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[CaptainNemo]

Come on over animals, I think we'll be very comfy here

hi everyone

hope all is well

murray glad you had a good holiday and your egg appears to have arrived also im glad you have passed your EDD too

buddha sorry about your friend and that AF arrived where are you in your cycle? hope you are doing well

hi to everyone else

im on CD15/16 i think and still taking Agnus Castus and BDing we will see though as we are shelving the TTC (again) as it seems DD may have epilepsy she has been having odd episodes where she totally zones out and cant be roused for about 5-10 seconds...i thought she was just ignoring us and noone else had noticed...she kind of stops still, her eyes direct upwards and she blinks alot, and she also smacks her lips like shes eating and it lasted about 5-10 seconds to start with but more recently its happening about twice an hour on average and lasting closer to 15 seconds. its like she isnt there for 15 seconds then she goes back to normal...im freaking out quietly and have poken to the GP who agrees and has referred her to Neuro Paediatrics...

nemo I was in 3 days after CSection, in bed for 1 week, first trip out 3 weeks later, felt pretty normal by 6 weeks and well glued after 4 months (back to yoga).

murray welcome back :)

buddha your friend has a mean dr! Who coud enjoy a honemoon with that hanging over them :(

murray fingers crossed they'll be lots of symptoms to check :) my levels have been pretty normal, more low than high so I'm not worried about that anymore.

marbles that sounds scary! I hope you get an apt soon to check it out, it does sound like what a girl I taught used to do. She was so cool about it all and is now thriving at uni, all independent, but then she was a teenager when she was diagnosed so easier to deal with I imagine. I hope things work out, keep us informed.

I had another scan today (36weeks) baby is 7lb 15!!!! So I'm thinking elective at 39 weeks def on the cards if I can't shift the little elephant before. I am drinking rasberry leaf tea and reading up on epo orally and internally, anyone got any advice for bringing on labour? What about this black and or blue cohosh stuff??? Help much appreciated :)

Marbles oh no poor S, that sounds so, so scary. You must be so worried . How does S feel about the episode afterwards ? Is she aware ? You seem to be having quite a run of bad luck, I have no helpful advice, just big big hugs xx

Kat oh dear that is a large baby.. fingers crossed for an early arrival. I know you may not much fancy it but sex is supposed to work due to the jigginess stimulating the uterus and also the sperm apparently help to ripen the cervix... worth a try if you really want to shift the wee blighter . I will channel some contraction vibes your way

News from here is that I had a lovely high temp today so am officially on the 2ww - symptoms on either 2/4 dpo (not sure due to boozy hen night) are very slightly sore boobs every so often and mild (but definite) cramps on and off. I know that both of these are caused by hormones and just because the egg is fertilised does not guarantee success so I will just have to wait.... arrgghhh not great when you are this impatient. Having said that, my mood is soooooo good during the 2ww as there is hope and I am so delighted to have finally ov'd - the trouble is when AF arrives I have a long way to fall, but I'm remaining positive

Marbles Another worry to add to your load Poor S although I dont suppose she's aware of what's happening. I hope you get your referral soon. I used to work with a girl who had epilepsy and as well as the zoning out another sign that a fit was on its way was she would get v aggressive and sarcastic. We worked at a hotel and she was breakfast waitress do when a man complained about his eggs she got right in his face and said "I only laid the table not the fucking eggs" she did have about that later when we told her I can understand why you've put ttc on hold for the time being. Let's hope it's not for too long
Murray Woo hoo hurray for ov ! I've everything crossed for you. You sound do organised with your military ttc more do than me! I've not done opk's this month just decided to swi from day 11 onwards this is our last cycle before my birthday so no pressure
Nemo Come back and let us know how your getting on

Forgot to say my friend got a scan at the hospital day before going to on honeymoon and they found a hb so pleased for her, at least she can have a good time away relaxing.

murray Sex with spd...ouch :( but you're right it's what everyone says

Kat Sorry I missed you how about lots of pineapple? The blue/black cohash can have some nasty side effects to you and/or baby might be best to avoid that one. Acupuncture is another one? Less painful than spd sex

buddha dont sweat it :) good news about your friend! I had a lot of early scans this time after scares, it's the only thing that calmed my mind. Do you think pineapple juice (not from concentrate) might work? I heard you need to eat 7 pineapples to make a difference??!

Not feeling great today, nausea and many trips to the loo maybe baby will make an appearance!!? That would be fine I'm sure I'm 36+2 but 37 weeks by ov date!

Ooh Kat that DOES sound as if baby is ready to make an appearance - bang on time if 37 weeks by your dates - fingers crossed and good luck !

All good here - acpuncturist said hormone levels look good and gave me permission to "try for pregnant" next cycle... hmmm ! I have to admit that I was trying and he did not seem very impressed ! I made it clear at the outset that I was trying after my 1st cycle was over but clearly he missed that ! Anyway, have had spotting yesterday and today so feeling positive . If only my LP is long enough this cycle....

murray I took 50miu of B6 to lengthen my lp and that was the cycle I fell pg, have you read about it?

I'm still here, popped 1000mg epo in both ends last night and had s teeny bit if ewcm like stuff in morning, hoping it might be a big of my plug managed an awkward attempt at a bit of how's your father this eve and feeling cramps....fingers crossed I can bring this baby on naturally in the next 2 weeks, need to flip it though as its posterior as was I :( any tips?

Thanks for the tip Kat - I am on it. I am already taking B100 (which contains a high dose of all B vits) and D3 and VitC with added zinc. Pre-ov I also take Vit E and EPO so I am rattling. Been taking these for about 5 months so hopefully they will do the trick this month and keep LP long enough... fingers crossed
I am beyond impressed with you DTD at this stage and with SPD - a real trooper ! I hope your effort is not in vain and the baby makes an arrival soon - good luck xx

Kat... is baby on the way ?...

Nemo where are you mrs ? How are you feeling about your appt tomorrow ? Hope all goes well. Please pop in and update us xx

Still here! Lots of twinges and lost some jelly bits which I'm hoping are bits of a show

Hello all, sorry for not posting for so long. I managed half a post when DH took DD out on sat aft but then fell asleep before posting it I looked at it again later and it was pretty dull so I didn't bother sending it!

Glad to hear everyone's surviving, Murray & Buddha I'm keeping everything crossed for your 2ww's, when is D Day for you both?
Marbles any more news on DD? What a year you've had
Kat good luck with the eviction Think I'll srart something similar from 38 weeks, am a bit worried about baby having breathing problems before that, wet lung etc. Have been reading up on the NICE guidelines on the advice of a retired gp I know & it seems both 38 and then 39 weeks are v significant in terms of lung development. When do they want to section you if no appearance?

So news from here is that consultant's appt was yesterday. Found the whole thing quite emotional to be honest.... Advice is no section but he's put in my notes that I need the most experienced midwife and to be offered an early epidural, though that assumes we get there in time... He would do a section at around 39 weeks if I decide I want one, but it would be based on psychological reasons rather than physical. Feeling quite emotional about the whole thing, think he was going to say basically no need for a section at all til I started crying then he changed his mind. Have told him if it turns out to be a 12lb baby I'm going to find out where he lives and J is going to fire bomb his house....
Think J thinks we should follow the consultant's advice, he was pretty definite that he reckons a v birth would be better for me, reckons there's not much in it for the baby. Feeling a bit of pressure from friends and family, know they only want what's best for me, but literally everyone I've spoken to since the appt apart from my gp friend (who has said cons advice sounds sensible) has said HAVE A SECTION!!!!!
Am going to speak to the cons again at some point, he said he thinks baby will be big but not off the chart, (wouldn't give me an estimated weight) and I would like to know why he thinks not off the chart. I said I was thinking 10lb ish and he didn't contradict me....
It's really tough to know what to do for the best but deep down I don't really feel a section is the way to go, so will just have to hope I'm right and that the f-ing anaesthetist is available when I need him!! Will be BLOODY proud of myself if i manage to get this baby out naturally without ripping myself to shreds!! xx

hi ladies

kat hopefully the jelly is a show and you can get on with evicting the baby

nemo glad alls well with you i reckon going with your gut is the best way to go. if you feel like a V birth is better suited forhow you feel...go for it. equally the option is available for a section at 39 weeks and we will be here to hash out the pros and cons with you if you need a sounding board...how long is left now for you?

hello to all the other ladies

i finally had my appointment for my shoulder pain...possibly surgical but need to see a consultant and have physio first. also tendonitis and lupus related so i should be gettin g somewhere to have it fixed soon

DD has her referral to neuro paeds on my birthday! it was on 15th june but i didnt feel it was very good to have to wait 5 weeks so asked for an earier appt and the earliest was 28th may...happy 30th to me but it was either that or the 13th june and DD comes first (obviously) so my birthday it is then she has had a few more episodes, one big one in the bath and another in the middle of the road so it needs investigating... she fell down the stairs about 2 weeks ago too and it has made me think maybe that is what caused it as if she was stepping down the step and went absent...she may have missed the step without knowing as she rolled down the stairs and had no idea how it happened. its weird seeing it happen.

in other news i start a new job on monday! its a well paid HR job...the woman liked my Cv and phone conversations with me so much she offered me the job without a formal interview... i have left my shitty job in preparation for the good one on monday!! so excited!
AF is due at the weekend and i am symptom spotting like mad

Nemo well done for making yourself heard :)

I'm yet to discuss c sec with consultant and have recently heard of some women meeting residence at Epsom even with a breech baby!!! So I have no idea how my apt on the 18th will go :( wish DH could be there, he's missed all of the appointments with this pg owing to most being in the dreaded exam/coursework period at school! Not good at fighting my corner, any volunteers to come with me?

marbles better to have that early apt for dd definitely, it would be good to speak to an expert and feel like things are being looked in to. Congrats on the job!!

Reflexologist due over in 5 min, wish I hadn't had that bag of chips bleaugh!!! My sis let rip once during an apt; apparently not uncommon

Evening ladies !

Kat good luck with reflexology, hope it works for you.I had it the night before I was due to be induced and I did start cramping through the night but then it all stopped - but it may have kicked things off if they'd left me in peace instead of inducing me... fingers crossed for you xx

Nemo sounds like in your heart of hearts you know that v-birth is best for you. you sound happier with this outcome and less stressed out than when you thought you were heading down the section route. I have to say that if it does come down to a section in the end it is not a 'bad' option - it is just not as 'ideal' as a v-birth. Ultimately your wee boy has to get out somehow and as long as he is safe that is the main thing. Hugs xx

marbles well done on your new job mrs - let us know how you get on . Good on you getting an earlier appt for S - poor wee button, can't believe she had an episode on the road and possible fell down stairs due to a fit - the sooner she gets treated the better. So, come on, share your symptoms !

Well not good news from me - despite a 3 day implantation bleed between 7-10 dpo and really sore boobs the last 2 days AF arrived early this afternoon - gutted . Today is 11dpo - I usually have a LP of 13 days so MC has well and truly messed up my body. I'm going to try another cycle with acupuncture alone and if the same happens again I am going to look in natural progesterone cream to help lengthen LP. Am really fed up about the whole thing, it is moments like these that I get really frustrated that the cord got tangled and my wee boy died, if that had not have happened I'd have a newborn baby now and would not be going through this torture . Also, I am going to visit my friend who was due at the same time as me with her wee boy next week - I have to admit that I felt fine about going safe in the knowledge that I'd be PG and have good news to share, not looking forward to the visit at all now. However, onwards and upwards - I have a night out this Sat and next Sat so at least I can get p!ssed .

murray looks like we are cycle buddies AF arrived this afternoon for me too ah well I'm Agnus castus popping from Saturday and I'm going to BD with abandon this cycle...

Murray Sorry af arrived like you I thought it sounded hopeful. I thought min of 10 dpo was ok for lp? Anything less was a worry? Mine is normally only 10 perhaps I should be doing something about it? good luck visiting your friend and her newborn it's gonna be hard there's no denying that but maybe the thought will be worse than the actual doing ifyswim. I'm sure it won't be long before you can share good news with her
Marbles I thought ttc was on hold sorry af got you too but sounds like you have a plan for next month
Kat Any news?
Nemo only you can decide what to do my lovely and as I said before you put your foot down for whatever you want. I'm sure you'd have no problems being assertive

Well af is due Wednesday but had spotting this afternoon ffs that's a very short lp not sure what's going on with my crap old body!

hi buddha

sorry about the spotting but if Af isnt due until wed...implantation spotting maybe? jus' sayin' TTC is on hold but we are not preventing anything IYSWIM

hope all is well

Buddha if I were you I'd be hyper at the thought of imp spotting as it sounds far more likely thsn mega-short LP . I have had imp spotting with both PGs (and last 2 cycles when I'm convinced I confirmed but shitty hormones messed it all up). I am truly crossing everything for you mrs :-)

Am going to quiz acpuncturists tmrw about what he can do to sort this nonsense out, could be interesting with language barrier issue ! Also decided to take decisive action and make GP appt on the hope they test progesterone levels but can't get one for love nor money grrr.... Have to call first thing on mon for a chance of appt in 2 weeks, just as well it is not urgent !!!

Sorry to disappoint ladies but it's af early I'm really p'd off this time after swi from day 11 to 19 thought we'd catch it but it does mean one more cycle before my birthday in fact af due on my birthday now!! So I'm either going to be one very happy 40 year old or moody as shit god help dh

sorry AF arrived buddha looks as if the three of us will be testing all at the same time though! every cloud eh!?

Yey I've never had two cycle buddies before!