywhere, contractions followed immediately! 1-2 min appart and thanks to no cushiony waters; excruciating!!! V diff to first labour, gas and air helped for 2 hours then I screamed for epidural!! Was 8cm by then so rushed to labour ward and epi given amidst my screams! Chilled for 3 hours, checked to be 10cm but tested for 2 more to help baby move from OP, he only made it to OT unfirtunatly but as his HR was happy I pushed for 1 1/2 hours in which time he descended a big fat 0!!! Epi stopped working on left side and by the time I was in theatre, both sides!!! Out it came in went spinal and an attempt at forceps, well not an attempt, as like his big sis his head never descended below 0 station ever! So c sec (as I'd predicted all along) and at 9:49 my whopping boy emerged at nearly 10lb with a 37 1/2 cm head!!!

I wouldn't change a thing though, I have confirmation now that it's a big head/narrow pelvis issue and I never felt that we were in danger, drs were there throughout. And thanks to spontaneous 'trial' labour our hormones helped us out, he's calm and ready to be here and my boobs are happy to nurture him! Smiles all around! Now need to get an early disharge as everyone else's baby in my room are keeping me awake whilst mine snores on!!!! Typical thanks for listening, next it's Nemo! Did I mention, I wouldn't change a thing!? Good luck, go with your instincts x

Wow! What a great post Kat! Am currently on my 3rd 2nd glass of wine, so you'll have to forgive me if this doesn't make a lot of sense... What's the story with the blood tests and the anti biotics? Maybe it's on fb and I've missed it, will go and check in a bit, but am so glad that, all in all, it went so well, and you now have your gorgeous baby safe and sound, congratulations!

Murray yippee for temp and mood shift, PMA worth a lot! Guess there's no point suggesting you take your foot off the gas, so I won't . You know what's best for you and yours, and as Kat says, all we can do is follow our instincts

Problem I'm having is that my instincts are thoroughly confused . I did have a sweep yesterday, in fact I was already 2cm dilated and the mw was v v optimistic that it was going to do the trick. However, so far... No dice. Plus I spoke to a friend today who was 2cm dilated for 2weeks with her second so am pretty fed up and v impatient... The thing is I'm not due til 12th, so part of me thinks I should really just leave the poor little bugger alone to come out when he's good and ready, but the other part thinks ELEVEN POUND BABY!!!!! Am seeing the mw again tomorrow for another sweep, but if that doesn't work maybe I should just leave him to it....? What does the collective wisdom of the thread think? Yesterday the mw said his head was v v low and that she could easily have broken my waters if she'd wanted to... So there it is. Thought I'd try a bit of reverse psychology, hence the wine instead of willing him out and assuming its not going to happen to see if I can call his bluff, and have sent DH out to get an Indian takeaway.... Tips? Suggestions? But please don't say a long walk, my right foot is so swollen that I can barely stand, my toes are so swollen that they won't bend! Is v v attractive

Love to all! Including our newest and littlest member

Typo Correction:
Thought I'd try a bit of reverse psychology, hence the wine, instead of willing him out AM assuming it's not going to happen, to see if I can call his bluff....

Wow Nemo that is pretty much where I was 2 weeks ago, 2cm very effaced and head vv low. He came exactly 2 weeks later a day before his due date of his own accord, what was lo's predicted weight at last scan? They were spit on with W! So I'd use that as a guide. Although apparently it is head circumference that really matters, where are you with that estimation? I'm sure I went naturally because I finally had a date in mind and let my body relax, I also had a few drinkies towards then end and started to chill once I had that induction date.
As for tests etc, W has a dilated kidney so need to ensure it functions properly now that he's working on his own. Common apparently :)

Wowsers ! It is baby central in here !

Kat so good to hear your birth story - you sound so happy and upbeat - well done you . I look forward to seeing some pics of wee W !

Nemo you next missus ! Chances are it will not be as long as 2 weeks so just hang on in there and enjoy your wine. Like Kat says, try to relax (ha ha easier said than done as I well know !) and let the wee man come when he is ready. My friend was told by MW after a sweep that she was "v confident that it would happen soon" - when she saw the same MW 2 days later (after baby had arrived) the MW admitted that my friend had been in labour at that point but she didn't want to get her hopes up ! Can't wait to hear your news - keep us updated not in suspense please !

Yes have had 3 high temps now - so am on 2ww. Am not getting hopes up - actually had a bright red wipe on 2dpo so am assuming that this was caused by crazy messed up hormones. Am off alcohol altogether now as read it can really aggravate hormonal imbalance - anything to help ! Anyway, feeling good about everything - I feel like it WILL happen at some point once I have forced these blimin' hormones into submission via my super-healthy lifestyle
Just had a dreadful moment where a friend's dad (who is Aussie and well know for being a tw@t) asked me when I'd be having another baby (what a DICK) - I was so taken aback as he knows what happened, that I just blurted out "who knows, maybe one day" to which he looked at my stomach and winked and said "soon...now ?..." what FUCKWIT !!!!!!!!!!!!! I was so upset that I just had to leave the party in a complete fluster (we were on our way out anyway as we had E with us) but what a nightmare !!!

Kat Congratulations gorgeous pics on fb hope you manage to get that early discharge! Wow he's a big 'un
Nemo Sorry we didn't get a meet up sorted bloody 3G signal Well what to do re labour, as we said by text you could be waiting quite a while. Glad you're letting your hair down and having a cheeky three one As for advice on what to do next I'm sorry I'm no help (labour less person) Ewan was nearly 4 weeks early so didn't have to make any choices but big believer in gut instinct
Murray I hope I didn't offend you with my post the other day? Just wanted you to ease up on yourself and was being a bit protective. Fantastic news that you're officially on the 2ww, we can symptom spot together ( zero here at the moment) What a dick that bloke was! Insensitive knob especially as he knows your history and what you've been through recently, no wonder you were upset. Khama will come back and bite him on the bum promise
Marbles How did S's appt go?
Moomin Hope you are having a lovely time away

Well got back from holidays today. Had a fantastic time. Ewan got to feed penguins and wallabies. Touch a snake and other wierd things it was brilliant. Off to north Wales tomorrow as dh is doing a triathlon to raise funds for our special baby care unit. Feel like I've spent the last month in a car as journey home was 9.5 hrs and we'll have another 3 hours tomorrow

Buddha at those ridiculous comments! And good luck for today and DHs triathlon! Wow i''m in awe.
....tbc

Oooh I just saw something on fb came to get details but must be too early?? Anyone know more?

Yes! Had a few texts this morning. Kate and baby boy doing really well after natural birth. She's hoping to move to MLU to get some rest.

Congrats Kat. He's a big beauty. Hope you're recovering well at home.

Me too!! Beautiful pics!! Can't wait to hear more!!!
moomin HELLO!! how are you getting on?
kat how's things with you? And that gorgeous boy?

I'm fine. Away at the moment in Bluestone. Really wet day today

Agree, fantastic photo's Nemo he's gorgeous

Well no birthday bfp for me AF arrived today 4 days early

But on a happier note dh finished his first ever triathlon today, the weather was bloody awful but despite this still did amazing times on all three events. I was so so proud of him and they have raised money for our local Special Baby Care Unit so it meant so much to us, as I have no doubt without their skills and help we wouldn't have Ewan with us today

Yiippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - congratulations Nemo !!! I flipping knew it - I have not been checking FB or MN over the weekend and just had a feeling this morning that I'd missed news.
Must check FB later for pics - how exciting !!!! Well done Nemo - I'm so glad you got the natural birth you wanted - you can stop worrying about "giant baby-birthing" now and get on with the job of enjoying your wee boy
I look forward to hearing your full birth story in a few days .

Buddha so sorry AF arrived - that is not great about AF being early again. I have plenty of top tips on lengthening your LP (just foods to eat - nothing invasive) if you're interested. Maybe not right now, but in a few weeks I'll post them and you can maybe try them out. I'm test driving them this week . Oh and I was not at all offended by your advice last week. My low mood was down to hormones not grieving in any way - If I had not accepted what had happened and grieved fully I would never have been able to visit my friend's baby (did I say that already last week ...?) Anyway - no offence taken !

Nothing at all symptom-wise from here - temps seem quite consistent which is a start. Also, I have made the ultimate sacrfice and given up alcohol (just for a few months to see if it helps) apparently a hormone imbalance can be massively aggravated by alcohol so I need to stop ignoring this and make a 100% effort to fix things properly. Feeling good but not optimistic about success this cycle.

Morning ladies

buddha sorry AF caught you good luck with this cycle

murray good news about your temps fingers crossed for you

Hope everyone else (and their gorgeous babies) are doing well

As for me I tested.... AF not due for a couple of days... BFP I know it doesn't mean a helluva lot coming from me but...I feel very excited so I am eagerly awaiting the next week to fly by and then getting on to the hospital to get the ball rolling

Right, I'll try again, think I was still in a drug haze when I attempted posting the other day! It makes no sense

murray at those comments, not helpful at all!

Buddha well done to DH re the Triathalon, so good to give back you must be so proud of him.

moomin thanks for the update, looks like Nemo did amazing! Can't wait to hear her story :) what a relief for her.

We're doing so well here I can't believe how much easier it is 2nd time around, W is an amazing little baby he is textbook and long may it continue! Last night he only fed at 2am and then stirred at 5:30am but was happy to be rocked back to sleep until 6:30am!! Which is when I emerges anyway! Little star. He's been awake today too! For a 1/2 hour at breakfast and just now for a full hour, he wore himself out with all the staring and kicking though and fell asleep on the boob minus the feed, too cute!

I keep reminding myself that this time last year I was so ill and had been told this moment might not happen, I'm glad I kept believing and trying, he is so worth it and we are complete. (tear) I suppose what I'm saying is 'keep the faith' :)

Kat I sent you a FB friend request as I just realised that is why I cannot see your baby pics !! Thank you soooo much for the reminder about why we put ourselves through this torture - am well and truly keeping the faith . Good boy sleeping so well at night and managing to stay awake during the day - very clever !!

Marbles OMG BFP - it is exciting and fingers crossed this time it will work. TIPS for keeping progesterone high are to eat foods high in Magnesium (leafy greens, avocado, banana), Flaxseed is great for lengthening LP (eat it ground on cereal/in porridge, in salads), Vit C also good for progesterone generation (grapes, kiwi, mango, potato, orange, grapefruit, tomatoes, citrus fruits, melon, strawberries, cherries, peas, spinach, asparagus). Finally and most importantly Pineapple is great to aid implantation due to bromeline (?) it contains. Get yourself off to the supermarket and stuff your trolley full and eat your way to a successful PG mrs. Sorry if I sound like a pushy nutcase, just trying to help in any way I can as I know what a tough time you've had and you deserve to have some luck xx

Just saw Nemo's baby photos - what an adorable wee poppet !!!!! Any word of a name ?

Marbles I've got everything crossed for you
Kat Glad to hear W is settling in well
Murray Thanks for tips will sit and take notes when heads in a better place

marbles excellent! Fantastic news heed that brilliant food advice and fingers crossed for you :)

Afternoon ladies - hope everyone has enjoyed their Jubilee Holiday . We avoided the TV coverage and headed to the National museum in Edinburgh to see the dinosaur fossils

Marbles how are you my dear - all still well ? Is AF due Thu ?... Fingers crossed the days keep ticking on by for you and she doesn't appear.

Nemo is doing well but unsure when she will make it onto here - BF is a bit problematic but I'm sure it will work itself out. Nemo if you are lurking - get help with the latch ASAP - I still wish I did as I had 4 months of painful feeding with E and I'm sure it was down to a dodgy latch. Unfortunately as he was a December baby, by the time I realised I needed help it was Xmas and NY so nobody available . Anyway, she sounds over the moon with her wee boy - birth way easier than with T and baby way smaller than predicted - all that worry for nothing !!!!

Nowt to report from here - had a small bleed last night but ignoring it as I had the same the last 2 cycles and it meant nothing. Am genuinely not getting hopes up atall and I actually am finding myself willing time to slow down to delay the inevitable AF as opposed to wishing the days away and being so excited about testing as I was sure it would be good news.

hi ladies :)
4 weeks today! AF due today at the earliest but no sign! i also vomited spectacularly at the warm smell of the clean washing in the tumble dryer

Marbles all sounds very promising one of the photos on fb has got nemo's ds's name on it