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MLM Bot Watch 54: The never-ending Saga

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Jasmin82 · 07/10/2019 22:05

Continuing from the last thread
Link to previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/3677066-MLM-Bot-Watch-53-The-saga-continues?pg=1

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Norma27 · 10/10/2019 18:31

Canoe I totally agree. I’ve known adults and children die from and survive cancer. All wanted to beat it. Some lasted 3 months and some alive years later.
One friend has had both breasts and all her female bits removed.
None of them deserve to live more than any other. Some were ‘luckier’ than others.
Nurse’s post was vile and I hope we made her see that.

Norma27 · 10/10/2019 18:31

And canoe I wish you all the best in your recovery and hope you remain cancer free x

Whiterangey · 10/10/2019 19:39

Have I been pissing people off again?

What did I miss? Something to do with cancer i'm guessing?

Was it the no conclusive evidence of aluminium causing breast cancer so stop shilling deodorant on the basis you are saving people from breast cancer?

Whiterangey · 10/10/2019 20:03

Why is it always me? I say nothing worse than anyone else, yet it's always me they focus on. I don't mind, i just think it's funny.

Why don't they come here and talk things out like people should? These threads are a lot of things, but they are most definitely not an echo chamber. Bots have participated in some interesting conversations here before. We don't have the luxury of taking the conversation to them, you post something which isn't what they want to hear, and they block you.

Someone mentioned the cancer group I was a member of? Yeah, that was linked from another group i'm a member of. I've reported the cancer group, as have many others as it goes against facebook's t&c's for it views. Most notably it's stance on vaccines, anti-vaccine due to them causing cancer, along with wifi, 5g, etc etc. Her own sister would not be welcome in that group due to undergoing surgery and having chemotherapy.

If Castle's views on the causes and cure of cancer go along with that kind of narrative, there really is no arguing with that.

acatcalledjohn · 10/10/2019 20:16

Bloody hell @CanoeDoYouThinkYouAre, that is quite an experience. It must be odd to think that someone else died from exactly the same disease as you. Hope you will remain cancer free.

@Whiterangey They're fascination with you borders on targeted bullying. They are the true experts when it comes to bullying. We just highlight their lies, but I think they may have picked you for your perceived weaknesses (such as ED history). Like they do with all their victims.

True bullies. Horribly people.

acatcalledjohn · 10/10/2019 20:18

*their.

I really need to stop changing sentences after I've written them.

fromdownwest · 10/10/2019 20:23

Any screen shots of her behaviour>?

spanfan · 10/10/2019 20:28

Gutted i missed castles rant. 😂😂

spanfan · 10/10/2019 20:30

You hit a nerve rangey. You talk wonderful sense and don't pull any punches.

We love you for it.

They are intimidated by you. I'm sure of it.

CanoeDoYouThinkYouAre · 10/10/2019 20:36

Thank you for the kind thoughts, things are as positive as they can be and I know how lucky I am.

Whiterangey · 10/10/2019 20:49

That is absolutely fine with me if they want to target me, no problems with that whatsoever. I am being sincere in that, I really don't care and find it funny.

I honestly don't mind being the focus of their hate and anger, the anti-mlm movement is mostly responsible for the fact they are their seeing their incomes drop substantially. That's not down to me, can't take the credit for that, amazing women have worked so very hard on anti-mlm stuff to get to the point we are at. If people want to hate on me while the important people do their thing then there is nothing not to like about that.

An ED is not a sign of weakness, recovery from an ED is not a sign of strength, it is what it is. I've been eating well for many months, my BMI is healthy, as am I. I will continue to speak out against the bullshit 'magic' diet bullshit.

Booksandwine80 · 10/10/2019 20:57

@Jasmin82

Following this thread as I have some of the others. Can anyone PM me as to who is who please? I know castles but not the others Blush

Ref0rmedB0t1 · 10/10/2019 22:13

After the AMA and now this, you'd be forgiven for thinking the bots are heavily invested in these threads too...

Strange how they give it so much headspace considering how negative Hmm we are.

acatcalledjohn · 10/10/2019 22:49

An ED is not a sign of weakness, recovery from an ED is not a sign of strength, it is what it is.

I fully agree. Bots zone in on these things though.

fromdownwest · 10/10/2019 23:53

Any screen shots?

Gotmychocolateimgood · 11/10/2019 05:20

Whiterangey we've got your back. Bots are panicking and redirecting their panic to anyone who calls bullshit on their pathetic attempts to claw it back.

YouokHun · 11/10/2019 08:57

@Mielabel I agree with your post. I’m a CBT Therapist and when working in IAPT have had quite a few MLM sign ups as clients in either a group setting or one to one. It’s really really hard for those people to back away from “if I want it enough it will come to me”. They often got referred to a depression group I ran and expected it to be Life coaching and ego boosting and all about positive thinking as an antidote to emotional difficulties. I find myself explaining that both positive and negative thinking can be irrational. They have to rebuild their notion of what Living an authentic life is, even if that life looks boring and lacking in glitter and ‘positivity’. It’s really hard.

MLMsuperfan · 11/10/2019 12:59

Thing is a little positive thinking can work wonders, if someone has developed low self confidence to the extent that they're not attempting things that are in fact within their grasp.

But it's like a little salt on your meal; it boosts the flavour, but you need the meal in the first place (positive thinking doesn't magic things into existence) and too much is disgusting (see MLM conferences).

Norma27 · 11/10/2019 13:47

Uber reckons she bought her current house 7 years ago to be next to her mum and sis. I'm sure she was talking about buying it within the last 3/4 years. Am I going mad?!

Whiterangey · 11/10/2019 13:53

It's positive thinking with guilt. I was thinking positive on Tuesday when I bought my ticket for the Euromillions. I'd already worked out who was having how much when I won, not a matter of if I won, that money was mine.

Shockingly I didn't win. It did not work out for me. MLM positive thinking would then mean I should take the blame for not winning, that my mindset wasn't right, that I didn't want it bad enough so that is why I didn't win.

That's what they do, if things don't work out despite you thinking positively, it's your fault. It is a lot like the lottery, except more expensive.

acatcalledjohn · 11/10/2019 15:55

that money was mine.

No it wasn't, it was mine. I had done the same as you but I deserve it more. Because I'm a greedy & entitled bitch. Your mindset just isn't right for this game.

^
Is how the likes of yawn and castle and uber talk to their downlines.

BSintolerant · 11/10/2019 16:19

@CanoeDoYouThinkYouAre Bless you: I hope that shit disease leaves you well alone.

@Whiterangey if Castle’s been ranting and raving about something you’ve said, it’s only because you, eloquently, always tell it as it is and you’ve hit a nerve. Well done you. At some level Castle and the others know they’re fucked, and the cognitive dissonance they’re experiencing must be very uncomfortable. It’s no wonder so many of them suffer from depression, anxiety, and online tantrums ... which disappear.

As for all this Law of Attraction nonsense and the pressure to be positive all the damned time, books such as The Secret say that people who have suffered horrible things in their lives like shit diseases, dying in plane crashes, natural disasters or unexpected audits from HMRC only have themselves to blame. If bots are convinced that they’re the authors of their own misfortune they must be tying themselves in knots trying to avoid thoughts or situations which have the vaguest whiff of negativity.

Someone needs to tell them that a certain degree of negativity, sensible pessimism, or plain realism could save their lives. As Spike Milligan said, “No, flying's not dangerous. Crashing's dangerous!"

Mielabel · 11/10/2019 20:26

Rasher is saying some interesting things about her previous MLM on the comments of her latest thread.

BSintolerant · 11/10/2019 22:03

Rasher is threatening to post an audio conversation. I’m all ears.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 12/10/2019 09:04

Rasher needs to get in contact with one of the journalists that regularly ask for (ex)bots to step forward.

Bullying, debt, poaching, illegal ingredients in products, lack of morals and ethics, brainwashed cult, mental breakdowns.....sounds like she's got a lot to say.