Back in the Zoo for new adventures with old friends

[CaptainNemo]

Come on over animals, I think we'll be very comfy here

Nemo Are you back home yet? Hope you weren't too stressed at being 45 mins away from a hospital Is monster baby still growing
Kat Still nothing? Like Nemo I can't believe that there is a two week wait for CS
Murray Thank you for the links, I've been doing some reading, loved the first w/site but the second one got a bit indepth for me although I have to say I loved the part that said chocolate can avert a miscarriage I've just joined new healthcare and I think accupuncture is covered in that, got the details today so will have a good read in bed and see if I can book a session. Failing that I know I can have an indian head massage which is something I always wanted to try and will reduce my stress too.

Due to OV in the next few days, starting to feel pressured already I hate all this ttc rubbish, maybe I should just steal a baby look out Kat and Nemo I might come for yours

I don't know where all my time goes. I'm sorry it's taken me so long to write.

Kat Any news? Hope things get moving for you soon. I had a similar thing happen with J. I didn't go into hospital and get examined but I had regular (non painful) contractions every five mins for ages. I think it's all working to getting baby into the right position. I was very high but he was born in forty mins once labour got going. You just need your waters to break and then you'll be off. Good luck!

Nemo How was your break? How many weeks and days now? I'm desperate to see a bump pic! Let me tell you about my friend. Her first DS (she was huge and they did a growth scan and said baby was only a 7lber) was delivered by emcs and weighed in at 10lb 8. Her second DS (they scanned her and said he was going to be an 11lber) was born by vbac and was less than 8lb. Stop letting them terrify you. Repeat to yourself I am going to be just fine. J weighed 7 ounces more than L and it was a much easier delivery. If you do go for a v-birth, I'd def consider having him in the birth pool. I'm convinced the water prevented damage. And you'll bond with him no matter what size he is. There's something very special about being the mum to a son.

Bhudda Deep breathe. There's no pressure. You've never had any trouble getting pg before so there's no reason to start worrying yet. Are you doing OV sticks? Temping? FF? Any charts to nose out? E okay? How's the sleep going? We're still very hit and miss.

Murray Hello beautiful lady. How are you doing? I'm so pleased you the visit to you friend and new baby went okay. It must have been very difficult for you. I'm sorry I haven't been around to support you more. I tend to lurk on phone but find it impossible to respond from app. You can always get me on FB though if you need to chat. I'd love to be at one of your sessions - I have this huge comedy sketch in my head of your strong scot accent and the acupuncturists(?) broken english. You're sounding super healthy. Good luck with the 'fun bit'.

Marbles Yey for new job. Sounds like you've been having a really tough time recently. Have you got a consultant who specialises in Lupus? Did they diagnose from bloods or by ultrasounds and xrays too? Don't be afraid to push for more support. Really hope the app with S goes well. Please keep us informed.

Have I missed anything else?

News here is that life is stupidly busy. I'm only working 3-5 days a week (rarely 5) but life with the kids, school run, menial household tasks, birthday parties, L's activities...... I have every other weekend to myself since the separation but I feel as though I'm getting everything ready for D's weekend with the kids and then catching up on the weekend (washing, ironing, shopping, cleaning, behaviour) for a week afterwards. I'm not moaning. It's great to have some time to myself - It's never happened before. I miss them like mad when I'm away but I'm finally making an effort to see friends and look after myself.

Everything with D is very amicable. He's still living her (in the loft). We do things with the kids and eat together frequently and we still goss. I don't know when we'll finalise things. Everything seems to be working as it is so far but I guess we can't stay married together. I'm hoping an inevitable divorce won't make everything turn sour.

J is a lunatic. L is very cheeky and doesn't stop talking. They adore each other and annoy each other equally. She usually gets the telling off (not easy being the eldest). I haven't said anything about the separation. She thinks we have alternate weekends to have a break and that D sleeps in the loft because he snores. She's doing really well at school though I do feel like I'm having to give her additional stuff at home to keep her challenged. Not sure we made the right decision sending her to a school with 60 kids in each year but I'm relieved I'm not having to pay out for school fees. I think we made the right decision there.

I'm likely to be working FT in September. Not looking forward to it but needs must. I'll start looking for a nursery place and CM for Joe in the next few weeks. I've left it a bit late.

Health wise, I'm waiting to see a rhumatologist. I'm not as fatigued and dizzy but still having lots of muscle/joint pain and twitching. It's annoying but I'm not as anxious about it as I was.

Huge post. Bet I just killed the thread....

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moomin what a thorough catch up! You are good. I've heard from a lot of people that they had a week or two of regular mild contractions before labour, and if it speeds things up I suppose I should be thankful.

marbles how lovely to enjoy your work! I loved teaching and there's something so rewarding (and rare) about loving work :)

Buddha stealing babies perhaps hang out in the ward at Epsom, I heard an ungrateful girl screaming that she'd rather die than continue in labour grrr Good luck this month.

murray enjoy the fun :)

Nemo yes not too big, probably 9.7 lb this week.

Well as you can see I'm still hanging in there, waddling like a duck as baby is now fully engaged and unfortunatly completely back t back which I rare according to midwife I saw last night??? had them check on baby again, hb good movements still which they've told me to keep a close eye on. Had 2 sweeps now, lost plug yesterday, painful contractions last night and a massivve burst of energy today, so who knows!!?

Got told I should have contacted diabetes clinic as had 4 high readings, I obviously didn't listen properly when they gave me the kit anyone know what I should be doing differently if I had gd??

Both of mine were totally back on back. L didn't turn but J did. Contractions are most likely pushing baby into right position and getting head down on cervix before kicking off. Don't be concerned if they want to leave you for a while before pushing when you are fully dliated. It'll mean less work for you.

Forgot to mention GD. They should have taken action sooner - it's annoying these things go unnoticed. There probably isn't a lot you can do now as delivery seems imminent.

Moomin how lovely to hear from you properly - what a sterling effort posting such a mammoth post ! In return for your comedy sketch about me and my acupuncturist I have a comedy image of D living in a tiny empty room in the attic and only being allowed out every other weekend ! Sorry, I know your situation is not funny but the image is there and I can't shake it... Great to hear your 2 gorgeous nippers are doing so well - clever L !!! You do well to live in the same house and conduct a civil relationship for the sake of the children - many people would struggle - I really admire that.

Kat what a nightmare for you - this really is dragging on. FWIW I also know several friends who had the 'on and off' contractions for up to a week then their baby appeared quite promptly once it all kicked off - one within 2 hours, the other took 4 but her waters didn't break - baby born in membranes ! Also, they both had water births . Equally I have heard of 3 women who had 2nd at home as it happened soooo quickly, so if you don't much fancy that be on high alert for things picking up pace.. all the best and I am sure we will hear tomorrow

Buddha don't feel the pressure, just feel the looove ! That's what I intend to do tonight . I have a fair bit if EWCM today but if like previous cycles then it will come and go for over a week before the egg finally graces me with its presence ! No harm in starting the fun though, I am ever hopeful that acupuncture and my super-ovulation diet will coax that pesky egg out earlier this cycle ! For info I am eating grapefruit every morning which is supposed to help with EWCM and oestrogen (a surge of which is required for ov), also flaxseeds which help avoid anovulatory cycles and EPO which also helps generate EWCM. Along with my fruit and veg stall meals I am the healthiest I've ever been - BRING IT ON !!!

Murray He has to go to work too

Cheers moomin good to know :) and I agree with Murray full of admiration I don't think I'd be so mature

buddha epo truly is amazing, and your diet sounds great!! I shall get back to healthy eating myself one day, I hear it's good for you :)

Just a quickie back later for catch up (Moomin about bloody time )

I found who number 3 of the 4 pregnant women at work is ( just call me super sleuth) she is still going outside for at least 6 fag breaks every day. Makes my blood boil I won't even have a diet coke coz of the caffeine but she's happily puffing away

Buddha not fair! I remember commenting rudely on a fb status whilst TTC as 'friend' was whining about missing booze. Perfectly understandable reaction to fag break pg colleague.

We thought things were kicking off (again) last night, contractions were every 5 min for 2 hours and 'take-your-breath-away' painful, wrapping around front and back. But woke at 2am to pee and were back to the 'tightenings' I've been feeling for a week and this morning felt a big 'gush' but was just very thin mucus (sorry ) is this normal? Everything is so different to labour with I.

Kat Sorry no help with labour I'm a too posh to push bird like Frazzle never experienced anything to do with labour apart from waters breaking
But it does sound as if things are getting ready for the big event.
Will post later with more personals

Consultant apt on fri was productive for first time!!!! I think having DH there makes a difference, they look at him, then me, then the notes from growth scans and finally get what I'm saying about size of baby! :) long story short; induction by arom booked for wed! They'd have done it on fri but head had disengaged so risk of cord prolapse so went for next available date; wed. That said I'm sat here wincing again so may not be needed :) hello to all, hope you U.K era are enjoying the sun!?

Not a proper post but just wanted to say I'm still here!

Kat glad your appointment went well, at least you now have a date when things should hopefully get moving, and I'm glad having DH with you helps. Weirdly it would probably have the opposite effect for me as my DH is quite slight, so who knows where these whopping babies come from in my case... How many weeks etc will you be on Wednesday? You must be pretty much term?

Buddha & about your work colleagues.... Some people just have no idea how lucky they are....but still smoking is OUTRAGEOUS. I remember seeing obviously pg women smoking outside the hospital when I went in for my erpc. Vile.

Murray hope all that healthy eating has given you lots of energy, sounds like you need it!!

Moomin SO good to see you back here! It sounds like you're doing as well as you can be in the circumstances, but blimey it sounds tough.... Big respect to you lady xx

Totally paranoid about going into labour tonight as DH would almost certainly miss the birth if I do, he's sailing for the weekend (), he went yesterday, back tomorrow. Imagine my delight....

Nemo still here? Hope you didn't go into labour alone!? I had that fear on the 18th as DH was absent then. I'll be 39+6 on wed so yeah pretty much baked :)

Sorry I didn't get back for my catch up. Off on holiday today, Isle of Wight here we come Officially on 2ww but decided I'm not going to be all anal careful about what I eat or drink as I normally am coz af will arrive and then I'll be gutted I didn't enjoy my holiday
Nemo Still in one piece? Did you sort the doula after?
Kat Looks like your little one is going to tease you about their arrival for a while yet
Moomin Lovely to "see" you. I too admire your domestic set up, brilliant that it's working for you, long may it last (or until you want it to end)

Hope everyone else is ok? Enjoying the sunshine

happy sunday ladies

kat and nemo ooooooo not long left now!!

buddha have a lovely time in the Isle of Wight i say eat what you want and tempt fate im doing exactly that this cycle!

hope everyone else is doing well

Hope everyone has had a lovely weekend. mine has been very nice its my 30th birthday tomorrow so we have had alot of family visiting and went out for a lovely meal last night with our parents (DH, DD and I). DH surprised me by ringing in advance and arranging for an icecream sundae topped with candles to be brought out to me with the lights off and spotlight on me and all the staff and my family all singing happy birthday to me it was lovely!!

Hello ladies - so much chat, love it !

nemo hope your wee boy stayed put over the weekend

Kat good news about induction date but this really has been a veeery drawn out process for you - hope it goes VERY quickly when it does happen, you deserve not to have to wait any longer.

Marbles happy birthday to you and good luck with DD's appt tmrw. That is so sweet of you DH organising a wee surprise like that for you . Hope you are spoiled rotten tomorrow xx

Buddha enjoy your holiday and you are quite right to relax and not act 'as if' PG on your 2ww - more likely to get lucky if you are relaxed . Pop back after your hols and let us know your symptoms.

well as predicted I am still waiting for the egg to arrive despite EWCM starting on CD11/12 - as per previous cycles it has been patchy which is driving me insane. I get loads then get mild cramps and it dries up so I expect to see temp rise but NOTHING, then it all starts over again. I am (yet again) convinced it has happened today but no doubt tomorrow will be another disappointment and temp will remain low - arrghhh ! I actually find this part of my cycle the most frustrating and am constantly looking for signs, getting hopes up then they are dashed grrr.... Anyway on CD17 so hopefully soon

Happy 30th birthday Marbles have a fantastic time celebrating

Murray what are your eggs playing at?? they keep messing with your head it's just not on! Hope it arrives today. We went for quality not quantity this month as our technique last month didn't work Waited for +ve on ov sticks before going for it

Buddha hope you're having a good hol!?
Marbles happy birthday!!!
Murray hope today's the day, it sounds frustrating I hated the waiting to ov, I never ever got +opk so constantly thought 'today's the day' good luck, fingers crossed.

Only 2 more sleeps!!! Crapping myself to be fair but I am a worrier

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARBLES - Hope you are having a tip top day and DD's appt went well.

Kat are you STILL here !? What is this baby up to ? Every time I log in I am sure there will be news, but nothing ! Not long now though - good luck xx

Buddha like your style going for quality not quantity ! I would love to do the same but have to DTD from CD11 when EWCM starts just in case, then every other night until my egg finally arrives - it can end up making sex a bit of a chore which is not good

As predicted my blimin' egg is still AWOL - soooo annoying and soooo disappointing. Had a bit of a wobble today - ended up in tears in car on my way home from work - no particular reason, just frustrated and fed up with wonky hormones . Today's EWCM seems to have dried up but then that has happened almost every day for the past 9 days so am not reading much into that. I am soooooooooooooooooooo bored of waiting, but also due to erratic temps and ridiculous EWCM I just know deep down that things are still far from 'normal' so there is very little chance of getting PG. Struggling to keep my chin up. I really want to talk to someone who will take my concerns seriously but anyone within NHS system will just poo poo my EWCM chat as tell me to go away and be patient. I haven't broached the subject of EWCM with acupuncturist - not sure I could face it - what if he didn't understand, how do you explain that !!!! Anyway, will pop back soon when I am in a more chipper mood and hopefully there will be baby news to cheer me up - come on Kat !!!

murray Can't imagine trying to explain ewcm to someone who wasn't aware of it, could be embarrassing, but maybe try checking on a medical website for how it's described there then you'll sound all medical rather than 'mumsnety' ?? :)

I'm currently trying to decide if my waters are leaking woke up damp and had a few obvious little gushes after bh/baby moving but I'm so blinking hot I'm afraid I'm just sweating!!? Eeew I know!

Murray have a very unmumsnet hug. Why do you think you'll get laughed at by nhs about ewcm? Has it happened before? I think your worries over ov are perfectly normal and you have charts to show that things are different to before. Do you think you still need time to grieve for last pregnancy and your body is trying to do that? Or is that a crock of sh*t I just think you are trying so hard and you know what happens when we put ourselves under so much pressure - naff all needs to take own advice I wish that I could magic up a perfect cycle for you
Kat damp or leaking?

Just popping in to say good luck to Kat for today! Hope the hospital don't keep you waiting for too long, and that breaking your waters leads to the birth you want! There's a vague possibility I might get a sweep today, so maybe I'll race you ;-)

Buddha hope you're having a lovely holiday! How long are you there for? Think you're near Sandown? Was thinking if you have time (and I'm not in labour, and the weather holds...) I could bring DD over and meet you on the beach in Ryde? No prob if not, was just a thought

Murray can see the language (and possibly the gender) barrier might make it tricky to talk to your acupuncturist about EWCM.... I know it's not what you want to hear but do you think there might be something in what Buddha was saying in her last post to you.....? It seems to me you're putting yourself under an awful lot of pressure, though I know that's easy for me to say. Feel free to tell me to bugger off

Marbles hope you had a FAB birthday!! Welcome to the 30s club How did DD's appointment go? Have been thinking of you.

As for me, am off to gp later to talk to her about my massively swollen and painful foot. Have been being nagged by my mother to go for a while, but figured they'll just say it's hot, you're 38 weeks pregnant, congratulations you're fat and uncomfortable! But saw my gp friend who said I should get it checked in case it's a DVT!! . Excellent. Just what I needed. Something else to worry about Will keep you posted if I manage to con convince someone to give me a sweep over the next couple of days..... Wish me luck!

Baby William arrived at 9:49am 9lb 12 1/2oz. Spontaneous labour but EMCS again. I gave it my best :)