MLM Bot Watch 67: Is it all slowly imploding?

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She’s put the disclaimer in with the heading “Integrity” like it’s her own personal integrity that means she’s posted it rather than it being a legal requirement.

And then she undermines the message by saying it’s hard work that gets you the results. Implying those that fail are at fault
when really it’s a rigged system and the majority lose money because that’s how the system is designed.

Is Jesper Nielsen an MLM? It sells jewellery similar to Pandora. It's run by an ex-Pandora CEO. If you google the name, it says previous businesses folded or something similar. It recruits "ambassadors", you shop through their links online. If you click to become an ambassador, it asks for the ID of referring member and won't show you the setup of costs and earnings. I think it asks for a one-off registration fee, without monthly fees. Friend has started doing it, looks slighly suss. She isn't being pushy at all, that's why I didn't suspect, but is saying some of the same things like it's a great bargain, great for presents, very cheap and so on.

Sounds exactly like an MLM. The referral ID is the smoking gun.

I used the ID of my friend's link on the Become an Ambassador link, it has two options to join, first one is very MLM like. It doesn't give any information about the earnings until you join, that's suspect too.

License Package - £307.50
Jewellery worth approximately £400, to wear and to present online and at ladies nights - Presentation material for jewellery - Personal training in party planning - Personal training in jewellery sales - Jesper Nielsen webinars - Own personalized webshop to sell Jesper Nielsen jewellery online

Junior License package - £0.00
Free Access Junior Ambassador “Free Access” gives you access to your own personalized webshop, so you can start to buy og sell Jesper Nielsen Jewellery. As soon as you have made your first buy or sold a product, then you will automatically upgrade to Junior Ambassador

I don't think it's as bad as some of the others as looks like no money up front? But probably gets you to buy lots for yourself before you realise that you aren't actually making any money from it. It sounds like a way to get customer loyalty and encourage them to buy by stealth. I don't think I can say anything to my friend without offending her! She loves Pandora and I think she sees it as a way to get cheap Pandora style jewellery.

Fairly certain it is an MLM. Also very hard to establish if he was actually CEO of Pandora. The only time google turns that up is in links to his own book. As far as I can tell he collaborated with Pandora to co-found Pandora CWE (the company that distributed Pandora jewellery in Germany). He then seems to have founded another company that was found (in a court case) to have misused Pandora's trademark.

It sounds like a way to get the ambassadors to buy lots of jewellery. I think it is an MLM, not quite as overt as Tropic etc. I can't find much information either.

Nurse is back to sharing videos of her poor son asleep and dimly lit demos of applying eye cream

I do t know why Yawn’s incredible social media training isn’t having more of an impact on her

Ubers C9 winner methinks it will end up on fb marketplace. Join the Q love.
Yawn has apparently worked her ass off. Must have blinked and missed that.
I think it’s very unsavoury to peddle this stuff when so many are reliant on food banks.

@Spongebobette

Nurse is back to sharing videos of her poor son asleep and dimly lit demos of applying eye cream

I do t know why Yawn’s incredible social media training isn’t having more of an impact on her

But brown nosing Castle again with the frozen wine glass. Yawn must be seething.

Yawn had a sly dig at castle the other day on Insta saying you'd never catch her up at 4:30am to run her business

Shall we start a sweepstake on what's happened to Wig 'n Sleaze?
Was it a ban for both of them for being "truthers"?
Perhaps they've caught that "mystery virus" from Coco.
Or has the electricity meter run out in their posh London bedsit?

Ooh I love a bit of Yawn vs Castle tension

VIRTUAL VILLAGE v ISLAND-GATE !!!

I wonder why Yawn and Castle can't stand each other? Anyone know the beef?

@fitgirl26

Shall we start a sweepstake on what's happened to Wig 'n Sleaze? Was it a ban for both of them for being "truthers"? Perhaps they've caught that "mystery virus" from Coco. Or has the electricity meter run out in their posh London bedsit?

Right now it’s fashionable for vocal anti-Vaxxers to go quiet for a week or so because they’ve got [a bug, Syphilis, a summer cold, Gout - insert anything but Covid because that doesn’t exist]. So my money is on them quietly suffering in their Knightsbridge broom cupboard where they will have to remain for quite a while because they have wisely avoided Chris Whitty and his giant needle, unlike “the sheep”.

When I say “Knightsbridge” I of course mean Thornton Heath or East Ham.

I hope they are suffering the consequences of spreading dangerous lies and putting people at risk

Just back from Afternoon tea via grouponJust thought I would relax and catch up.
I suppose Wig & Sleaze are doing the private messaging route to avoid detection. Not very businesslike.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the anti-vax crew are secretly getting vaccinated, but still continuing to persuade others not to. Perfect cover for them not catching it.

The Wig and Sleaze update we've all been waiting for

I managed to get Covid after one night out despite being fully vaxxed and I felt like absolute shit for almost 2 weeks. What it’s like without being vaxxed and not being particularly healthy like Wig or Sleaze doesn’t bear thinking about.

Oh dear. What a shame. Nevermind.

Well well well

@SSDGM so glad you've recovered, that sounds horrible

Well surprise surprise @ticktock19! Junior Wig says that it’s down to the vaccinated shedding all over those two brave soldiers. Just asked DH to explain the science behind “shedding” and he looked mystified which just shows he wasted years at medical school. Never mind, I’m sure there’s a Doterra oil or a vegetable dust capsule that will sort it. I know Sleaze’s son had a heart condition but I think someone said Sleaze did too? If so it’s really very risky for him.

@FranceTeam yes, I bet that’s what is happening. The whole MLM anti vax/Covid denial rhetoric is just a distraction technique and a way of keeping people on message and feeling they’re in the know and not “a sheep with a J.O.B” (or in the case of Sleaze, his stance is just an ego trip). I doubt it reflects any real belief when it comes down to looking after number one.

Hate to say it but, good.